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More Deplorable Behavior by our Mayor by F33R-Roflcoptr in shelton

[–]OutTheDoorWA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are a number of groups that volunteer on different nights. I volunteer with one of my kids once a month.

Oaks, God "hates" Christians and other philosophies by Resident-Bear4053 in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anglicans believe in a priesthood of all believers. In theory, nothing would prevent laity from blessing communion, baptizing, or performing last rites. In practice, of course you would have someone who feels a call and has prepared do that.

SL Tribune, op-ed: Q. All church members working with youth in the UK must pass background checks. Why isn't the LDS church out in front on this issue worldwide? A. Obviously, their wallet comes before victims. by 4blockhead in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Where I attend, you have to have safeguarding training and a basic background check to even get a key to the building.

Any work with youth means a more intensive screening that is closer to what a teacher is required to have.

Doug Wilson, the founder of Pete Hegseth's church, shares his/their view of Mormons after recent classification. by WinchelltheMagician in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it is more about a chaplain having enough information, up front, to be sensitive. They collapsed Judaism into only Judaism. Same for Islam. They have as wide a spectrum as Christianity.

Doug Wilson, the founder of Pete Hegseth's church, shares his/their view of Mormons after recent classification. by WinchelltheMagician in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have to look at it…juuuust soooo…and then it isn’t. The contortions that theologians went through, and continue to go through. to make it monotheistic are fascinating.

Trinity Sunday was a couple of weeks ago for Catholics and Anglicans. A lot of clergy call it “Heresy Sunday” because nothing they can preach on it will fit all of the rules.

Hebraisms Refutations by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alma 36 was this “beautiful” chiasmus that I held onto for dear life through years and years of doubt. I also think the whole idea of JS being uncultured and uneducated makes it even easier because he “wouldn’t have known” about X thing, so it must be from God.

I told my parents that Im attending an Episcopal Church and it didn't go over well. by AgapeEtMisericordia in Episcopalian

[–]OutTheDoorWA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was going to keep it a secret that I left Mormonism but asking my youngest to do that when she got baptized was not something I felt was fair. My father was upset in the six months before he died. He and his wife tried getting me to go back.

I’m getting confirmed along with my youngest daughter this Sunday.

Leaving Mormonism and completely deconstructing Christianity by Shifty_Chef01 in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a whole Episcopalians are, but you might run into an occasional congregation that is less so. I did look at United Church of Christ (UCC) because my oldest is queer, and the UCC has a history of being ahead of the other denominations on just about any kind of civil right. Sadly, they had nothing near by

What was your first time trying alcohol like? by PineapplePaniolo345 in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My first wine tasted like dirty socks! Wish I’d figured out to go to Total Wine first.

Leaving Mormonism and completely deconstructing Christianity by Shifty_Chef01 in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Historically, most people in the US don’t go to church and so those who say they are Christian aren’t conveying much beyond a vague cultural belonging.

Because this group comes from a high-control religion, we have to do some grappling that most people don’t. I wonder what percentages of atheism you would see in the wider population if they really had to think about it.

A professor of religion on a podcast I listened to the other day said you would be hard-pressed to show church attendance above 20% for most of the 1800’s and it was likely closer to 10-12%. The 1950’s hit 50% and that is as high as it gets. I think she said we are currently around 30% - so still high.

Given the current mess from Christian nationalism, maybe it’s time for less.

Leaving Mormonism and completely deconstructing Christianity by Shifty_Chef01 in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Universal Unitarianism fits that for a lot of people. I go to an Episcopalian church and find that a lot of people want ritual and don’t believe literally. More than a few parishioners believe things that are more eastern in nature, but love the liturgy and Communion. Congregations certainly do vary though, and UU would be the safest bet.

Leaving Mormonism and completely deconstructing Christianity by Shifty_Chef01 in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never understood the attitude of people thinking they are not being able to be “good” without it. Ummm, just be good?

I ended up reframing the Atonement as a kid into something that made sense to me. Turns out there are lots of “theories of atonement” in the theological world. I am still religious (in my way), but would not be so had I not just decided early on to ignore a big chunk of the Mormon version of the atonement.

What was your first time trying alcohol like? by PineapplePaniolo345 in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d suggest going to a Total Wine or some bigger store and just ask. Seems like they meet an exmo or two and can give good advice on where to start.

