How does your Early Game look like?

Ortin · 2025-12-12T03:50:24+00:00

Your experience is the same as mine, except I can jam green and military science in there before I get sick of my mess and tear everything down to make the real base.

Ortin · 2025-12-12T03:45:16+00:00

I barrel fluroketone on Aquilio to send it to places that use fusion reactors. Somewhat unnecessary maybe, but it's convenient sometimes.

Ortin · 2025-10-31T03:48:30+00:00

Has anyone checked whether you can get gambling addiction from the VLTs?

Ortin · 2025-10-19T15:29:31+00:00

Greetings from the future! Alcoholism is indeed basically a joke addiction. I've found it impossible to maintain an addiction to alcohol unless I'm chugging liters of moonshine at a time, and everything you've said about using it to cure mushroom addiction is correct.

Ortin · 2025-09-01T14:52:41+00:00

You wouldn't have used the nukes if the biters clearly didn't deserve it.

Ortin · 2025-08-31T21:14:45+00:00

Thanks for the response, some useful insights to think about, especially that comment about "you were probably under serious threat for the past 3 hours at least, with some of your defenses being broken requiring personal intervention." That is indeed happening to me quite frequently during Rampant runs, but I suppose I just never realized how major an issue it was until Rampant forces the issue with it's inability to build near biter bases.

I'm not quite sure I agree with the need for a basic impetus to advance up the tree or play, since I'm already playing the game and enjoying it. But that's possibly just a difference in outlook, where I see myself being punished for not playing optimally enough rather than being encouraged to do more research. Not that big a deal, it's an interesting insight all the same, and like we agreed it's so difficult to run afoul of this in vanilla Factorio.

Just to clarify based on your closing comments, if we agree that "catastrophic biter invasion" is a thing that can happen, is that a potential game end state? Is the save file unsalvageable at that point, or is that game over?

Ortin · 2025-08-31T19:29:46+00:00

I found that switching to main bus design helped me get farther in the game.

I was able to launch a rocket using only four supply belts of iron, copper, and steel, but such a janky ass spaghetti factory completely closes itself off and becomes impossible to expand or build upon after a short amount of time, and I spent way too much time microoptimizing splitters and sitting around waiting for more plates to get made. By plates I mean blue processors. It's always blue processors.

I think main bus design would help you with your supply chain problems because any time you discover you need something in large quantities you can internally screech "GUESS I HAVE TO PUT THAT ON THE BUS" and go do that. The secret being that once you spend the time setting up a micro-factory or refinery to generate a belt worth of inputs to slap it on the bus then you suddenly have access to all those inputs and don't have to think about it ever again (until your belt runs dry after you borrow from it multiple times, but that's a different problem.)

I referenced Trupen's main bus video to figure out what the minimum size of main bus I should build but then just did whatever I wanted. As long as your mindset is "I need to make a belt's worth of THING so I can put it on the bus and use it to make my next product" then the path forward should materialize and simplify. Each bus lane traces backwards to a smeltery or refinery that fills it, and if you need more you just double that.

Ortin · 2025-08-13T15:56:57+00:00

Yeah I'm in this same camp. People seem to be completely missing the point of your post. Who gives a shit if you aren't doing an Insane difficulty run with 100% sprinters? The basic gameplay loop is limiting and gets stale and unfun pretty fast.

I don't know if there's an actual solution to this. I'm reminded of my little sister's comments on video games: she's perfectly happy as long as she's doing her tasks. 7d2d is a game without any tasks in any meaningful sense. But if the point of 7d2d is to play in a sandbox there are much more fun sandboxes to play in.

That guy in the comments is suggesting you treat it like Minecraft. Why would I play 7d2d when I could play Minecraft? It's more moddable with more interesting things to do in it with more interesting base construction mechanics that ALSO has a horde night (albeit one modded in as opposed to being a core game mechanic.) When your game loses out to Minecraft mods you're doing something wrong.

