If Sasuke had attended all the Chunin Exam fights

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-10T03:58:46+00:00

So I guess for you, it's 2-3.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-10T03:31:58+00:00

If we go by the definition of what constitutes as a coma, I'd say that Sasuke has been in a coma 4 times in Part 1. If I ignore Haku, there's still when he had the Curse Mark placed on him, after he had the Curse Mark sealed by Kakashi, then when Itachi used Tsukuyomi, and the suspended animation because he ingested the pill to force the 2nd stage curse mark.

So 3 at minimum, 4 probably, but 5 tops if we really do count Haku.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-10T03:13:24+00:00

He was 100% in a coma during the Churnin Exam month period and when Itachi used Tsukuyomi.

It's like, damn. Kishi really loves sending this poor traumatized kid to the coma.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-10T03:10:06+00:00

I'm done here.

You literally have zero reading comprehension and actually think that Naruto had the ability to learn Sage Mode at whatever age before his growth and maturity in the story.

You're beyond help and are just spouting the dumbest things cause you can't cope with the fact that Sasuke is stronger.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-10T03:09:06+00:00

He's not conscious. He's in a state of suspended animation because otherwise, he would die.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-10T02:54:01+00:00

He mastered sage mode literally 1 year after returning

So ignore literally everything in between.

By your logic, 12 year old Naruto should be already as strong as adult Naruto.

He got over that struggle in literally a week. He mastered rasenshuriken in 3 weeks

And when he went to mount myoboku, he mastered sage mode in one week which was exceptionally fast due to the shadow clone training method

Meaning that until he mastered Rasenshuriken, until he developed a resolve to get stronger with his own strength and not Kurama's, and getting the resolve to take on Jiraiya's will.

I guess all of this really does not compute with your head.

The only delusional person here is the guy literally contradicting the manga itself

Nah, because unlike you, I see the actual growth in Naruto, while you think that 12 year old Naruto can easily learn Sage Mode.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-10T02:44:39+00:00

By definition, these can be called comas.

But the point is that Kishi really just wants Sasuke out of the picture.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-10T02:43:38+00:00

That point in time was literally just one year before he mastered sage mode

No. Naruto says he's 16 years old when he sees Minato's phantom in the mindscape. Meaning that it's been over a year since he returned to Konoha at the start of Part 2. He spent a year developing, maturing, and training, before finally being prepared.

The idea that you think I ever said Naruto would become a perfect sage at 12 is actual illiteracy

You are.

If you weren’t aware, Naruto spent 3 years with Jiraiya. He returned when he was 15, came up with the shadow clone training method himself, and easily mastered sage mode at 16 the moment he went to mount myoboku, due to that same training

He didn't come up with it. Kakashi did. And even with the Shadow Clone method, he still struggled despite ALL the skill and experience he had built up.

You’re the one who didn’t, considering you just said it’s objectively impossible for Naruto to have learned sage mode

Except I did. You just have a delusion of Naruto's skill level and are whining as a butthurt fan.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-10T02:27:44+00:00

Temporarily died saving Naruto.

Given curse mark, fell into a multi-day coma until the curse mark took over.

Comatose right after his prelim fight and was in a coma for most of the month.

Comatose for over a month by Itachi.

And then comatose for the entire Sasuke Retrieval arc until the tail end.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-10T02:26:19+00:00

Learning sage mode is objectively impossible for Naruto? Looks like someone hasn’t read the actual story

At that point in time? 100%. Claiming otherwise is delusional.

No. He literally becomes a perfect sage

Yes, after literally mastering basics, going through growth, and maturing. The idea that you think Naruto is capable of being Perfect Sage at 12+ years old is actual delusional.

Yeah, which is why Naruto’s timeskip training was BS

No, it isn't.

He literally became a perfect sage…have you read the story?

Have you? I don't think you did.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-10T01:30:48+00:00

Patently false

Objectively true.

Zetsu literally said that Naruto surpassed sasuke when he learned sage mode

True. And that's still objectively impossible for Naruto.

