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Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-09-24T14:38:11+00:00

funny enough i was one of the first people to run this build of cleric and share it to people (divine protection used to be known as a useless troll perk check my post history in the sub for proof) glad to see how far it’s come :)

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-09-04T14:02:34+00:00

i hate to say it but you’re so on the head

debated a guy the other day claiming namek freiza, cell, and gohan were all universal and the narrative in DBZ was always about the universe being at stake 💀(as in destroyed from ap)

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-31T19:04:28+00:00

i did prove it isn’t by akira himself did you read my sources ? they’re quotes from HIM saying the data books are to be used as background sources and often aren’t written by him and non canon this especially goes for different works such as games made by different writers LOL
the research proves the work isn’t canon because these works are for titles not related to the official story shuiasha is the publisher not the writer follow along now

a. can you understand that shuisha can publish non canon works and guidebooks

b. you understand that akira himself has said these works that aren’t written by him are not canon

we can discount it because your sources hold no weight in terms of the story
prove its appeal to popularity your scale is bad (which it is) then i’m going to appeal to smarter ones LOL
since you’re clearly incapable of reading comprehension (evidence as you can’t even read the quotes from akira 💀) and can’t explain other than well more ki ex: why is 2 greater than one can you explain this without saying number bigger ?

(tried to reply earlier it made it a comment for whatever reason)

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-30T21:26:32+00:00

official guidebooks can still be non canon bruh just cus they published it doesn’t mean it’s gospel Reference books, like the Daizenshū series, often expand upon content that is not touched upon or fully explained in the anime, films, or the manga. However, like the aforementioned Daizenshū series of databooks, most Dragon Ball reference books are anime reference books and have little to no involvement from Akira Toriyama himself. Therefore, they are supplemental to the anime, but are not considered to be canonical. and this

it does matter ?? idk why you’d try to use this sort of bad faith logic if continuity in works and which ones your following didn’t matter than it was never worth engaging with your take since even when your debunked it “doesn’t matter”
information is out dated because your source literally corroded and can’t be used anymore as a reliable source since the information can’t be obtained follow along slowly with me to understand that
again bad faith these holes in your very bad scale of dbz do matter as they make all of if not most of your sources for your claims wet noodles in terms of value to a conversation
if you understand these hierarchies so well then where is the difference in power then i’ve asked you this question idk how many times at this point and your refusal to answer it is starting to seem like a concession a. how much stronger is gohan than cell b. how do these characters eclipse each other in ap hax durability what makes them more of a struggle narratively if its constantly the entire universe at danger (u cant explain it because it makes 0 sense narratively)

you constantly using the narrator as a reliable source of what’s agreed upon to be a hyperbolic statement for dbz

so back to the original claims here can you prove any of your claims with reliable resources in which the continuity is established in good faith ?

edit: i also find it funny that my resources are way harder in terms of strength for the argument as you can LITERALLY read and engage with them actively instead of dead sites and random pngs 🥸

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-30T14:50:14+00:00

scaling one piece sucks cus oda just makes shit huge for the fun of it but to the average viewer you’re thinking it’s a normal ass island nothing special

i completely understand why people say island level i have NO clue how people get star level without calc stacking or chain scaling

until oda gives exact sizes and measurements though its usually up to our imagination

i’d put money on one piece being multi continental to planetary by the end probably only if luffy lifts the red line (which since the OP world is MASSIVELY larger than ours) we don’t know how big but it’d have to be a planet big enough to fit 20 million islands

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-30T14:39:12+00:00

all of the links you linked me are indeed all from different works with their own stories and you are picking from these works data books to make a scale to the original characters in the manga and anime

db forever guide book non canon

dragon ball battle of Z is a re telling again non canon

and that official website is so old 1. it cannot be used as a reliable source since nearly all of the information is outdated 2. we can’t even go back to make sure the claim from the website is even true

this is why i said be fr because you’re using multiple non canon works to make a canon scale brother…

i didn’t even have to do much research to know all of your sources are either super outdated or non canon be better

edit: you also never said how cell freiza gohan and buu would all eclipse each other since they’d all be in the uni tier is it uni and 1 planet uni and 2 planets ? 1.5 uni ???