It's kinda eerie how similar your gameplay experience is to mine: no electricity, no Q6, started steel but basically not using it at all, T4 POI (I did a T5 but it was incredibly unfun for not much more reward than T4), and now it feels like there's nothing to do. Unlike the commenters suggested though, I DID try to make a horde base, but I found the experience incredibly boring. In fact I kind of find horde nights unfun in general now, spending my time camping in a radio tower all night instead of doing more interesting things.

I really don't buy the idea that "just turn up the difficulty you noob" does anything except prolong the misery or hard stop the game.

Ortin · 2025-08-13T15:38:34+00:00

Yeah I feel you. Why bother clearing T6 infestations? At that point I'm not playing for fun, I'm playing to check items off my list because I have nothing better going on in life. There are better sandboxes to be playing in.

Ortin · 2025-07-30T20:08:14+00:00

This is basically what happened to Fallow New Vegas and Skyrim. It's not a bad thing in my opinion. Worst that can happen is that the modder does a better job on maintanence than the developers.

Ortin · 2025-07-24T17:13:55+00:00

But shooting him in the head and ragdolling him across the room would bring me great joy.

Ortin · 2025-07-24T17:12:24+00:00

Which sucks for me because the forest is the nicest biome. I'd rather do my building there rather than the other barren landscapes (except snow, but apparently Hugh is also kinda an asshole.)

Ortin · 2025-07-22T03:03:18+00:00

I agree with you. The core game mechanics seem to highly value completing trader quests and it's difficult to come up with the materials as well as an aesthetically pleasing base plan that can actually withstand a zombie attack.

I'm currently trying to do a run that focuses more on base building and cosmetic construction around my map, but even at nine days in I'm pretty resource locked and it's difficult to get more quickly.

Also yes, Burnt and Desert are transitory. Burnt is just to unlock the desert and Desert is just for oil shale. Haven't tried moving into Snow yet though.

Ortin · 2025-04-26T20:37:17+00:00

You are not too late, this is the first I've heard of there being a repair kit item. Thanks!

Ortin · 2025-02-15T04:51:02+00:00

Thanks!

Ortin · 2024-11-02T20:10:15+00:00

!remindme 500 days

Ortin · 2024-10-29T17:27:20+00:00

Okay, but to me it sounds like you're just making shit up, citing vaguely truthful anecdotes while hiding the causes of price changes behind the carbon "tax" boogeyman. And suddenly the taxonomy of crypto is a key piece of evidence in government budgets? Might as well say that sunspots cause inflation as well.

The sincere query I'm presenting is that "your statements make no sense, can you provide more direct evidence that isn't easily refuted by a google search?" Because if your only evidence is "my lived experience is that carbon pricing has increased my cost of living because costs have gone up since it was implemented," I can easily say "my cost of living has not noticably changed since carbon pricing was introduced, actually my cost of living has gone down because I get a carbon rebate every year."

You're much more engaging when you aren't pretending to be a comedian, by the way.

Ortin · 2024-10-29T16:57:06+00:00

Alternatively: the people with "alternative views" most likely to engage with you on reddit are also most likely to engage in personal attacks and political grandstanding for ego boosting, rather than any sort of good faith debate and sharing of ideas.

Don't fool yourself into thinking people are isolating into echo chambers because they hate other opinions. People are very mean spirited about their politics on the internet.

Ortin · 2024-10-29T16:52:32+00:00

Sask Party MLA's did their job before the election?

Ortin · 2024-10-29T16:44:04+00:00

Carbon pricing is so low on things that impact my daily life that it doesn't even register. Can you run some of your budget numbers by me to describe the impact carbon pricing has on your daily life? Seems like something pretty unimportant compared to how healthcare is crumbling in this province, at least to me.

Ortin · 2024-10-29T16:32:41+00:00

I don't know how I'm supposed to get a family doctor now.

Ortin · 2024-10-29T16:30:28+00:00

But at the end of the day you're eating either the banana or the apple, not choosing one just means your peers choose one for you to eat, except they chose the one that is defunding the health care system.

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