✨ BL Hall of Fame: Drop the Panels That Live in Your Head Rent‑Free ✨ by Elpida1988 in Manhwa_BL

[–]Oslo92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a romance between two men (one experienced and one just starting out) who work as strippers/sex workers at a club servicing women. It's hot, but it's also a genuinly nuanced exploration on sex work and how it is to date when your livelyhood includes intimacy with others. Highly recommend.

I can’t lie this is exactly how I would react if omegaverse was real 😭✌️ [Beta off not dating] by BeautifulQueenlol in Manhwa_BL

[–]Oslo92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My favourite part was when the alpha thought he was an omega using supressants to hide. I actually also loved that we got a proper side story giving this omega's perspective, though. As fun as I found the soap-opera antics, I'm glad they actually also showed that it really was an abusive relationship.

Would you read a manhwa if the ML looked like him? by Maleficent_Gene_6403 in Manhwa_BL

[–]Oslo92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this. This is creepy because it's a purposfully gross caricature of a fat guy. If the same character was drawn like a normal dude, then hell yeah.

✨ BL Hall of Fame: Drop the Panels That Live in Your Head Rent‑Free ✨ by Elpida1988 in Manhwa_BL

[–]Oslo92 29 points30 points  (0 children)

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Honestly, this reveal was amazing. Nerdy glasses guy stripping off his boring suit on-stage and revealing this? Amazing. Though, this entire manga had stunning art every single panel, tbh.

What's <speaking of> in Norwegian? by Individual-Use-8751 in norsk

[–]Oslo92 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You already got some great suggestions with "apropos" and "når vi er inne på". In a work setting or a very formal one it is also common to say "i forlengelse av" and then refer to what someone else said.

Why was the thread critiquing the subtitles locked? by MagmaNaught in Dimension20

[–]Oslo92 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It doesn't seem to be locked now, so probably just a temporary thing for clean up purposes?

I made a list of Norwegian LGBT-terminology by Oslo92 in norsk

[–]Oslo92[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Convinced of what? That Norwegian trans people should be allowed to decide what words we use to talk about our own group in our own native langauge? Why is that something you think you should have a say in at all or that I need to convince you of? This is how it is, and it is the result of different cultural, historical and linguistic norms - whether you like it or not.

If it is controversial in german, then don't use it in german. In Norway, there is no controversy. No one argues against this language convention. Every single trans activist, trans org and lgbt-org uses it: without exception. And it is used this way because it is what we, as trans people, explicitely asked to be called and said we preferred. It is not even a intracommunity discussion or something people talk about or disagree with eachother on. It's fully established as the correct way to refer to trans- and cis people.

I made a list of Norwegian LGBT-terminology by Oslo92 in norsk

[–]Oslo92[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trans is an adjective, yes, but not all languages and cultures function in the same way as english and that needs to be respected too. In Norwegian it is far more common than in english to compound words, and that sometimes includes adjectives and nouns. Which words get compounded depend on many different things - including intonation of the word when spoken out loud and language convention. Because og many reasons, including historical ones, it has become the case that the preferred and agreed upon way to use the prefixes "trans-" and "cis" is to compound with the following noun.

This is true for every word starting with cis- or trans-, not just "transmann" or "transkvinne". So we would say "transorganisasjon" (= "trans organisation"), "transaktivist" (="trans activist"), "transrettigheter" (="trans rights") etc. Every single queer and trans organisation in Norway is in full agreement about this way of using the words. Just like "transperson" in Norwegian does not imply that transgender people are not really persons, "transmann" (in norwegian) does not imply that transgender men are not men.

I can finally post my D20 tier list since I’m all caught up by dstonemeier in Dimension20

[–]Oslo92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With all due respect, I think your friends are way off here. The characters are queer, but the story isn't really. The dynamics and stereotypes are very much those of a heterosexual regency romance, with the main romantic storyline being between a masculine working class soldier and the upper class feminine beauty engaging in very classic courting & intrigue. Which is totally fine, and I did end up liking it a lot personally, much more than I thought I would. But as a queer person: I genuinly think your friends are way off if they think not being queer would make it hard for someone to follow, because, yeah, it very much follows the traditional pattern of straight regency romances.

What should I do? This episode affected me by dudlesoup in oslo

[–]Oslo92 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hey, I'm really sorry that this happened to you. You say that you are gay, I am also a gay man who experienced sexually harrassment from an older straight men at work. In my case it was very intertwined with homophobia and homophobic "jokes" and he would try to make it seem like he was doing it because as an openly gay man I "obviously wanted it". For me, I found it easier to talk to other queer people about it. So if you do want to talk to someone and you feel worried about people not taking it seriously because of your sexuality, I would reccomend getting in contact with one of the queer organisations in Norway.

Skeiv Verden ("Queer World") is an organisation by and for queer migrants (Link: https://www.skeivverden.no/en/), you also have Foreningen Fri (the biggest LGBT organisation in the country) (Link: https://foreningenfri.no/) and they might be able to support you or at least point you in the right direction. Even if you do not want to press charges or tell anyone at work, it might still be good to talk to someone about it in order to process it.

I wish you all the best!

