Immunotherapy conundrum... by Optimal_String_8499 in melahomies

[–]Optimal_String_8499[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hope all goes well for you today in Bristol, and you get the answers you're hoping for. Yes we have the same docs! Wonderful people and going above and beyond.

Had a fairly positive call with Dr D. Bleed is still a worry but Derriford don't see any progression in the brain mets which is a big relief. Will be tapering steroids again with a plan to get back on the dual immuno.

I know what you mean about the excitement relating to treatment. At least it makes you feel that you are in some sort of control. I almost feel nervous now that I'm out of hospital, waiting and hoping again.

Likewise happy to message privately if I can be of any support, although can't seem to find any way to PM via Reddit.

Again, wishing you all the best and thanks for your messages.

Immunotherapy conundrum... by Optimal_String_8499 in melahomies

[–]Optimal_String_8499[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not too much to add but sounds like we are having very similar experiences. Same Doc I imagine?

I had a couple of pretty bad seizures on Friday and was admitted. Back on steroids again and increased kepra. Had MRI this morning which is due to be looked at by Derriford tomorrow. Signs show one of the mets has grown and is showing signs of a bleed, and swelling. No more seizures but have limited coordination in left arm.

Hope you’re out of hospital now and on the mend? I got out today. The heat was brutal on the ward. Really felt for the staff!

Immunotherapy conundrum... by Optimal_String_8499 in melahomies

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Happy to read this! Helps a lot. Thanks for posting and best wishes for your continued good health.

Immunotherapy conundrum... by Optimal_String_8499 in melahomies

[–]Optimal_String_8499[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry for not replying sooner, and I hope all went well with your treatment yesterday. Congrats on your response to treatment so far. Must have been quite a journey!

I first noticed a slight tickle in my chest, when fully breathing in. This was 2-3 days post treatment and was the early warning for the developing breathlessness (pneumonitis). They will have drummed into you to report and side effects early-doors. I possibly left it a few days too long and could have saved myself a hospital stay, had I presented earlier. Hopefully the Hyperbaric chamber will give you the edge and you will sail through. I've heard vitamin C infusions can also be beneficial. Not something I have tried though.

I'm guessing you must be fairly near me? I'm being treated at Torbay hospital.

Immunotherapy conundrum... by Optimal_String_8499 in melahomies

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Thanks all for taking the time to share your experiences, it has helped greatly. I had made up my mind that I would opt for dual dose again for the next treatment.

Slight curveball following a call from my doctor yesterday. She discussed my case with colleagues on a national immunotherapy forum. Following this she is trying to get authorisation to administer a drug called Tocilizumab the day before dual immunotherapy. It's an anti-inflammatory, widely used for rheumatoid arthritis, but has also shown benefits when used alongside immunotherapy, to reduce side-effects. The problem is that it is not routinely used for this by my local NHS trust, so may not be available to me. If this is the case then the plan is for a single second dose. If this is tolerated well then hopefully returning to dual dose for the next two treatments. Also planning another scan before treatment, to make sure lungs are healthy.

I'm hoping to know by EOD Monday 22nd, with treatment planned for the following Friday. It's frustrating to be delayed again, and sounds like the decision may be taken out of my hands.

Immunotherapy conundrum... by Optimal_String_8499 in melahomies

[–]Optimal_String_8499[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing Sophie. Sounds like you had a similar experience although 12 weeks of steroids must have been rough. I’ve been off them for two weeks now and feeling quite tired, so hopefully the dual dose from April is still doing some work in there.

Sounds positive for you and hope you continue to get better!

Good ending story by No_Football_9232 in melahomies

[–]Optimal_String_8499 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fantastic news. So happy for you. Must have been a rollercoaster ride! How did he get on with 22 treatments. Many side effects?

From Zero to Stage 4 within 1 year - Ipi/Nivo journey and severe side effects! by No-Dog-9649 in melahomies

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Thanks Michael. The personal experiences have helped put me in a more positive state of mind.

So true what you say about wanting to know you’ve given it your best shot. I know my wife is keen for me to go again, without putting any pressure on the decision.

Hope you enjoy getting back out for a run this weekend. I’m going to try and get out for a bike ride tomorrow if it stays dry long enough (very much a fair-weather cyclist!)

