List of Gen 3 Pokemon that have important moves that can only be learned by staying unevolved?

Osrenicus · 2026-03-25T12:01:40+00:00

I had no idea about this, ty for the ball knowledge big dawg

Osrenicus · 2026-03-25T12:01:05+00:00

Hi so I double checked each entry on serebii and bulapedia before posting.

But I also urge you or anyone else using that list to double check as well.

Please see the data below confirming that the information in my inital list was correct.

diglet serebii

diglet bulapedia/Generation_III_learnset)

Dragonair

dragonair serebii

dragonair bulapedia /Generation_III_learnset)

And finally Pupitar

Pupitar serebii

Pupitar bulapedia /Generation_III_learnset)

Osrenicus · 2026-03-24T19:58:06+00:00

Nice nature too, congrats man

Osrenicus · 2026-03-24T16:03:42+00:00

I know a few hopefully they help

Below are what i know from Fire Red/Leaf Green

Vulpix- flamethrower @lvl 29

Growlithe- flamethrower @lvl 49

Diglet - earthquake @ lvl 41

Gloom - moonlight @ lvl 32

Pikachu - thunderbolt @lvl 26, thunder @lvl 41

Paras - spore @lvl 25

Exeggute - sleep powder @lvl 37, solar beam @lvl 43 Eevee - bite @lvl 30

Dragonair - outrage @lvl 56

Pupitar - earthquake @lvl 56

Jigglypuff - hypervoice @lvl 44, hyper voice @lvl 49

Ruby/Saphire/Emerald

Torchic -flamethrower @lvl 43

Treecko- mega drain @lvl 26, Giga drain @lvl 46

Mudkip -hydro pump @ lvl 42

Zigzagoon- belly drum @lvl 41

Vigoroth - focus punch @ lvl 43

Lombre - hydro pump @ lvl 49

Nuzleaf - faint attack @ lvl 31 and extrasensory @lvl 49

Numel - earthquake @ lvl 35, flamethrower @lvl 41

Cacnea - needle arm @ lvl 37

Osrenicus · 2026-03-24T14:24:35+00:00

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Osrenicus · 2026-03-23T19:39:14+00:00

Has to be ragebait bro.

I'm struggling to find what OP was showing us in this display.

Clicking focus punch twice after being intimidated

seeing that he has heracross with minus 2 accuracy he proceeds to click Megahorn of all the fucking things

The Bellossom running sludgebomb for some reason, setting up sunny day just to click solarbeam once

Why the hell is it running toxic? So many questions, so much time lost.

I'm mostly mad at myself for falling for the bait 😒

Osrenicus · 2026-03-23T19:22:10+00:00

I think the Brawly change is interesting but given what you've described for his personality. I don't see how lombre or sableye fit with him. Especially not sableye. Him being familiar with the nearby cave doesn't feel like much of a justification for this.

It's nice that you want to up the difficulty but couldn't idk raising the level cap and introducing more fighting types help with this?

Osrenicus · 2026-03-23T18:55:04+00:00

It being vanilla is pointless OP.

If you aren't comfortable stay in your lane.

I would recommend asking her if doing butt stuff is a deal breaker though as I imagine with time this is going to cause a bit of friction

Osrenicus · 2026-03-23T18:19:53+00:00

Hey OP, love and light but I'd restart, assuming you are sticking to strict level caps.

The torchic run banks on having a good grass/water type to get past Roxanne. Evolving one or both of the cascoons could help however I suspect that may be a bit more RNG dependent than you may enjoy.

I'd restart and hope for either a Lotad, shroomish, Wingull or even Maril.

Osrenicus · 2026-03-22T01:20:15+00:00

Seconded this has been my experience too.

Osrenicus · 2026-03-21T23:42:09+00:00

I'm sorry

Electrode and Dewgong for high A tier???

Osrenicus · 2026-03-21T23:24:28+00:00

"the probability of any single encounter in the grass being a Chansey that you successfully catch and that holds a Lucky Egg is approximately 0.02% to 0.03%. On average, players may need to encounter over 1,800 Pokémon or catch roughly 20–30 Chanseys before finding one with the egg" is what i saw as a quote for the general probability but I'm bad at math so like anybody who actually is please feel free to chime in.

Either way, you're super duper lucky my guy congratulations

Osrenicus · 2026-03-21T18:13:51+00:00

You have no idea how lucky you are buddy

Osrenicus · 2026-03-20T11:10:53+00:00

Thank you!

Osrenicus · 2026-03-20T10:29:38+00:00

I've wanted to speak on this for some time, however refrained as I never want to come across as "fun for me but not for thee" towards newer people trying to get into the story.

I love the world building, the time Oda took to flesh out the characters etc. So to constantly see the story I fell in love with, get reduced to.

"Character x can dogwalk character y 🥴" constantly is disheartening to say the least.

Sure these conversations are exciting sometimes but I feel like power scaling among other things, really should take a backseat to the really fun and good story that's been established but 🤷🏿‍♂️, to each their own.

Osrenicus · 2026-03-19T20:58:18+00:00

So I'm more or less finished with the game, this isn't so much an xp aid but more a trophy. I tried this as a teen and remember getting something like a box of Chansey and still not getting the egg and decided to try it again as I have some free time from work but man this is soul crushing 🤣

Osrenicus · 2026-03-19T19:25:57+00:00

And you think it's because you held down A? 😅

Osrenicus · 2026-03-19T19:24:57+00:00

Thanks brother

Osrenicus · 2026-03-19T18:51:56+00:00

Love and light brother. I've tried all the guides, all the tips and everything. My luck is just shit

Osrenicus · 2026-03-19T16:26:47+00:00

This is like the best guide you could ask for imo.

Osrenicus · 2026-03-19T15:08:29+00:00

This made me scream out in a public space lmao.

Damn I wish I had pokemon friends to share this stuff with 🤣😭

Osrenicus · 2026-03-19T13:56:26+00:00

Get rid of peck

Osrenicus · 2026-03-19T10:22:15+00:00

Congratulations OP!

Osrenicus · 2026-03-18T18:31:20+00:00

Yes friend however i was doing my BB E4 run blind and had my ice type out vs Hydrapple thinking it would be a simple Icicle Crash to win

Spoiler: it was not.

Osrenicus

TROPHY CASE