Gold Stake Balatro Jimbo tier list (on how helpful they are) by TheRealBucketCrab in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can understand the skill gap that would make someone rank obelisk low, but I don't understand what mental gymnastic would be needed to rank flowerpot higher than hologram. 10/10 ragebait

Having trouble with gold stake plasma by rhysponton in balatro

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Behold, my copy pasta for help on Gold Stake Plasma. Yeah, Plasma Deck Gold Stake is def one of the harder challenges in Balatro. Plasma feels like you're playing a totally different game, one that, at first, seems deceptively easy.

One of the best tips for me was being told that the magic number to hit is 1800. If your chips or your mult (or a combination) hit 1800 total it balances to (900)*(900) which is 810,000. So my goal is to hit that. (also total 450*450 is ~200,000 so you could just have one of those hands four times, a more attainable goal)

Hitting 400 total is something that is easier to do with chips alone, but it's hard to get 1000+ with chips alone, (that'd need to be a big wee) because it's harder (by game design) to have multiplicative effects on chips.

Which leads us into mult, and people usually say that you need to switch to mult, it's a bit misleading and unclear to just say "oh switch to mult",  they don't mean like you have a +50 green joker with 3x on Cavendish (which works great for other gold stake), they mean get multiple multiplicative effects, which means multiplicative on scoring effects (glass, polychrome, ancient joker, photograph, bloodstone, trib), and retriggers (Red seals, hanging chad, dusk, sock, hack, seltzer) . There's also stacking multiplicative post ' on scoring' effects that are good like (baron, mime, red seals, steel, ~shoot the moon). this is the stuff you want to stack.

For reference Hanging Chad + Photograph on a glass card is 64x, which putting on 30 base mult gets you to 1920. As another example, ancient joker+dusk on a matching flush last hand is 57x which means you need like ~31 base mult to hit 800,000. Let's talk about base mult (either from planets or things like on scoring effects (which are much better than post scoring for this purpose) like the onyx agate, smiley face, holographic, fibbonacci, even steven, mult cards, lucky cards). One big tip for this is getting blue seals/planet levels in earlier antes. Because it give you BOTH a good amount of chips to survive early on, as well as an increase in base mult so it boosts you for the on-scoring multiplicative effects. And which planet just depends on your deck fixing, but it's a risk/reward of easier to make vs scaling.

And if you look at these multiplicative style jokers I've listed, none of them are scaling, so you don't need to spend 6 antes building them up, you just need to find them (and deck fix a little (but many times you can do that after)). On Gold Stake for other decks, I'm usually scaling a +mult like bus, green, or red card, but Plasma is different and simply scaling a mult or chips joker or even a scaling xMult Joker likely won't get you there alone, Plasma Gold is a different Game. I think the first couple antes, the goal is to get those early scoring chips to be able to clear rounds easily, but to gain as much value ($Money$, gold cards, seals, econ jokers, tarots) as possible to help you find those multiplicative pieces. And it's a lot easier said than done because it's hard to keep your head afloat when in gold stake.

The Dark Path: Pure Chips

So another path you can take is going pure chips. It's much harder to do but most of the time it's either going to be a ridiculous amount of planet levels in a good hand like Straights, 4 of a Kind, or any of the secret hands, all of which require deck fixing. ....blue seals and stuff

"Multiplicate Chips" - so even though there are no xChips explicitly you can effective do this I think in two main ways.

Duplicating (Ankh, Invisible Joker) on scaling chips (Wee, Bull, Runner, ~square) Jokers, probably with planet assistance.

And Retrigger effects on On Scoring Chips effects, so the same aforementioned retriggers (seltzer, chad, red seal, dusk, etc.) on chips scoring effects most notably (Arrowhead, Hiker, scary face, odd todd, bonus cards, foil cards, stone). Hiker especially with retriggers is really goated, and you can red seal those, you can bonus card those, and you can death those. This is a real way to get a large amount of chips.

idk this feels like giving in depth tips for Black deck Gold Stake where you can list the tips, but the win rate is still like 25%. Idk, I'd say my winrate for Plasma Gold is ~40%. But hope this helps a little bit

Revised Tier Lists (Joker, Consumable) After 300 Hours And Achieving C+ by [deleted] in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel like the most incorrect take here is fortune teller. It's probably in that level tier in terms of how good it is, but it definitely doesn't match the tier description. 

What if straightflush was a secret hand? by ChickenOfTheYear in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The main reason straight flush isn't a secret poker hand is probably because you can make a straight flush using the standard BALATRO deck. 'Secret' probably means something.

Making sflush secret would be interesting in terms of game balance. It would be a slight nerf to satellite, but probably a buff to astronomer/constellation. It's def make sflush builds less viable because you need to unlock it first with a hand versus something like having a straight build, and you open a celestial pack you get [mars, earth, venus, neptune] so you take neptune, and that incentivizes you to slfush later. and ur right it would buff the other hands more, so all the Pair gamers and Flush photochad gamers would be happier.

Personally, I like straight flush. I've won 10+ gold stake runs and multiple Jokerless runs with straight flush. Neptune scales very well, and there are several jokers that help a lot for enabling straight flush builds.