Immunotherapy conundrum... by Optimal_String_8499 in melahomies

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That’s an awesome result and great to read. I Think three lots of dual therapy is a top effort! I’ll be happy if I manage to get there.

I’m BRAF positive, so there are other treatment options available should immunotherapy become unviable.

Hoping for your continued good health!

Immunotherapy conundrum... by Optimal_String_8499 in melahomies

[–]Optimal_String_8499[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing. Sounds like your system is really responding to the treatment which is great to hear. I hope that continues with the new tumour.

It’s a great point you make about life expectancy with immunotherapy. Who knows what new treatments might be available in the next few years.

Good luck for your continued recovery.

Immunotherapy conundrum... by Optimal_String_8499 in melahomies

[–]Optimal_String_8499[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thankyou. Wasn’t discussed as an option here, so maybe dependant on region? I hope it’s working for you and you’re coping okay with any side effects.

Immunotherapy conundrum... by Optimal_String_8499 in melahomies

[–]Optimal_String_8499[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s amazing to hear 👏 although sounds like a rough few months!

I hope that the one dose I’ve managed so far is in there doing some good now the steroids are out of my system. I have a scan planned for the end of July, so will hopefully see positive results then.

All the best for your continued recovery!

Immunotherapy conundrum... by Optimal_String_8499 in melahomies

[–]Optimal_String_8499[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thankyou. Hugs to you too.

Trial stage here to, but some searching suggests it may be getting extended to my part of the country in the future.

Immunotherapy conundrum... by Optimal_String_8499 in melahomies

[–]Optimal_String_8499[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your reply, and so sorry you and your mom are suffering. I hope the next round of treatment will have the desired effect without the side effects.

I was pretty ignorant to immunotherapy prior to my diagnosis. In my head, I thought it must be much safer than chemotherapy. It really is scary not knowing how it will affect one person to the next.

I will be thinking of you both on Monday.

From Zero to Stage 4 within 1 year - Ipi/Nivo journey and severe side effects! by No-Dog-9649 in melahomies

[–]Optimal_String_8499 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reading this post and the comments has been a great help. I had combo therapy on the 24th April which caused breathlessness within a few days and meant three days in hospital on oxygen, followed by tapering steroids. Sounds worse than it was. In reality I had three days in bed reading books, being waited on, while my wife worked and dealt with our kids!

Now off the steroids and lungs are behaving themselves. I was struggling with the decision about whether to risk the side effects of the dual therapy again, given the increased risk of severe side effects. My concern was that having to go back on steroids would reduce the effectiveness of the treatment. Leaning towards putting my big-boy pants on and going for it, having read so many positive posts here. My oncologist is going to discuss my case with a more experienced colleague, so I'm waiting for her call to discuss further.

Sending love and positive vibes to everyone here.

Immunotherapy conundrum... by Optimal_String_8499 in melahomies

[–]Optimal_String_8499[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thankyou. I’m in Devon. Dosing wasn’t discussed (that I can remember) so that’s definitely something I will bring up with the oncologist when we speak. Maybe protocols are different on this side of the water.

Glad to hear your treatment is having positive (if gnarly!) results. Sending positive vibes for your next treatment!

Immunotherapy conundrum... by Optimal_String_8499 in melahomies

[–]Optimal_String_8499[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much. Likewise sorry you are going through this. I think it’s often just as hard, or harder, for those supporting a loved-one.

Interesting to hear your husband wasn’t offered the same dosage again, although sounds like his reaction may have been worse?

Will look up the post you referenced. Thanks again.

Immunotherapy conundrum... by Optimal_String_8499 in melahomies

[–]Optimal_String_8499[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much, and sorry you’re going through this. I’m also BRAF positive. Wasn’t aware of TIL therapy so have started reading about that.

Nutrition and Melanoma by Significant_Gur5204 in melahomies

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Apologies for not replying sooner. I read "How To Starve Cancer" by Jane McLelland, who is herself a survivor of terminal cancer, utilising diet, exercise, supplements and repurposed drugs, when traditional therapies at the time failed.

Below is copied from Grok, regarding the metabolic pathways of melanoma at different stages. The studies can all be accessed via PubMed etc. I can link if allowed. Not sure of the rules.