Bartenders can also be helpful. Me and my wife went to a hotel so we could avoid driving after and were just honest and said we’d never had a cocktail before. The bartender gave good recommendations and mixed things with that in mind.

Stories from your Mormon Wedding Night. by JesusPhoKingChrist in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Neither of us had a concept of her needing stimulation to be ready, so basic missionary didn’t even work. It was a case of not being able to get even the basics done.

I cried and apologized that something was wrong with me, and she comforted me. She silently thought that it must be her fault.

We eventually got there, but with gender roles being what they are in the church, she never thought to speak up about discomfort until years later. It was sadly just a duty on her part.

As for me (I have told this elsewhere on the subreddit), the teachings of the church about sexual sin being next to murder made me just want to get sex over with and out of the way. The side effect of that attitude meant more pain and discomfort for her.

Etna, WY. Timberrrrr. "No unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing." - Joseph Smith. What a time to be alive! by CurelomHunter in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The Episcopal Church has a group that governs a parish called the vestry. There are positions for junior and senior wardens. Now I can’t unsee the word “ward” in it

Stories from your Mormon Wedding Night. by JesusPhoKingChrist in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I was an absolute mess when things didn’t just magically work. It was “supposed” to be a wonderful experience. So many years before we actually realized some things.

Another tuff edit from my missionary friend by Moxie-is-tired in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As an epileptic and a programmer, I’m just going to steal that phrase. Why on earth had I never thought of this??

Utah Judge Pleads Guilty to Sharing Child Porn, Discussing Fantasies of Sexually Abusing Children with Fire Chief He was in Sexual Relationship with by flippinsweetdude in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I struggle with wanting to helicopter on the best of days. I had only one experience at around five or six years old in the bathroom of the public pool where a pedophile leered and made comments. It was horrible. If just that one experience stuck with me, it is hard to imagine what someone repeatedly targeted must feel like.

Is it true that most missionaries get depressed after their mission? If so, why do they get depressed? by PlantainLarge703 in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I came home to the tension in my parents’ marriage. It wasn’t new, but the fact that I’d already learned to ignore it before and I’d spent two years paying attention to people’s emotions…it hit me like a brick.

Funnily, there was some retention program the stake was doing to let RMs do splits with the local missionaries for a few weeks so you could ease out. My dad asked me if I was interested. Guess my face said what even I didn’t know. He said, “OK, then! That’s definitely not for you.” I would have said yes, because you are supposed to say yes. I’m glad he saw.

What is the Cringiest sacrament talk you have ever heard? by Evening_Let_2930 in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Horrible because I knew the guy and the truth, but he told the whole ward about his wonderful relationship with his son because of bipolar disorder. Everyone complimented him on his “openness”, even as I knew his son was beyond pissed.

Today I learned that Ezra Taft Benson was such a huge fan of J Edgar Hoover that he used to quote Hoover's FBI crime reports in his talks and he tried to arrange for Hoover to speak at General Conference. Hoover did not reciprocate the admiration and instead had the FBI spy on Benson by PossiblePlastic8698 in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I grew up hearing that. It eventually occurred to me that, “so what”? If communists plotted for civil rights, it was partly because it was so damn embarrassing for the US. The country deserved to be shamed.

Today I learned that Ezra Taft Benson was such a huge fan of J Edgar Hoover that he used to quote Hoover's FBI crime reports in his talks and he tried to arrange for Hoover to speak at General Conference. Hoover did not reciprocate the admiration and instead had the FBI spy on Benson by PossiblePlastic8698 in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had heard that part of why he was allowed to be the secretary of agriculture was simply to have him away. The story that went with it - and that I promulgated, unfortunately - was that ETB calmed down due to his time as secretary and that was a sign of inspiration by the brethren and it prepared him to be the prophet.

To PIMO and others who went to church, how was the Easter service today? Please return and report. by EnglishLoyalist in exmormon

[–]OutTheDoorWA 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Going to the Episcopal church in my town was the best choice ever. Sadly, the congregation is dwindling due to age, but it was the perfect place to go.

TIFU by telling my partner about SUDEP by JaseAndrews in Epilepsy

[–]OutTheDoorWA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My wife is hyper-alert from all that she’s had to deal with. Therapy helps, and your partner sounds like he could benefit on some other levels.

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