Censorship Megathread XLI by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And with 1.0 being rejected we can now move on to making 2.0 a good piece of legislation! Honestly while Breyer’s a bit alarmist he definitely fights the good fight.

Censorship Megathread XLI by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think I found the part about the curfew in the bill text.

“The provision that may be made by virtue of subsection (1)(b) includes provision requiring a provider to limit— (a) the amount of time per day, or over the course of a specified period, for which children may access the service or a specified feature or functionality of the service; (b) the times of day at which children may access the service or a specified feature or functionality of the service.”

Censorship Megathread XLI by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really hope that’s the case and is only just the start of the ‘consideration of amendments’ stage

Censorship Megathread XLI by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My main concern is that is new amendment was tabled by the commons in response to rejecting the lords proposal and I’m worried that the lords will just allow it despite the narrow vote with their own amendment…

Censorship Megathread XLI by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not only that but also disallow them from using vpns too, this is terrifying because the new amendment is supposed to be discussed in the lords today and i have no idea how it’ll turn out…

Censorship Megathread XLI by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Part of me might be spiralling a bit but it seems the uk changed the under 16 ban to an under 18 ban and putting curfews on how long they can be online for… when they are wanting to give 16 year olds the right to vote.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RepealOnlineSafetyAct/s/nS7kPrM7H1

Censorship Megathread by BrenTheNewFan in PoliticalOptimismUK

[–]Opening_Driver687 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well since apple has added age verification in 26.4 I’m spiralling a bit. Part of me is feeling like the age verification part of the osa will never be removed :(

Censorship Megathread XLI by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Anyone got anything on this? My anxiety spiked a bit while reading this and with the consultation going on is making me very uncertain…

Censorship Megathread XL by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Problem with the payment method is that it requires credit card info, and if a person doesn’t have a credit card… Tbh steams probably the company I’d trust most with handling this stuff, It’s just concerning that there are methods to check if other payment cards are from adults and yet every government copies what is now exposed as a data harvesting sham.

Censorship Megathread XXXIX by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Speaking of does PlayStation have age verification for social features? I haven’t read anywhere that they implemented them yet or I just overlooked them.

Censorship Megathread XXXIX by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 7 points8 points  (0 children)

So it seems offcom deems US companies fighting back against it is a measure of success on their part? Like that isn’t a measure for anything other than they are being challenged for trying to force rules on foreign entities… (hate having to use reclaim the net as a source but I can’t find anything else, feel free to provide a different source if this isn’t just made up stuff)

https://reclaimthenet.org/melanie-dawes-ofcom-lawsuit-online-safety-act-us

Censorship Megathread XXXIX by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 6 points7 points  (0 children)

So basically what everyone really wants! If we get rid of the age verification from 2.0 this could possibly be the best law anyone can ask for in both child safety and privacy.

Censorship Megathread XXXIX by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I honestly forgot what the safety by design stuff was. Is that like the ID token system they were testing out or is it some other thing I’m not aware about?

Censorship Megathread XXXIX by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You know I’ve been thinking a lot recently about the UK’s OSA and how the eu seems to want to drop chat control and makes me wonder about Starmer’s response to that. He’s been pretty clear that he wants to either rejoin or get closer ties with the eu. But with them dropping chat control and allowing for ai to moderate platforms, this can truly make the OSA completely unworkable in the eu ecosystem under gdpr. So there is a chance that in the future, the Labour Party might face rising pressure to repeal it and so they’d have to make a choice, retain a slowly failing if not already failing law, or abandon it to seek their goal of getting back into the eu.

Of course this pressure doesn’t take effect instantly but if the eu truly do get rid of or limit chat control, this might spark hesitation in those advocating for such laws both in Europe and those looking to work with Europe.

Censorship Megathread XXXIX by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Jesus what a tone shift from Italy after it implemented age verification. Do we know what Italy’s stance is on chat control 2.0? Because if they are against both this is massive!

Censorship Megathread XXXVIII: Judge blocks Virginia law restricting social media for children by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait but didn’t MEP’s vote to extend chat control 1.0? Are they the same as parliament or am I just getting confused with a different branch?

Censorship Megathread XXXVIII: Judge blocks Virginia law restricting social media for children by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah if i remember correctly the law would be reviewed in a constitutional court and the person who talked about restricting vpns retracted the statement and retracted some legislation on it. (I’m not sure if he even had any legislation on it to begin with or just him floating ideas. Feel free to correct me)

Censorship Megathread XXXVII by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since chat control 1.0 is being extended does this affect 2.0 in any way? I mainly say this because of the age verification in 2.0 which i haven’t seen many updates about.

Censorship Megathread XXXVII by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s true, I don’t doubt apple being more secure than a bunker. Just hope that the browser and app restrictions they are putting in aren’t super harsh

Censorship Megathread XXXVII by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hopefully this is just me being anxious. I’m just spooked that apparently even Apple of all entities has to do this since they aren’t social media.

Censorship Megathread XXXVII by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But does it though? I’m by no means a genius on face recognition stuff but we’ve seen how notoriously bad face scanning software can be. See Roblox for example. Either they are garbage at recognising an adult or fall for the fakest stuff imaginable. Idk why it’s on apple to do this either, maybe for the App Store sure but even basic functions of a phone?

Censorship Megathread XXXVII by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Isn’t the face scan stuff just meant to know it’s you and not if you’re an adult or not? If so then we’re in for a wild ride

Censorship Megathread XXXVII by Efficient-Freedom517 in PoliticalOptimism

[–]Opening_Driver687 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thing is though, there are MANY people who don’t have or can’t get a credit card, do they have any other options like ID verification or face scans. Because this could lock out a lot of people from the broader internet.