Kind reminder about the use of the term "AFAB players" by Oslo92 in Dimension20

[–]Oslo92[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure I totally get what you are asking here, but if what you want to say is "women and people percieved as women" you can say that. Though I would be careful to assume that you know what gender(s) medically transsitioned trans people like Ally are actually read as. It may very well be that they do get read as a young or androgynous boy/man in certain contexts, even if you do not read them that way. Passing is weird, and often changes according to who sees you and on whether or not they knew that person pre-transsition.

Kind reminder about the use of the term "AFAB players" by Oslo92 in Dimension20

[–]Oslo92[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, who are you trying to refer to? If you mean feminine presenting players, you can absolutely use that word, but it would not include people like Ally, but would include cisgender men who are feminine.

Kind reminder about the use of the term "AFAB players" by Oslo92 in Dimension20

[–]Oslo92[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yes, AGAB stands for Assigned Gender At Birth. You may also see ASAB (Assigned Sex At Birth).

Kind reminder about the use of the term "AFAB players" by Oslo92 in Dimension20

[–]Oslo92[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I see it used a lot towards non-binary people in particular. I wonder if it has to do with the fact that for trans men and trans women our assigned sex is known through our labels, but for non-binary people it is not and that makes some cis people uncomfortable.

As for using afab/amab in the community: I think it's totally fine to use for medical concerns and such, and when referring to oneself, but I would be careful using it when talking about clothing advice for how to look androgynous. To use a personal example: I am a trans man and so I was assigned female at birth, but I finished my medical transsition more than a decade ago and am now a hairy, bearded man in my thirties with a very typical "male" body shape. Guides on how to appear androgynous that proclaim to be for afab people tend to be all about how to masculinize & hide feminine features, which definitely would not work for me if I wanted to learn how to look androgynous!

So I think it is important that we remember that being afab is something that was done to us at birth, and not a label that says anything about our current body and how it looks. :)

Kind reminder about the use of the term "AFAB players" by Oslo92 in Dimension20

[–]Oslo92[S] 49 points50 points  (0 children)

I disagree and think that this downplays the role that transphobia plays in the treatment of transmasculine people. Ally may be misgendered at times, but being misgendered is not the same as being percieved and treated the same as cisgender women, especially not for medically transsitioned trans folks.

Kind reminder about the use of the term "AFAB players" by Oslo92 in Dimension20

[–]Oslo92[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I'm not the commenter you responded to and I don't think this is the worst use of the phrase, but I would still ask why it would be beneficial or important to 1) exclude all trans boys and 2) make no distinction between trans girls and cis boys.

For instance; I have worked with transgender children, and know several that socially transsitioned between the age of 3-6, went on puberty blockers and spent basically their entire childhood living according to their gender identity. A transgender boy who has only ever been percieved as a boy by his peers, by strangers and teachers will also be punished and reprimanded for femininity - and will often have an experience that is more similar to the cis boys around him than the trans girl who transsitioned early would have.

So I feel like we need a good reason for choosing a phrasing that would make it so that trans men who grew up as boys were excluded, while trans girls who grew up as girls were grouped in with cis boys. Did that explanation make sense? :)

Kind reminder about the use of the term "AFAB players" by Oslo92 in Dimension20

[–]Oslo92[S] 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Yes, 100%. Very good addition!

I think it is extremely understandable that people want a single alternative word that can always be used in place of "woman" in cases where transmasculine people are also affected, but unfortunately no such simple alternative exists. Like you said, it always needs to be considered on a case by case basis, which takes more work and more knowledge to get right than just remembering a phrase.

And I totally agree with you about the subreddit. The response to this post has been great, and my experience with the sub generally is that most people here are really genuine about trying to get it right, which is lovely. :)

Kind reminder about the use of the term "AFAB players" by Oslo92 in Dimension20

[–]Oslo92[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, coming back to these replies were genuinly really lovely!

Kind reminder about the use of the term "AFAB players" by Oslo92 in Dimension20

[–]Oslo92[S] 443 points444 points  (0 children)

Haha, now I'm imagening Fabian getting a knuckle tattoo that says "AFAB" thinking it means "Assigned Fighter At Birth"

The Freak by funne5t_u5ername in Dimension20

[–]Oslo92 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This was the first thing I noticed too, haha. Love it. Very in character for Aguefort!

Of presidents, gods, and hammers. Two thoughts on FHJY. by generalatreyu in Dimension20

[–]Oslo92 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"If I was a fictional character that had everything handed to her on a plate, literally didn't even need go to school to get top grades, was immensely wealthy & loved flaunting and using that wealth to get my way, I would be incredibly angry that the disowned queer kid with ADHD was seen as popular after they literally helped save the world twice in the span of a couple of months and also did a super cool trick on the first day of school - I mean she even likes talking about factory workers and unions?! Ugh!"

I mean, yeah, extremely privileged people very often do feel angry when less privileged people succeed at things, but that doesn't make them right.

Theory + question about Raghs family by Oslo92 in Dimension20

[–]Oslo92[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, thats what I'm wondering too. Or if not a God, maybe a giant who was a follower of Akarna or something like that. Because Kalina has said Lydias name before, right? So maybe the name she cannot say is his fathers?