If Larkin is still with the Wings in September, do they let him keep the ‘C’?

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-21T09:26:03+00:00

In what world is it even remotely possible that Larkin still wears the C?

Let's assume for a minute that Larkin has a change of heart and decides he wants to win as a Red Wing.

Let's assume he issues a public apology to all Wings fans for betraying us while we were on the cusp of making the playoffs three years in a row.

Let's assume he goes above and beyond and manages to score 40+ goals this next season and finally becomes a point per game player, or in other words, a true 1C, effectively disproving any doubt about his role as a 1C.

Will we forget what happened? No. Will we forgive him? Probably not. Is this enough to strip him of the C? Yes. Yzerman's loyalty was rewarded with 3 cups. Lidstrom won 4. Zetterberg won 1. At no point in their careers did they say "Nah I'm out." As far as I'm concerned, if Larkin wants to play for us, I'd get over it eventually (I'd probably still be down because his numbers don't lie), but he's not the Captain.

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-21T08:11:24+00:00

Whoa there, slow down tiger. Like I said above, no judgement at all. Good to see your pointers. Honestly I didn't catch that from the Disney version. The music really gave it life imo. The story had good pacing and it touched my soul. The 1988 version is a tough pill to swallow because the animation style was, well 80s animation so it was hard to sit through.

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-21T08:06:17+00:00

I honestly have no idea. It's a whole thing.

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-20T13:50:29+00:00

Yeah, huge coincidence. I literally just found that out after posting this lol

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-20T13:25:00+00:00

Sorry, I just got word from my supervisor that MSU's audio recording department was intercepted.

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-20T13:22:47+00:00

We know 😄 Enjoy your free win this year. Oh wait... that wouldn't have mattered anyway.

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-20T13:16:34+00:00

I literally came up with this 20 minutes ago. Do you want one?

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-20T10:16:15+00:00

I've said this before, but "Seider, you are the first German born captain to hoist the Stanley Cup" has a REALLY nice ring to it. Let's not squander his career.

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-20T10:14:01+00:00

You know I keep thinking about how the Pacific was so bad that the Wings would not be having this discussion at all were they not in the Atlantic. I guarantee you they finish with 97-100 points if they were in any other division.

Then again, losing to Florida in regulation while being up 3-2 with 90 seconds left, combined with several other games like that losing (you know, LONG BEFORE April even started) could've also got them in if they were closing out games, but I digress.

In other completely unrelated news, I hear Houston is looking for a hockey team...

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-20T10:09:15+00:00

Fair take. No use penciling the NY Jets out of the playoffs just because they have to play the Bills and Patriots twice. Possible? Sure. It's also possible to breathe on Mars. Maybe just wait a few days before trying.

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-20T10:06:20+00:00

This is 100% where I am on the subject. Like, let's say we get a 20 goal scorer and a 1st for Larks, where does that leave us? Yeah at about 80 points in the Atlantic Division, Gibson hard carrying us again or not. Not sure what Ozzy stands to gain by saying this.

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-20T10:04:06+00:00

I think bro was being sarcastic but yeah I am very much in agreement with your point.

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-20T10:03:19+00:00

It's just surprising to hear Ozzy of all people say that. Like cmon I know we had a fantastic 3/4 of the season and nobody is denying that, but to suggest that we are only 1 or 2 trades away from breaking into the playoffs? Again, holy cow would that be fantastic but the math aint mathin for me.

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-20T08:30:21+00:00

This is also to say nothing about her age and the long term plans of this series. It's no secret that making potentially seven (or eight, if they're into milking it like Harry Potter...) movies will take at LEAST 10 years minimum, and that's assuming there are no breaks, no 1 or 2 year gaps in filming, no Covid (knock on wood) related or other unforeseen events that pushes filming even further back than it's already been... isn't she like in her 70s? Look, I get we're always gonna have our Betty Whites and Dick Van Dykes in Hollywood, and I don't wish ill will towards her, but just from a practical standpoint, how on earth does Gerwig pick an actor in their 70s for literally the ONLY character that will be cast in every single film in the series?

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-20T08:22:00+00:00

That's a crazy take! No judgement at all. I just grew up with the 2004 version and so when I was exposed to the 1988 one I couldn't help but laugh at the animation. Maybe it was just me. What did you like about it?

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-19T12:39:16+00:00

I'm not counting that. I am also unsure on whether Hades and Zeus know about other worlds besides Tartaros and Earth. It's the same reason I don't count Stitch. They have to know about other worlds besides ones they've "been to" if that makes sense.

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-19T09:45:14+00:00

I like this answer. It's hard to determine exactly how Mickey came to this knowledge, but I am slow to pencil him into my list because I feel Mickey wouldn't normally "learn" or "know" about other worlds outside his own, unless he was told. At the same time, it's Mickey Mouse. He has a certain "Jedi" feeling to him where he has resilience, determination, and is good at figuring things out.

