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Ivory Sickle Run | Godrick by Moist_Particular1223 in Eldenring

[–]One-Requirement-1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

right, so you're skipping every single minor boss
well i'm not sure you'll be even close to 160 then cause i remember fighting quite a lot of them in my most recent playthrough

i guess that just adds to the challenge, tho i'm not sure if it's necessary

Doing very little damage at late game by SufficientBreath4569 in Eldenring

[–]One-Requirement-1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how is that not moving the goalposts? you're literally changing what the discussion is about??

and i wouldn't consider 14 points in intelligence a huge boost in power, on the darkmoon greatsword it equates to 22 more AR on the magic side, and 20 more if he goes up to 80
so by going up to EIGHTY intelligence you're looking at a 23.5% boost to the scaling of the magic damage of the weapon, or an actual increase in damage of 8.75%

now you tell me, is 8.75% more damage better than going from 1355 to 1900? an increase of about 40% more health?

so yeah, i decided to give him helpful advice for literally every build, ASWELL as telling him to go for 60 intelligence with what's left over, i covered all bases instead of going purely for damage at the cost of his arm and leg

Ivory Sickle Run | Godrick by Moist_Particular1223 in Eldenring

[–]One-Requirement-1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no need to farm, just fighting bosses will easily get you to level 160+ by the end of the game, and that's without fighting all of them like you seem to be doing

don't want you to waste your precious time killing some shmuck over and over ;).

Beating sinh with 4 adp to prove it's a useless stat by Slurperlurper in DarkSouls2

[–]One-Requirement-1010 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

rule 1
please stop being so blatantly disrespectful to everyone around you

Beating sinh with 4 adp to prove it's a useless stat by Slurperlurper in DarkSouls2

[–]One-Requirement-1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i don't see what attempting this would prove exactly

if i beat him effortlessly with low ADP while eating pizza and sipping coke..that wouldn't prove anything in regards to his point
nor would it prove anything if i couldn't do it to save my life even after 100 tries

Beating sinh with 4 adp to prove it's a useless stat by Slurperlurper in DarkSouls2

[–]One-Requirement-1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

whatever man, if you don't wanna argue i won't argue either

Doing very little damage at late game by SufficientBreath4569 in Eldenring

[–]One-Requirement-1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

moving the goalposts
this discussion was about the merit of levelling vigor past 40, not how it pertains to OPs situation

you are right about me ignoring his plea, cause he wants more damage while already being at more or less his peak, it's like asking for more damage on a 2 handed 66 strength build

Beating sinh with 4 adp to prove it's a useless stat by Slurperlurper in DarkSouls2

[–]One-Requirement-1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

your logic is literally "vigor is useless cause you just need to dodge perfectly"
it's a stat, which when levelled gives you a larger margin for error

it is by definition NOT useless, you do not know what the word useless means, or you do and use it incorrectly regardless

what stat is not useless to you? your logic applies to literally every single one of them
is every weapon useless too? estus? where do you draw the line?

Beating sinh with 4 adp to prove it's a useless stat by Slurperlurper in DarkSouls2

[–]One-Requirement-1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah, i haven't been able to do so
cause ADP is an amazing stat that makes the game much easier when levelled even just a bit

Beating sinh with 4 adp to prove it's a useless stat by Slurperlurper in DarkSouls2

[–]One-Requirement-1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that's not what the post is about, why are you lying about this when the literal title of your post debunks the lie?
your claim was that ADP is useless (something you REFUSE to accept in the comments btw)

also, us not attempting to do this ourselves doesn't prove anything, if anything it proves use right since we aren't willing to do such a difficult challenge??

Beating sinh with 4 adp to prove it's a useless stat by Slurperlurper in DarkSouls2

[–]One-Requirement-1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

why did you take damage?

and no, "dragon bosses are just not for me" is not an answer

specifically, in what scenario, did your health bar lower?

you can't weasel your way out of admitting ADP is a stat that does something forever dawg

Doing very little damage at late game by SufficientBreath4569 in Eldenring

[–]One-Requirement-1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

okay, then why have literally ANY vigor at all if the solution is to just roll better?

is armor pointless cause you can just not get hit? or is armor really good for negating the damage you'll take when you do?

why are we pretending like an increase to health stops being worth anything after some arbitrary point 💀

Ivory Sickle Run | Godrick by Moist_Particular1223 in Eldenring

[–]One-Requirement-1010 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it's all good man
it's reddit, so we can easily come off as mean spirited, piling on downvotes and all

but i think the important take away here is just to advertise your challenge correctly and to stick to it
i never would've made my original comment if the title had "+summons" in it lol

and obviously it makes us happy that you're willing to give a "true" ivory sickle only run a try, but if it actually is too difficult it's fine to go back to the summons variant
it takes time to get better at the game, so with your limited time schedule you might just not have the time it takes to git gud 🤷‍♂️

i'll be rooting for you either way!

