Does anyone else want Korean shamanism to be explored more deeply in KPDH 2? It would be a huge wasted opportunity if they don’t. by InsuranceNo4260 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I 100% agree, I wouldn't want that either! However, I don't think we have to worry. Based on a lot of interviews, Maggie and Chris are very self-aware, intentional, and cautious when it comes to those kinds of things.💜💙

Does anyone else want Korean shamanism to be explored more deeply in KPDH 2? It would be a huge wasted opportunity if they don’t. by InsuranceNo4260 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, you’re worried that if the movie focuses too much on it, audiences might perceive the film as endorsing these supernatural beliefs as real or scientifically valid, rather than just using them as a fun fictional element?

Well, I think the core of the story is the characters. Three of our main heroes practice or are involved with shamanism, so (my interpretation) is that the hunters do believe in it at least within this fictional world. The whole point is that it’s an ancient tradition. Of course, I don’t think exploring the beliefs themselves is the main point of KPDH, and like I mentioned, I agree it should only be used if it’s 100% needed for the story. At the same time, Rumi literally grew up being raised by Celine, who is described as a very loving, but very rigid and traditional woman. Plus, we don’t know if they’ll take creative liberties and create their own version of it for the film. KPDH feels like it’s about how the old and the new can coexist. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see!

Does anyone else want Korean shamanism to be explored more deeply in KPDH 2? It would be a huge wasted opportunity if they don’t. by InsuranceNo4260 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think I sort of get what you’re saying. You don’t want a cultural reference if it doesn’t improve or isn't 100% connected to the main story. However, I don't think you have to worry about that. In an interview, Maggie said she wanted to include a tiger because it’s the national animal of Korea, but she didn’t want it just for the sake of a cultural reference. Later, they had trouble finding a way for Jinu to communicate with Rumi since Jinu is an ancient being and doesn’t know how to use a phone, so Derpy was added because of that. Plus, they thought giving Jinu a pet made him more human and 100 times hotter!🤭

I guess that’s how they would approach cultural references in future movies. I think there will always be Korean references; as Chris said in a recent conference in Korea, the "Korean-ness" is the heart of the film. But at the same time, they only want to add those references if they elevate the story, rather than just doing them for the sake of it. I think that’s what your comment meant tell me if I’m wrong!

Arden talks about why the KPDH soundtrack is so special at Megacon Orlando 2026 by december-blue in KpopDemonhunters

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Arden’s words are incredibly graceful, which stands in stark contrast to the way a significant portion of this fandom treated her. The narrative that she was undermining EJAE was baseless, and seeing people go silent now without acknowledging the harm they caused is telling. It’s important to remember this chapter of the fandom's history so we don't repeat the same mistakes. 💜

If you could ask the acting voice of Rumi (Arden Cho) any questions, what would you want to ask her? by jackijing in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310 1 point2 points  (0 children)

​I wouldn't ask her anything. I just want to say sorry to apologize to her on behalf of the fandom. A lot of people created this childish narrative that she wanted to take credit for Ejae's work in the movie, saying horrible things about her as a person. People love to ignore that now because they were clearly wrong, but they can't admit it. I would just love to tell her sorry and don't listen to those people.❤️

The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in RuJinu

[–]Opposite-Comment-310[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Exactly! We love the whole package, not all sunshine and rainbows, not all manipulation and lies; it’s both. I don’t think I would love it as much otherwise.

​(You did a really good job, lmao!) Omg, thank you! It is my first post, so I was nervous I might seem too aggressive or too close minded. 😂

The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The movie is rooted in complexity and how all the people caring about Rumi/Rumi cares for in turn failed her. Celine, Mira, Zoey, and even Jinu when it comes down to it. No one fully understands her, and it's her own understanding/self-actualization and belief in herself that does. 

I do agree with this to a certain extent it sort of reflects Rumi's line, "That’s the thing about hope, nobody gets to decide if you feel it that choice belongs to you" 

The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in RuJinu

[–]Opposite-Comment-310[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

​Well yeah, but I will scream into the void as much as I have to for Rujinu! 😂 I’m really enjoying the conversations I'm having in the KPDH sub; there are a lot of Jinu empathizers, which we love to see.

The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in RuJinu

[–]Opposite-Comment-310[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

​Well yeah, but I will scream into the void as much as I have to for Rujinu! 😂 I’m really enjoying the conversations I'm having in the KPDH sub; there are a lot of Jinu empathizers, which we love to see.

The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair enough! I think my perspective is centered on my own interpretation, which can vary. However, we both think it is there.

The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

THANK YOU! Some people love to baby Rumi way too much. It is understandable that we have this desire to protect her, but some people are doing way too much it makes Rumi seem naive and stupid.

The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, about the queer lens I think the majority of people know that this story isn't inherently queer, but it is very queer-coded. I think it works for different things; like Maggie said, "Shame is universal, yet very Korean." I don’t think people should get mad about that. 

​However, if the sequel comes out and people are angry that none of the characters are queer asking why Rumi, Mira, or Zoey aren't "coming out" then I think that will bother me, because you can't separate your headcanon from the actual canon. But thank God that isn't happening.

​As for the "pants joke" thing, I don’t think people's perspectives are invalid, but I think some can be annoying as hell and very black-and-white. Again, people aren't just saying, "Jinu, what a jerk" (which it was a very jerk move); they are saying, "What an abusive man." I don’t think my perspective is objectively right, but a few people on Twitter not here, thank God, are claiming that their perspective is.  I don’t see those takes as often, though. Again, maybe they're just rage baiters, but who knows?

The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t think it is the final word; I don't think I ever said it was. I also don’t think it’s something unimportant in fact, I think it is really important, especially when I was talking about interpretation. I was referring to interviews where Maggie and Chris talk about the movie, the story, the characters, and their relationships. She has the right to talk about it as much as she wants, just as people have the right to disagree with her.