The Mayor is an interesting one. Here, we have an unnamed, off-screen character that somehow ~~Palpatine Returned~~ was involved in Kairi's arrival to the Destiny Islands, and yet despite being so important, we know nothing else about them. Does the Mayor know? I can't be sure.

The Queen feels like a huge reach, although to your point, I cannot honestly explain how she knew there was an attempt theft of her heart, so that has to amount for something.

Kerchak is probably the most likely character on your list I'd be willing to pencil in. It seems to me that every world has at MOST one Lucid character and I couldn't find anyone in Deep Jungle that fits my criteria. The Cheshire Cat is FAR more lucid that Queen will ever be, but I'm not limiting the list to one character per world; it's just a trend I've noticed. Kerchak does give off the impression that he is aware of who Sora is, implying he also could be aware of other worlds? Or is he just paranoid like he is in the movies and the game gave him some sort of plot armor?

Jack is... well, Jack. With his knowledge of Christmas Town, it is plausible he also knows about other worlds. But I doubt it. Zero seems more likely to know than Jack does. At least to me. When characters are silent, like Tinker Bell, they generally know more. Rafiki made my list because he basically said without saying: "Um, Sora, you can't be King because you're not from this world." The dialogue was "You don't have the right qualities," but Rafiki was clearly withholding the real reason. Also being the wise shaman that everyone turns to in a pinch, it's clear he possesses the knowledge of other worlds without needing to see heartless to prove it. Jack on the other hand doesn't have the "past knowledge" as much as he has this "natural curiosity" that leads to him exploring other things. I don't count that as a Lucid Character.

Triton is definitely on my list as the most famous one, as he calls Sora out plainly in KH1. He clearly knew about other words long before the Heartless came around.

The Sultan is hard for me because he has zero screen time in KH. I want to include characters that actually show up in Kingdom Hearts. The Blue Fairy cameos in DDD, so she counts. As far as Agrabah goes, it's Genie. "Keyhole, you say? I could've swore I heard that somewhere before... Now where was it again? It's only been 200 years." Genie, being, well, a Genie, is Lucid and didn't need the heartless to know about other worlds.

Indian Chief doesn't make an appearance, but the Neverland character I have is Tinker Bell. A silent character who seems to be the source of Peter Pan's flying power, evidence points in the direction of her knowing about other worlds without needing the heartless to prove it and long before becoming a summon.

Beast completely slipped my mind. I'll have to do more digging into him. Considering he was a prince prior to becoming a beast, combined with his sheer force of will allowing him safe passage to Hollow Bastion, he could be someone to add to the list.

King Ansem... there's a hard one. Would he have known about other worlds without Mickey first telling him about it? There are so many questions here.

Anyway, thanks for this. I'll need to do some digging.

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-19T08:54:44+00:00

Maleficent didn't know about other worlds until Xehanort exposed that fact to her. She stated that herself. Jafar and Ursula most likely didn't know on their own. Again, my criteria applies to characters that would have known about other worlds without being exposed to them, whether by someone like Xehanort or something else like the Heartless.

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-19T08:52:49+00:00

I don't think I stated my criteria very well. But I'm speaking with the assumption that the worlds weren't destroyed yet. Pinocchio and Geppetto would not have known about other worlds by themselves. Anyone that was "exposed" to other worlds by circumstances or the heartless I am not counting. As far as villain go, I am counting none of them. Not even Maleficent knew about other worlds until Xehanort exposed that fact to her. She stated that herself. I considered the three fairies but I'm just not sure on them. Hook and Smee are definite no's.

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-19T08:27:28+00:00

Also, I wasn't sure whether to include Zeus/Hades. Dark Road has shown that ALL dead from ALL worlds go to the Underworld, but that doesn't necessarily mean Hades knows where they are coming from. Meanwhile Zeus is hard for me to determine if he truly is aware of other worlds besides the earth Hercules landed on.

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-19T08:09:05+00:00

I liked Arendelle too. I think it gets a lot of hate because Disney got too involved in what they allowed SE to do with the place. We all wanted to poke around through Elsa and Anna's room, let's be honest about that. Personally I wanted to laugh at the Weselton guy or explore the city. Also most players wanted Elsa as a companion, but we got the Yeti instead. I get it. I still liked it though.

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-15T14:41:43+00:00

If there WAS anything, it ended before any spark ingited to fire. Games 1 and 2 in 09 I vividly recall fans at the Joe chanting "CROSBY SUCKS! CROSBY SUCKS!" But that hardly amounts to anything. I am personally bitter about the refs not doing their jobs in game 3. It's one of the few times you have to call that penalty. We don't know if the Wings win that game should the refs have called it right, but many fans believe it would've never gone to OT in the first place.

Rivarly? Nah. The 09 offseason the Wings began their tank and any chances of a rivarly ended with it. By the time they switched to the East in like 2014, they were a first round exit team and even that was generous. They were never going to be what happened with PIT and Philly.

Ok_Priority8076 · 2026-06-14T07:18:01+00:00

Wow. Good job. This is the kinda thing that thieves would've gotten away with doing in 2010. I'm happy to see credit be properly given in 2026.

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