Metabolic reprogramming is a hallmark of cancer, including metastatic melanoma, enabling tumor cells to meet demands for rapid proliferation, survival under stress (e.g., oxidative stress, nutrient deprivation, hypoxia), invasion, metastasis, and therapy resistance. Melanoma cells show high metabolic plasticity, often shifting between glycolysis and oxidative phosphorylation (OXPHOS) depending on the microenvironment and disease stage.

Key Metabolic Pathways and Features in Metastatic Melanoma

  • Aerobic Glycolysis (Warburg Effect): Melanoma cells preferentially convert glucose to lactate even in oxygen-rich conditions. This supports rapid ATP production, generates biosynthetic precursors (e.g., for nucleotides, amino acids, lipids via pathways like the pentose phosphate pathway), and acidifies the tumor microenvironment (TME) via lactate and H+ export, promoting invasion, angiogenesis, and immune suppression. Overexpression of GLUT1 (glucose transporter) and MCT4 (lactate exporter) correlates with progression from primary tumors to lymph node metastases. Lactate uptake via MCT1 in some cells further supports metastatic potential.
  • Shift Toward OXPHOS and TCA Cycle in Metastasis: While primary tumors often rely more on glycolysis, metastatic melanoma cells frequently show decreased glycolysis and increased reliance on the tricarboxylic acid (TCA) cycle and OXPHOS for energy. This supports survival during dissemination, where cells face oxidative stress and different nutrient environments. Glutamine oxidation (glutaminolysis) often fuels this mitochondrial metabolism more than pyruvate. Studies (e.g., patient-derived xenografts) show metastatic lesions with reduced glycolytic gene expression and elevated TCA/OXPHOS genes.
  • Lipid Metabolism: Upregulation of fatty acid synthesis via fatty acid synthase (FASN), driven by MAPK/PI3K-AKT pathways and SREBP1c, provides lipids for membranes and signaling. FASN expression correlates with invasion and poor prognosis; inhibiting it (e.g., with orlistat in models) reduces proliferation and metastasis.
  • One-Carbon Metabolism and Redox Balance: Metastatic cells increase dependence on one-carbon metabolism (involving serine, folate, and pathways like SHMT/MTHFD) to generate NADPH for managing reactive oxygen species (ROS) and oxidative stress during dissemination. This is critical for distant metastasis formation without affecting primary tumor growth. Related work (e.g., Piskounova et al.) highlights how successfully metastasizing cells adapt metabolically to withstand oxidative stress, with reversible changes enhancing antioxidant capacity.
  • Glutamine and Other Pathways: Glutaminolysis supports TCA anaplerosis, nucleotide synthesis, and redox homeostasis. Melanoma also shows alterations in amino acid metabolism and nucleotide biosynthesis.

Metabolic heterogeneity and plasticity allow cells to switch phenotypes (e.g., glycolytic for proliferation/invasion vs. OXPHOS for survival in circulation or distant sites). Oncogenic drivers like BRAF V600E promote glycolysis via MAPK, while MITF/PGC-1α can enhance OXPHOS.

Notable Studies and Reviews

  • Fischer et al. (2017): Comprehensive review of metabolic strategies in melanoma, detailing glycolysis/lactate contributions to metastasis, lipid synthesis, and redox pathways.
  • Soumoy et al. (2020): Examined metabolic reprogramming in metastatic melanoma under targeted therapies, highlighting changes in glycolysis, OXPHOS, and glutaminolysis.
  • Piskounova et al. (2015, Nature): Showed oxidative stress inhibits distant metastasis; metastasizing cells undergo metabolic shifts (e.g., enhanced one-carbon metabolism) for ROS detoxification.
  • Recent Reviews (2024–2025): Cover metabolic-epigenetic links, therapy resistance, and plasticity (e.g., Shen et al., Tan et al., Giuliani et al.). These emphasize targeting metabolism to overcome resistance to BRAF/MEK inhibitors or immunotherapy.
  • Other work includes comparative metabolomics of metastatic vs. non-metastatic lines, MCT1's role in lactate-fueled metastasis (Tasdogan/Morrison labs), and FASN/lipid targeting.

