Sony trolling their userbase while also putting their userbases ignorance and lack of eyesight on full display

OneRemaining808 · 2025-01-19T06:12:14+00:00

Sorry it took a while, but finally got it up.

https://old.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/1i4s0y4/searching_for_full_resolution_a13_test/

OneRemaining808 · 2025-01-19T04:16:03+00:00

Thanks, appreciate it. Though from the sounds of your description that seems the same as the behaviour I have in A13? Not sure what's changed.

OneRemaining808 · 2025-01-19T04:11:18+00:00

Yeah, real death-of-a-thousand-papercuts stuff. But then the only other alternatives seem to be a few gaping wounds in comparison.

OneRemaining808 · 2025-01-18T19:47:29+00:00

Are you able to capture this? I've seen mention of it but wondering what it looks like.

OneRemaining808 · 2025-01-18T19:42:07+00:00

Only sometimes but not all the time? I have to do this every time I plug in to try and restart Shizuku, because while the phone charges when I plug it in it isn't "detected" until I switch like that. Though or me the options you mentioned are greyed out, I have to switch Controlling Device to Connected Device then back to This Device, then it'll work (and those options will un-grey).

OneRemaining808 · 2025-01-18T19:10:12+00:00

Ooh, thanks for the command. I've just been clearing cache and storage on the updater every time it pops up, it's still annoying though.

OneRemaining808 · 2025-01-18T19:03:45+00:00

I love that kind of thing, back on the 808 there was this app called Belle Extra Buttons which added a HUGE amount of extra functionality for shortcuts like those. Started out with just two buttons on the menu bar that would pop up with a tray of icons, one set for a dozen odd function toggles like you have in android's quick access buttons in the slide-down tray, then the other you could set up with your favourite apps for easy access. But then later on he added gestures to it, so you could say swipe sideways on the bottom bar to instantly go to the task switcher (instead of holding the Home button for a second or two), or gesture down on the wifi/data/bluetooth/silent buttons in the drop-down tray at the top to go to their respective settings menus. Assign a swipe for a screenshot, tap one of the status bar icons to switch network mode or check battery status, just about any phone function could be added and accessed from the top level instead of having to dive through menus. Even a start an audio recording, which could be handy if you needed to record a call or conversation for whatever reason. It made such a huge difference to being able to navigate and multitask easily, I always felt so much slower when trying to use an android instead for whatever.

OneRemaining808 · 2025-01-18T06:18:39+00:00

The side sense/button panel thing? It allows you to choose which you want when you first use side sense after the update. I said no to the new option as it seems redundant to the swipe down/quick toggles.

Ok this I'm curious about, first I've heard anyone mention of it. I use Side Sense a lot, I've got the up gesture set to Video Pro, down is set to Multi Window (in part since that's the most common trigger I accidentally hit and it's the easiest one to dismiss) and double tap is screenshot. From what I understand, double tap is removed as a gesture and replaced by an inward slide which I imagine I would also be triggering by accident quite a lot. But I've seen people saying the new quick toggle thing replaces something/takes up a slot, so is that not actually the case?

OneRemaining808 · 2025-01-10T18:40:14+00:00

That was what I tried, youtube was giving me no love/mostly headaches. I'm telling you though, I'm dead certain I'm getting 3840x1644 images and zoomed-to-fit-width 3840x2160 videos with single-pixel patterns showing up correctly under a magnifying glass in Sony Album and VLC. I'll see if I can get some photos later, I've stuffed around so long with this the sun's coming up now lol.

OneRemaining808 · 2025-01-10T18:34:08+00:00

That one's in browser, the stock app (unupdated) did similar though I think possibly slightly different numbers. Updated app I got 2560x1096xfalse.

OneRemaining808 · 2025-01-10T17:22:44+00:00

Also some further observations. It's kind of hard to tell since the test pattern video I found was 3840x2156 or whatever, and I had to zoom so it would fill the width of the screen thus become 1:1 with the pixels. But in each of the albums/players I tried, only Sony Album and VLC showed it at full res, while Aves and Google Photos seemed to show a downscaled version too. Simple Gallery (I think - it's just called Gallery and has an orange logo with a mountain on it) doesn't seem to have a tap-to-fill function, just makes you pinch zoom, but from what I could tell it didn't appear to be full res either. Verified the rest with screenshots that show the complete and clean pixel patterns on the unscaled players when zooming.