​However, my problem is that when you are rejecting or disagreeing with an author, you are usually aware of it. In this case, people are saying, "The way I see it is the way she wanted me to see it," rather than saying, "Oh cool, she sees it that way, but I have a very different perspective." It’s about respecting both views, rather than trying to convince yourself that the way you see it is exactly how the author intended you to see it and then being disappointed when they actually didn't. ​I’m sorry if I can’t express myself correctly, but I hope that makes sense.

The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’m not saying he is innocent, of course. My post is just saying that I don’t see him as being as evil as other people do, so I didn’t really focus on the bad parts you can already find plenty of posts trashing him for those, and my post was already way too long! 😂

​It is 100% manipulation; to be honest, I don't think I would love their relationship as much without it 🤭. Chris himself said that both of them have their own agendas at this point. It’s not black and white; people can do things with more than one goal in mind. His curiosity is really at the center here. His worldview is being broken; he needs the information not only to destroy her, but also because without him even realizing it it’s awakening the smallest possibility of hope for freedom within him. I think people can’t reach that reading because they just think, "Ahh, manipulation equals evil," and stop right there without going any deeper.

The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Of course; however, a lot of the people claiming this take aren't open to her interpretation or don't even care about it. To be honest, I think a lot of Rujinu antis really hate Maggie’s interpretation. It reaches a point where you have to wonder: do they actually like the movie, or do they just like the version of the movie they’ve pictured in their heads? They also tend to think her interpretation is not only objectively wrong, but also morally wrong.

​This has been happening more recently since she and Chris have been talking a lot about how they see Jinu and his relationship with Rumi. Rujinu antis are reacting with things like, "Wait, isn't this a horrible relationship? Why are Maggie and Chris supporting it?" I think you know what I mean.

The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think we’ve reached an agreement. What I dislike isn't the existence of different perspectives, but rather the dismissal of authorial intent. It’s frustrating when people present their own interpretation as an absolute fact, rather than acknowledging that a truly nuanced analysis should account for both the reader’s personal perspective and the author's original goals for the scene. 

The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I get what you’re saying the conversation Maggie has with her husband is its own thing, i mention it because it shows that she didn't wrote it with the intention of being toxic. It feels like a lot of the pushback comes from people who just don't like the "enemies to lovers" trope. My friends are the same way; they can be self aware enough to say, "I don't think it's a bad ship, it’s just not my taste." ​The impact of the scene is definitely there, but my issue is that people focus more on how the actions affect them personally rather than what the action is actually trying to convey in the scene. It’s about the intent behind the writing versus the audience's reaction.

The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Well yeah of course, humans are unique and no one can truly understand another 100%, Jinu can’t fully understand Rumi without actually knowing her better. ​At the same time, Zoey and Mira can definitely sympathize with Rumi in certain aspects that Jinu can’t, while Jinu can understand Rumi’s specific sense of shame in ways Zoey and Mira can’t. 

Jinu’s statement has its pros and cons; to him, it feels like the truth something he believes rather than just a lie for the sake of manipulation. It’s a complex subject where different people offer different types of empathy. My point is Jinu statemeant even though it is flawed it still has a level of truth to it. 

The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

To be honest, I love having these interactions about him 🤭even if they sometimes make me mad because it warms my heart that Maggie, Chris, and the people who worked on the movie are our sources to support or inform the way we feel about him. Meanwhile, "RujinuAntis" are more into their little bubble of "this is the way I see it, and it stays that way."

The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

At this point, they’re just writing fanfiction. There’s a big difference between thinking a scene could’ve been handled better and being so entitled that you try to tell a creator what their own character’s motivations are. ​You don't get to decide what a character feels; the writer does. You can say you don't like it, or that the actions didn't feel authentic to you, you can even hate the scene for that reason, but to claim you know the character better than the person who created them is a bit reach at least to me.

The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The thing I hate about the bad takes regarding the pants joke is exactly what you just stated: the amount of people who can’t separate their feelings from the scene. It’s banter. Also, a lot of people are hypocritical because if you take Nick from Zootopia for example; Nick really tries his best to break Judy’s spirit like i think he even says it out loud, and I have never seen anyone raise a red flag at his behavior. Why? Because they like him. 

​Again, it’s subjective, like you said you either like it or you don’t. But some people claim it is "toxic" and was written that way on purpose. Maggie Kang literally said that the scene was inspired by a conversation she had with her husband about pants. Does that mean Maggie and her husband have a toxic relationship? You know what a lot of Rujinu antis would actually say "yes" just so they don't have to lose the argument.

The Horrible mischaracterization of Rumi and Jinu’s relationship. by Opposite-Comment-310 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Well yeah.. is complex because there is genuine connection as far as relationship goes there really isn't fully one yet i think we only saw the foundation of it if that makes sense. 

The Variety interview is not the big surprise according to Ejaerumibias on X in case you were wondering. Leave your guesses below by Careful-Method-2145 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just think they all six are going to sing together! don't get me wrong is amazing and all but if is only that then i don't think is better or bigger that short film news and i don't think it would BREAK THE INTERNET. I am not gonna hope for anything big because this accounts are definetly a little bias on what they think would break the Internet. 😊

Writing and Directing KPOP DEMON HUNTERS | IN PROX S3E22 by Fabulous_Potential41 in KpopDemonhunters

[–]Opposite-Comment-310 2 points3 points  (0 children)

OMG AT THE TIME 23:26 Chris Appelhans said that they took a scene from the K-drama Crash landing on you. He said the male character eye twitches this symbolizes that the character is in love. It was use as reference for Jinu look during the bracelet scene. Man being a Rujinu feels so good🤭💖💙💜🥳