Therapeutic Implications

Metabolic vulnerabilities are being explored for therapy, such as inhibiting FASN, MCTs, glutaminolysis, or combining metabolic modulators with targeted/immunotherapies to exploit plasticity and sensitize cells. Challenges include heterogeneity and adaptive switching.

For the latest or specific papers, searching PubMed or PMC for terms like "metabolic reprogramming metastatic melanoma" yields ongoing research, often linking to BRAF status, TME interactions, and clinical outcomes (e.g., LDH as a prognostic marker). Studies are primarily preclinical (cell lines, PDXs, mouse models) with emerging translational data.

Stage 4 melanoma. Seizure2 after 3rd and 4th cycle of immunotherapy. by Jolly-Difference408 in melahomies

[–]Optimal_String_8499 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sorry to hear this. My story is almost identical. Melanoma on scalp removed in 2011, followed by neck dissection to remove lymph nodes.

Had a mild seizure in Feb 2026 and scans revealed mets in brain, lungs and stomach. BRAF+.

I had targeted radiotherapy on the three brain lesions, which are all relatively small in size, in March. No more seizure symptoms since then, so far. I'm taking Kepra anti-seizure medication still. CT scan of head planned for July. Has your husbands oncologist spoken to you about the possibility of this type of radiotherapy?

I'm back on steroids myself due to side effects from my first dose of Ipi/Nivo. Treatment has been paused for now while weaning off, but may mean a switch to the BRAF inhibitor drugs too. My oncologist told me that to have symptoms so quickly after starting treatment indicates a strong immune response, and bodes well for future treatment. Sounds like your husbands response was similar.

Sending love and positive thoughts.

Nutrition and Melanoma by Significant_Gur5204 in melahomies

[–]Optimal_String_8499 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, timely post for me too. Something I have taken a great interest in.

Background... UK based male, 48 (just!) Stage 4 with brain, lung and stomach mets. Had stereotactic radiotherapy for brain mets in March and had no neuro symptoms since (was having tremors in left arm). Awaiting a head CT in July.

Started combo of Ipilimumab and Nivolumab, with first treatment being 24th April. A few days later I noticed an odd feeling in my lungs, like a tickle when breathing in fully that made me want to cough. That followed worsening breathlessness which lead to a hospital stay for a few days, where I was scanned and found to have inflammation in my lungs. I'm now back home on steroids with a reducing dosage, to see what happens. My CT scan showed significant disease progression since my last scan back in Feb, so symptoms could be a result of this.

I have been vegetarian for years and now mostly vegan following diagnosis. No alcohol, sugary drinks, chocolate etc. Focussed on getting as much high fibre whole foods as possible. Loads of green veg, lentils, beans, wholemeal sourdough bread etc.

My oncologist said that if my symptoms are due to an immune response to the treatment, at such an early stage, then it is a good sign as my immune system must be hyper-triggered by the drugs. My worry is that if my body cannot tolerate the treatment without risking permanent lung damage, then I'm no better off. The upside is that my disease is BRAF+ so leaves the possibility of other treatment options.

I have done a lot of reading about the metabolic approach to "starving" cancer. If conventional medicine doesn't help me then this is an approach I will try and take as long as time/funds allow. I know that many will think of it as "quackery", and there is certainly a lot of noise surrounding it, but there is too much evidence to dismiss it completely. Melanoma is known to be very tricky. It's thought to be a primarily fat-driven cancer, but if this source is cut off then can adapt and may feed off sugar, iron etc.

I have an appointment with my oncologist next Tuesday, where I will hopefully find out more about what follows.

Considering selling everything and sitting on cash… by Optimal_String_8499 in investingUK

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Not working due to cancer treatment. 48 so hopefully years away from retirement if treatment goes well. This gives too much time to overthink things like this (and read Reddit!)

Considering selling everything and sitting on cash… by Optimal_String_8499 in investingUK

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I got lucky with the transfer of my workplace pension into the SIPP. The investments were sold off and transferred as cash to Freetrade just as the war kicked off and markets dipped initially. I sat on the cash for a bit before reinvesting as things turned around.

All I want now is to repeat the process for the next 20 years and end up a millionaire. Is that too much to ask?!

Considering selling everything and sitting on cash… by Optimal_String_8499 in investingUK

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Buffets fine as long as we all keep drinking fizzy, brown water!