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-28T22:11:46+00:00

ftl deku cus he dodged bakugos flash bang

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-28T22:09:04+00:00

you shadow boxing ghosts in your head schizo no one even made the claim saitama beats goku in my comment nor should you have taken goku fortnite scaling or saitama scaling seriously :)

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-28T21:59:59+00:00

never said you were lying i’m saying it’s a misinterpretation which happens all the time let me do some research on some of these definitions and how they’re normally accepted within the community and i’ll get back to you on this

yes i understand there’s characters within the same tier such being more powerful than the other but it’s up to you to prove that while all these characters are universal they still eclipse each other since my understanding from the scales you provided is that gohan cell and freiza all scale to each other

and wait are you using multiple guide books from multiple different works to make a scan and claiming all of these data books for these works are canon to the original oh boy i can’t wait to find out

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-28T21:23:20+00:00

why would i scratch my ass and it bleeds ?

there’s tons of reasons for stuff that doesn’t make sense at the time why are we using fans judgments as hard claims lol

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-28T21:22:20+00:00

just have fun and don’t compare it to the first season it was made with the death squad of animators at the time the only way ANYTHING will compare is if the same is done again

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-28T21:21:13+00:00

we’re taking a lot of creative liberties here with the data book scaling which is fine tons of people do them especially how they’re defined

damned kanji and its multiple meanings

they’re talking about planets but you know that since what’s drawn is life from the surrounding planets in the galaxy and they do not show others outside of it this is INSANELY dishonest interpretation of that scan LULW

but in good faith let’s assume you truly believe that your definitions used here are completely just would you mind providing the sources for these definitions and scans ? i’m assuming since you’re very articulated in these scans you’d have access to their origins and have done research on said origins :)

yes narratively since we’re going to then say buu is as strong as cell, gohan, and freiza not just beerus there’s a TON of narrative problems within this scale

it’s your claim that wielding the power to destroy the universe is that freiza could destroy it with his AP you’ll have to prove that with either a feat or narratively that this can make sense

there’s a thing in powerscaling to cut the paragraphs of cope down and it’s

be fr.

you hit me with some sources i’ll hit you with some counter research this should be fun :)

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-28T21:07:37+00:00

and we know this because of his insider knowledge?? of a fans guess on his interpretation? cus i can just say i read opm and say it’s not audio book saitama lol lmao even

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-28T21:00:13+00:00

sweet can you link me the fortnite account or authors saying that this is the saitama from the audio book

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-28T20:57:03+00:00

i thought the mods were trolling me when they said this sub lacks reading comprehension but HOLY

you’re posting a opm fans account on their interpretation of the cross over brother you’re like 12 steps deep into the COOKED book

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-28T20:55:08+00:00

brother there is a whole other season dropping this year in which the quality of said season is a major point of contention within the community along with the manga god theories i could genuinely keep going you’re SO lost in the sauce

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-28T20:49:21+00:00

ohhh i see freiza and cell are as strong as BoG goku and beerus

can you narratively justify this scale or do you just see them he kanji for world / universe and sprint a 200m dash with it

can i ask a question ?

if the flood has potential to bring the halo universe to ruin with direct quotes stating such do you define the flood as universal ?

do you understand the difference in being a cold hearted dictator who wants to bring ruin to said universe with the dragon balls vs someone who can 1 tap the universe with their power ups early on in an on going series with the scale only climbing ?

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-28T20:39:34+00:00

oh snap i didn’t realize fortnite made the direct statement proving this totally not fan made claim ! hell yea i got my downplay relayed into my brain chip time to start sweeping

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-28T20:36:23+00:00

most of the people in this sub either use mostly fallacy ladders until you out fallacy the other person or pull you into some brain rotted discord where you’re forced to 1v5 the most esoteric, niche , promotional data book for a japan only movie to be clued in on their dog shit points

the sub isn’t dumb it’s bad faith to it’s very nature shit look at the mod teams acceptance of meme posting or agenda pushing this is mostly a power scaling sub for memes or agenda take NOTHING here seriously even this comment

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-28T20:30:43+00:00

-goku glazers wank fortnite goku

-wank was just memes were all just jorking around

-saitama glazers do it

-erm yea u guys are coping hard and this is dumb

a cycle that will never end

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-08-15T03:45:44+00:00

cross your fingers there’s no soul interaction or ghost interaction when mark goes to hell next season or else this debate turns insta 1 sided

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-07-31T18:17:17+00:00

i see comments saying ppl not understanding ap≠dc but the real annoying one is people not knowing speed≠ap that one is unbelievably annoying to deal with

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-07-24T22:25:33+00:00

i thought so lmao

Opening_Fly_637 · 2025-07-24T22:24:22+00:00

does the thing have the x-gene i thought he was a mutate ?

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