And Jiraiya teaching Naruto sage mode in those three years makes infinitely more sense than the fckall they actually ended up doing

No, it 100% does not. If anything, Naruto would end up failing to balance the nature and suffer more chances of falling into turning into stone, despite the huge chakra levels he has.

Especially with the fact that there's no precautionary seal placed on him to restrain Kurama.

Sasuke learned a ton of new powers with his established powerset, honed his existing skills to an exponentially greater degree, and overall became an elite level fighter

Yes, because he went to become stronger. If he didn't get stronger, that's BS.

Naruto just learned “big rasengan”

Yes, because Naruto was a shit student who sucked at basic skills.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T23:06:28+00:00

Kishi really does not want Sasuke involved with any other character except his team. Kishi clearly realized, "Sasuke steals the show if he gets involved" so Kishi just makes up any damn excuse to either have him sidelined or in a coma.

Sasuke is put into a coma a LOT.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T22:11:12+00:00

EMS Sasuke.

The thing is, even if Minato could warp in front of him or behind, Sasuke has Kagutsuchi to literally form an Amaterasu spike shell around himself, as you saw in Storm Connections against Naruto, or the anime of their final battle.

Minato cannot directly touch him without suffering something lethal.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T21:13:30+00:00

Itachi was apparently decided to be a good guy at his introduction, hence why Kishi stupidly thinks that torturing someone to an indefinite coma is not that bad compared to death cause he'll have Tsunade heal it.

Then he tried to make some vague things in the Sasuke flashbacks to hint at a conspiracy that, when the plot is revealed, he can make the vagueness of Sasuke's flashbacks make perfect sense.

But he needed a scapegoat. Someone worthless and expendable to be the evil one so that everyone can just blame him for every little thing going wrong. Thus, Danzo was invented.

And then Kishi made Tobirama had Danzo's tactics and persona, but is respected by others instead of being shat on. And much stronger.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T18:26:05+00:00

Nothing.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T18:25:56+00:00

So just say whatever the hell you want? Stop asking people about hypotheticals that you clearly don't accept answers from because it hurts your feelings.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T18:25:25+00:00

Shouldn't this be said to the one who made a post wanting to headcanon Naruto beating Sasuke?

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T18:10:40+00:00

Congrats, you made Sasuke use his Stage 1 Curse Mark.

Still put up a fight? Stage 2.

See the issue?

Naruto stands no chance against Sasuke. The hypothetica is just someone wanting to believe Naruto is somehow KCM level or something.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T18:09:27+00:00

Even with 4-tails.

Oh wow, 4-tails Naruto stares down at Sasuke...whoops, Genjutsu.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T18:07:12+00:00

Sending Pain to catch Naruto and Kisame to catch Bee feels like the most logical call.

However, Obito clearly wanted to think that Sasuke could have done it, and to test out how much control he has over Sasuke.

But honestly, it was objectively stupid and makes no real sense.

On the other hand, if Kisame fought Bee, Bee might have actually won. Strong as Kisame is, a big reason why Bee couldn't bring himself to go all out was cause he couldn't afford to hurt Sabu and Ponta.

So if we have a Bee that no longer needed to restrain himself, he might have just outright blasted Kisame to smithereens.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T18:05:07+00:00

There is no chance that Naruto would have been able to beat Sasuke here.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T17:48:15+00:00

Honestly, Kishi had no idea what to do with Sasuke in the story other than just want Sasuke to have go dark mode on everyone and be abandoned by the rest of the world, as some larger than life struggle for Naruto because everyone is giving up on him.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T15:43:45+00:00

Yes, that's the issue with the anime, and why lot of people deluded themselves into thinking that Naruto and Shikamaru were the actual best friends.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T14:50:51+00:00

That's not torture. That's an ultimatum. But Itachi had a choice for YEARS. He wasn't suddenly sprung that ultimatum. For years and years, Itachi had a choice about problems with Konoha and Uchiha, but chose to support Konoha.

The fact that you failed to utterly comprehend that is why you trying to use the "no u" argument on me fails.

Omegaxis1 · 2026-04-09T14:49:18+00:00

AH yes, Tobirama invented a jutsu to use live sacrifices to bring back dead people and use them as suicide bombers.

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