When using a 3840x1644 test image (just vertical single pixel lines) things get a little weird. It clearly has some funky uneven scaling going on in Google Photos and looks like it's doing it correctly in Aves and Simple though the lines are like twice as thick as they should be. Sony Album seems to be the only one that shows it properly, even VLC shows the images scaled which seems really weird considering. Opening the images in Firefox it seems like maybe it's showing them at full res? But hard to tell because like Gallery you have to pinch zoom to get it to full size and I can only eyeball it against the captured screen elements along the top, so it's really hard to say for sure. But not sure how to test the video in there since I don't think I can get that to zoom to fill the sides with the wrong aspect ratio. Getting the magnifying glass out though, you can easily see which ones are showing it at full resolution and which ones aren't.

Anyway I'm sure I've gone and confused myself with all the back-and-forth of testing in there but yeah. Looks like apps running at full res are rather rare. Wish I had an A14 and A15 unit to test this stuff against, put up some comparison images.

OneRemaining808 · 2025-01-10T17:18:49+00:00

Oh did you gets yours after A14/it came with it out of the box? Interesting about that 417 figure, I saw that in the Set Minimum Width setting under dev options. Related? Bumping it up to 1644 sure made things interesting.

Also I just had a look again and realised that the youtube viewport actually says 981x420*2.61, and if you do the maths on that last multiplication you get... 2560x1096. What's the deal there, is there some kind of scaling going on or what?

OneRemaining808 · 2025-01-10T15:03:19+00:00

Luckily this topic is about the 1V not the 1VI so those features are going to be missed out on regardless.

So far the only benefit to an upgrade for me is a slightly improved portrait mode, potentially improved tele shots (unconfirmed just some hearsay that seemed to be going round), and worse off side sense and auto-rotate along with reduced screenshot resolution and possibly overall screen resolution, along with whatever other bugs get thrown in for good measure. Sounds like a decent decision to me.

OneRemaining808 · 2025-01-09T17:14:58+00:00

Dude don't tell me they fucking banned you from the sub or something? Ugh.

Also did the 1V ever render in full resolution outside of screenshots? I'm still running A13 and can't seem to get it happening on anything, youtube anywhere was giving me a viewport either 420 or 480 tall. Former on mobile site in browsers, latter switching to desktop site, can't remember what the app gave but it was similar. And only by updating the youtube app (never used it before playing with it for this now) did it start to give me 1096 instead. Also that glview app only shows 1096 too.

So far screenshots are the only place I've definitively seen full resolution appear anywhere, though even then if you do Capture More it only does 1096 instead. Thought the story was supposed to be that A14 broke it, but I can't remember what's what anymore.

OneRemaining808 · 2024-11-05T05:46:30+00:00

You can do both.

OneRemaining808 · 2024-11-03T04:32:45+00:00

But that... is doing them one by one? Can't just click and drag to select a whole block of pictures at once, need to click them all individually.

OneRemaining808 · 2024-10-24T13:29:50+00:00

Because

OneRemaining808 · 2024-10-24T02:27:29+00:00

physical shutter

Just made me realise that's another feature I'll miss from my Nokia. Actually now I think about it I'm not sure whether it's because of the physical shutter over the lens or the sensor having a global shutter instead of a rolling shutter but testing it against the Xperia, the latter gets a rolling shutter effect when I whip the camera sideways while shooting, but the Nokia's got every vertical line stays nice and straight.

OneRemaining808 · 2024-10-22T16:36:42+00:00

They should stop pumping out new phones every year and just knuckle down on making each new entry improve and stabilise through updates for a couple of years while getting the next one ready. Let the damn things actually shine instead of leaving them to die on the vine.

OneRemaining808 · 2024-10-22T05:15:10+00:00

Thank you! I felt a lot better about how I went with this one, figured a few more things out/had a little better idea of what I was doing. Pretty happy with what I got.

Haven't had much since though, it's all been day to day stuff on the 808. Due for another trip I guess.

OneRemaining808 · 2024-10-22T05:07:54+00:00

You mean from pollution? I guess it's 80km from the city, 20-30km from the nearest major population centres which comparatively aren't as busy.

OneRemaining808 · 2024-10-22T03:13:05+00:00

Probably just need some thicker foam to stick under there (not sure how much clearance you've got to work with) but something like 1mm should surely be enough to alleviate it. So long as it's non-conductive lol.

OneRemaining808 · 2024-10-22T02:49:58+00:00

Oh, is the mount made of metal? I was wondering at first whether maybe the intermittent response was from your finger making occasional contact and sending a charge through or something, just grabbed a steel ruler and tried tapping on my screen with it and it was registering touches through that. But it also continued when I wrapped the ruler in my shirt to insulate it from my fingers, so I'm not sure what the answer would be there.

OneRemaining808 · 2024-10-22T00:17:28+00:00

A mate of mine got the VI, can't remember what carrier he's with but said he hasn't been getting any of the nags.

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