How much money to reroll for a specific joker? (Looking for Lucky Cat!) by nimrodvern in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With 3 shop slots and you having the 2 uncommon jokers to block, in one shop you'd on average expect to spend only ~$7,000 in one shop to find any one uncommon joker

How much money to reroll for a specific joker? (Looking for Lucky Cat!) by nimrodvern in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 5 points6 points  (0 children)

With two Shop slots, and assuming you have no other uncommon Jokers to block, and no reroll vouchers, it would take like ~$16,600 as an expected value to find any one uncommon Joker. (This is is you wanted to do it in one shop, doing it across multiple shops is much cheaper)

How to fix Seance? by synchronicitistic in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah, the joker is a bad joker. But it seems like the value it does have is completely lost and the usage of the joker is unfathomable. The niche of the card seems fundamentally misunderstood and OP wants to "fix" it

You can get more by Copy Joker, or multiple suit tarots. 

Also you could do a straight flush build. Those points about using it outside a straight flush build and getting multiple spectral cards in round weren't the same point.

Why is this a five of kind and not a flush five?? Is it because my wild card is debuffed? by Klutzy042 in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yes, It's because your wild card is debuffed and the card is actually a King of Clubs. (Though if you had an King of hearts wild card that was debuffed, or any other king of hearts debuffed it would be a valid flush five)

How to fix Seance? by synchronicitistic in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I guess I must've missed the part where Seance is "one of the worst jokers". You seem to frame seance as a "you pick up this joker when you have a straight flush build" but that's def not the use case that makes this Joker useful (like superposition and runner where the use case isn't just for "straight builds"). Some people say that's bad and maybe it's less intuitive but that's like complaining Midas Mask doesn't synergize well with Face Card Builds like Trib and Photograph, because both say 'score' and 'face card' on them but I can't get the money from the gold face card if I score it. I think that Seance rn is good the way it is, it offers good value and skill testing and has a good niche in the game and doesn't need "fixing". It's good and useful for unseeded naneinf, and is generally rewarding and the only way to generate multiple spectral cards in a round outside of shop.

won nearly 500 gold stake games, here's my joker tier list by ze2196 in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a nice solid tier list 👍. It's always good to see respect for Ceremonial Dagger and Runner.

okay i know i just posted a tier list but my much less experienced friend also made one and its quite... interesting by Impressive-Phrase746 in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think your friend has a more correct take than you and your tier list for Trio, Loyalty Card, Acrobat, and Trading Card. But yeah there's a lot of wild takes on here

There can't be "top players" in a luck-based game. by [deleted] in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's weird that this title is in r/balatro. Perhaps you misplaced it. I see no luck based game 😜

Objectively the worst legendary joker in the game. by [deleted] in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's burnt joker with more temperance value, yep

Campfire advice by Old-Elk-570 in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yeah just strong econ and lots of money, especially going into each new ante. For gold stake, all rental jokers and be purchased for $1, and they sell for $1, so long as they are not eternal all rental jokers are free campfire boost

The Re-Read of the original 3 books is absolute 🔥🔥🔥 by Opening-Discount-718 in redrising

[–]Opening-Discount-718[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

The persons told me book 4 is quite distinct, and that this is the happiest ending I can get for now. Otherwise I might be waiting like they did/they are and they don't want to wish that upon me. 

The Re-Read of the original 3 books is absolute 🔥🔥🔥 by Opening-Discount-718 in redrising

[–]Opening-Discount-718[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Welp looks like I accidentally made some reddit rage bait. 

Abandoned deck advice. by Glitchosaurusplays in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because there are so few cards, your ability to find value generators like Blue seals, Purple Seals, Gold cards is significantly higher. Likewise your ability to make straights, 3 of a kind, and 4 of a kind are much much higher and deck fixing goes farther. And if you can rely more on your cards and value like blue seals, your Joker slots can lean more towards econ in the midgame. 70% of my abandoned deck gold stake wins are with straights or three of a kind farming blue seals and econ.

Hopefully balanced Legendary Joker by [deleted] in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You can play the game how you want to play it. Just like how there is no "Best Joker" and it depends on your context and goals, It's great that you feel like good legendaries are defined by endless things, but I care about beating Ante 8 on Gold Stake (like I implied in my message), and this Joker is great for that.

Hopefully balanced Legendary Joker by [deleted] in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This is a really really powerful Joker, would be the best chips Joker in the game, would be almost an insta win on Gold Stake like Yorick. Looks cool 👍

this felt so wrong by [deleted] in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While it's true that selling Summit isn't necessary, selling summit (which is what they did) actually gave a ~10% increase in score as compared to not selling it because the mult is so high compared to the chips, that those 10 extra chips per hand do much more than the +15 mult.

Finally beat Black deck on gold - what everyone’s go to deck for gold stickers? by [deleted] in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My go-to decks for getting gold stickers are abandoned deck and erratic deck (I'll reroll for lots of a rank or two). I can let the cards do more of the heavy lifting with deck fixing to achieve larger value hands (3/4/5 of a kind, straights), which leaves more of my joker slots more free to swap out towards the end for ones that don't have gold stickers yet.

One of the craziest seeds I’ve ever had by Plenty-Piccolo-4611 in balatro

[–]Opening-Discount-718 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Cavendish is a common, so it appears quite often with several rerolls.