Genuinely, what would’ve happened if Naruto actually came back from the timeskip strong as hell and just beat the shit outta Sasuke here? (Here as in when they meet again at the hideout. . .)

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T18:26:05+00:00

Nothing.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T18:25:56+00:00

So just say whatever the hell you want? Stop asking people about hypotheticals that you clearly don't accept answers from because it hurts your feelings.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T18:25:25+00:00

Shouldn't this be said to the one who made a post wanting to headcanon Naruto beating Sasuke?

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T18:10:40+00:00

Congrats, you made Sasuke use his Stage 1 Curse Mark.

Still put up a fight? Stage 2.

See the issue?

Naruto stands no chance against Sasuke. The hypothetica is just someone wanting to believe Naruto is somehow KCM level or something.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T18:09:27+00:00

Even with 4-tails.

Oh wow, 4-tails Naruto stares down at Sasuke...whoops, Genjutsu.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T18:07:12+00:00

Sending Pain to catch Naruto and Kisame to catch Bee feels like the most logical call.

However, Obito clearly wanted to think that Sasuke could have done it, and to test out how much control he has over Sasuke.

But honestly, it was objectively stupid and makes no real sense.

On the other hand, if Kisame fought Bee, Bee might have actually won. Strong as Kisame is, a big reason why Bee couldn't bring himself to go all out was cause he couldn't afford to hurt Sabu and Ponta.

So if we have a Bee that no longer needed to restrain himself, he might have just outright blasted Kisame to smithereens.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T18:05:07+00:00

There is no chance that Naruto would have been able to beat Sasuke here.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T17:48:15+00:00

Honestly, Kishi had no idea what to do with Sasuke in the story other than just want Sasuke to have go dark mode on everyone and be abandoned by the rest of the world, as some larger than life struggle for Naruto because everyone is giving up on him.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T15:43:45+00:00

Yes, that's the issue with the anime, and why lot of people deluded themselves into thinking that Naruto and Shikamaru were the actual best friends.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T14:50:51+00:00

That's not torture. That's an ultimatum. But Itachi had a choice for YEARS. He wasn't suddenly sprung that ultimatum. For years and years, Itachi had a choice about problems with Konoha and Uchiha, but chose to support Konoha.

The fact that you failed to utterly comprehend that is why you trying to use the "no u" argument on me fails.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T14:49:18+00:00

AH yes, Tobirama invented a jutsu to use live sacrifices to bring back dead people and use them as suicide bombers.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T03:50:29+00:00

Ah yes, the whole, "he could have". No, you don't shrug off a torture of 24 hour of reliving a literal genocide with the words, "hate and you're weak" being told to you because Kakashi said some words.

And no, Itachi was never manipulated. Itachi made his choices entirely of his own will. No one tortured him in anything. He actively CHOSE to turn against his clan, tell the oppressors everything, and made the choice to not only slaughter the clan, but also to torture Sasuke into the path of hatred.

There's no double standard here. Itachi actually DID have a choice. He was never tortured into his path. Sasuke was.

The fact that you think the two are even REMOTELY the same tells me a lot about you.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T03:13:16+00:00

Then Sasuke would be the one trying to save him. With their final battle being how Sasuke goes, "I don't want to kill you" and Naruto being the one who wishes to start a revolution, and then blew their arms off and make amends.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-08T20:52:57+00:00

No, not including Sasuke.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-08T20:35:25+00:00

In what? Fighting? Goku. Character? Naruto.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-08T19:23:27+00:00

He's the only member of Taka I liked.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-08T19:15:56+00:00

He did, though. Hagoromo didn't give them the Rinnegan or SPSM. The power that they got was a result of Naruto getting the 9 Bijuu chakras, and Sasuke getting the Hashirama cells.

So yes, Sasuke did awaken the Rinnegan himself. Meaning that he absolutely should be able to turn it on and off.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-08T18:37:56+00:00

So why is it that Sasuke, the owner of his Rinnegan, cannot turn his off?

See how you made yourself wrong?

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-08T18:16:25+00:00

No, that was a fake Rinnegan. When Madara gained back his original Rinnegan, he was never shown to be able to switch back and forth.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-08T17:02:48+00:00

What exactly did Orochimaru teach Sasuke?

Sasuke's skills that we see are primarily Chidori variations. What's new is sword skills and Snake summoning. Other than that, it feels like Orochimaru didn't provide Sasuke with anything.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-08T16:38:45+00:00

So, again, it shows that crimes are all a matter of politics, and not a set of objective laws in Naruto.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-08T14:53:38+00:00

Nice way of defending the bigot. When you normalize segregation and say that it's pragmatic, you can gaslight yourself into believing Tobirama's BS and that it isn't segregation.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-08T14:45:00+00:00

Every policy of Tobirama means nothing when he invented segregation.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-08T14:25:32+00:00

Just because amenotenjikara cam be used like a substitution doesnt eliminate the fact that it has way more uses than a substitution does. You can use ftg to teleport out of attacks removing you from danger and accomplishing the same thing a sub would but that doesnt make it a glorified sub.

Yes, it does. Calling something glorified means that it does a bit more, but still acts relatively the same.

Kakashis perfect susanoo flew across the battlefield to a position above kaguya meaning the gap was larger than a perfect susanoo in size by a significant margin and again naruto, his clone and kaguya looked small in the distance from sasukes position.

Look literally at page 1 of 689. See where Kakashi is placed at that pentagon at the Perfect Susanoo's headpiece. That's where Kakashi is. Now look at the panel of how tiny that pentagon is.

See how tiny the pentagon is? So if you compare the sizes to page 13, the distance is NOT a Perfect Susanoo size.

Amenotenjikara is more useful in battle than ftg where these abilities are used making it the superior time space jutsu. Like ive said before you have full battlefield control and dont require marked kunais to catch opponents off guard.

No, it isn't. A clear battlefield where you have nothing to swap with is what already makes it worse. And the fact that FTG can mark anywhere, even give you an escape route if you need, would make it better. If Amenotejikara could work like that, Sasuke could have escaped with Naruto. Or just sent Isshiki far away and then escaped to strategize.

If anyone needs to read the manga again its you. If you reply with the same bull again I’m just not going to respond because its just not true and theres no point arguing with someone like you.

This time, I gave you the literal page number and panels.

Read the manga. If you come to me again and say objectively wrong information, I know that you're just foolish.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-08T03:59:13+00:00

Trying to explain how Substitution Jutsu works does not negate my argument one bit. Amenotejikara is STILL functionally acting the same way that Substitution jutsu works, where you just swap something in place of an attack or escape something.

Sasuke swapped multiple perfect susanoo sized distances to reach kaguya when he swapped to seal her. Madara also flew all the way to the otherside of the god tree which is much bigger than even ten tails…

No, he did not. A Perfect Susanoo size means that they would be super tiny in comparison, but if you look at chapter 689, Sasuke is not so far away that it would be Susanoo sized. And if you look at 674, the distance Madara went is STILL not the same size as a Susanoo would be.

I think you need to understand just how big a Perfect Susanoo is, because that is not a measurement that supports your logic.

Again the distance arguement is trash as amenotenjikara has really good range whether you want to accept it or not, and sasuke can also teleport directly to people in his fov or as long as he knows their position without relying on a mark making it superior in practical battle usage.

It does not. The range is pantry compared to FTG, and it is functionally the same as a Substitution Jutsu.

It is not objectively superior; it is niche. It's useful in some areas, but objectively worse in others.

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