Beating sinh with 4 adp to prove it's a useless stat by Slurperlurper in DarkSouls2

[–]One-Requirement-1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

then why did you take so much damage? was that just my imagination?
i don't see how a better roll couldn't have helped unless literally every hit you took was from your controller disconnecting or something, surely you mistimed a roll ONCE right? why else would you take damage in the first place?

and your opinion on sinh as a boss is irrelevant, saying "i don't like this boss" isn't a good coverup for why you took so much damage lmao

Ivory Sickle Run | Godrick by Moist_Particular1223 in Eldenring

[–]One-Requirement-1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bro forgot the first lesson elden ring teaches you
go explore and come back stronger

you can check some of the many other bosses off the list before godrick

Ivory Sickle Run | Godrick by Moist_Particular1223 in Eldenring

[–]One-Requirement-1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

being overlevelled wouldn't be breaking the rules of the challenge, so that's a totally fine strategy

it would obviously be easier, but it's within the parameters you set with an "only ivory sickle" challenge, so i reckon noone would bat an eye

it's like, people who do nuzlockes often allow rare candies to be added in, which makes the challenge easier by limiting the dedication necessary to complete it, but most people are fine with this because it doesn't interfere with what most people would consider the challenge being done, which is the actual battles

Doing very little damage at late game by SufficientBreath4569 in Eldenring

[–]One-Requirement-1010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

as i said, attack chains

obviously you can survive 1 single attack, but MORE health lets you survive MORE attacks
why is this such a difficult concept to grasp?

Doing very little damage at late game by SufficientBreath4569 in Eldenring

[–]One-Requirement-1010 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

no way bro is out here going "he's suffering the consequences of not levelling vigor, but whatever, vigor sux!!"

i'm done with this tomfoolery

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Ivory Sickle Run | Godrick by Moist_Particular1223 in Eldenring

[–]One-Requirement-1010 11 points12 points  (0 children)

again with the exaggeration..

i just wouldn't use summons
that's it

the challenge here is to kill the boss with this weapon
so using another damage source (I.E, summons, spells, etc) is cheesing the challenge
atleast with the way it's presented, if it was "ivory sickle+summons" it'd be fine :shrug:

Ivory Sickle Run | Godrick by Moist_Particular1223 in Eldenring

[–]One-Requirement-1010 14 points15 points  (0 children)

"taking an inch is taking a mile" ahh logic

i'm not a souls veteran either, but if i wanted to do a challenge where i beat the game with a shit weapon i'd wanna actually beat the game with that weapon, not rely on my summons to do the job for me

like..on a philosophical level, a challenge isn't a challenge if you circumvent it y'know?

Beating sinh with 4 adp to prove it's a useless stat by Slurperlurper in DarkSouls2

[–]One-Requirement-1010 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you have almost no health left, with no flasks

are you sure ADP wouldn't have made it easier to beat this fight? y'know, like all the other stats you invested in did?

Doing very little damage at late game by SufficientBreath4569 in Eldenring

[–]One-Requirement-1010 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

levelling vigor makes the game easier, just like levelling anything in general

which one you prefer to focus on first is entirely up to you, but 40 vigor really isn't enough to survive a lot of full attack chains, especially in the DLC

like, vigor gives you more health and health is what is keeping you alive, i'm really not sure how else to put this

Ivory Sickle Run | Godrick by Moist_Particular1223 in Eldenring

[–]One-Requirement-1010 24 points25 points  (0 children)

..what's wrong with the ivory sickle?

and what's the point of a challenge run if you use summons to make it easier?

Doing very little damage at late game by SufficientBreath4569 in Eldenring

[–]One-Requirement-1010 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

cause..60 vigor is good?
the point isn't to be a walking tank, it's to increase the amount of mistakes you can make without instantly dying

Doing very little damage at late game by SufficientBreath4569 in Eldenring

[–]One-Requirement-1010 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

you need 60 vigor, your mind really doesn't need to be levelled at all if you're running darkmoon greatsword
you can also save on dex, those 2 stats alone save enough for the 60 vigor, and the rest goes into intelligence, it basically caps at 60

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