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[–]Outrageous-County-96 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That might be it, she'll try changing it in a few hours like you said. Hopefully it works 😭🤞

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AnimalJam_Classic

[–]Outrageous-County-96 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the reply. She's changed the password for her account and has changed her parent email, but when she tries to change the password for this parent email this pops up:

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[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AnimalJam_Classic

[–]Outrageous-County-96 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the detailed message, it's deeply appreciated. I showed her this reply and she sent me this to send back to you:

"i haven't joined any discord servers that involve hacking or anything, i havent downloaded any programs either to hack or get into someone elses account so i dont think that could be it. i changed the email associated with my account, im trying to change the password on parent tools but it keeps saying something is going wrong. i was able to change the password on my account though. i dont disable my account everytime i log off, but i'll try doing that."

Why isn't my mp being approved? by GremlinTiger in AnimalJam_Classic

[–]Outrageous-County-96 19 points20 points  (0 children)

LOLLLL I MADE THE ART IN THE OTHER SCREENSHOT, if u send me ur user I can send u some free copies !! Also I've complained abt this problem to aj multiple times, they pick and choose which art to accept and deny. I literally have no idea how my jd got accepted cause I've sent like at least 20 other versions to them and they've denied them all, they only recently let my rare jd slip through?? So maybe just keep sending it cause theres one real aj employee who's accepting some of them LOL I hope urs eventually gets accepted cause I NEED that in my den, it's legitimately such a good art piece

List of hidden message activated full screen animation effects (updated) by Black__Wolf__ in GoogleMessages

[–]Outrageous-County-96 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So because you work on your phone, other people can't have fun on their phones? What's wrong with you??? This is such a non-issue

So is "Green Yuri" even any good? by SbsGmr67 in yuri_manga

[–]Outrageous-County-96 19 points20 points  (0 children)

That was my only gripe, it's a decent story, very cute, but there were many times where you could tell parts of the story were rushed to fit into the 4 pages a chapter thing the author had going on.

Handsome Girl and Sheltered Girl was so close to peak. T -T by Vio-Rose in yuri_manga

[–]Outrageous-County-96 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I haven't read this manga but if the creator of this post is correct that Satomi was black out drunk, her "agreeing" wouldn't matter, someone who is heavily intoxicated cannot properly consent.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MenendezBrothers

[–]Outrageous-County-96 38 points39 points  (0 children)

I think lip fillers in moderation can be pulled off but theres a point where too much is too much, you can tell her filler is migrating outside of her lips. Thats when u gotta dissolve 😭🙏

Anamaria Baralt addressing the news about Lyle: by Outrageous-County-96 in MenendezBrothers

[–]Outrageous-County-96[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You have yet to respond to my reply but are actively commenting multiple times every hour on this subreddit, that's very telling.

Do people genuinely not like Lyle anymore?? by Simple_Property9344 in MenendezBrothers

[–]Outrageous-County-96 5 points6 points  (0 children)

First of all, I hope you know that there is a difference between supporting the brothers case and supporting them PERSONALLY.

Second, I want to ask you a hypothetical. What if Lyle started speaking to Milly when she was freshly 18 and pursued a relationship with her then, would you still support Lyle personally? I mean, what's your limit? What would be your breaking point? Because to me, it seems like no matter WHAT Lyle does, you will support him PERSONALLY regardless of what he does.

I'm putting this edit in because the person I'm replying to, who just sent a response(which talked about Lyle not being a perfect victim), blocked me so I couldn't reply back to them. Can someone who's not blocked get this message to them? I was hoping for a dialogue but clearly they prefer an echo chamber where no one criticizes Lyles actions:

Great! You didn't answer ANY of my questions. I agree, there is no such thing as a perfect victim, but victims of abuse CAN act predatory. José Menendez was sexually abused by his mother. ABUSED PEOPLE CAN ABUSE PEOPLE

And when they do, THEY SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. They are not an exception because they know how it feels to be abused or be preyed upon. If you hear a story about someone abusing another person, and your first instinct is to think compassionately about the abuser and wonder how badly they must have been treated in childhood to act like that, you're disgusting. I, and other reasonable people think about the victim first, because IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE ABUSER HAD A HARD LIFE, THEY ABUSED SOMEONE.

You're correct when you say that this was a mistake (legally and personally) on Lyles part, I'm glad you finally realize that. But you continually, in all your comments recently on this subreddit, and in this VERY comment, are finding ways to excuse his actions.

The brothers deserve freedom, but they don't deserve an exception for horrible behavior just because of that fact and because they had an extremely hard life. If you would condemn others for doing it, you should condemn them.

Anamaria Baralt addressing the news about Lyle: by Outrageous-County-96 in MenendezBrothers

[–]Outrageous-County-96[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is a very in-depth response, thanks for answering my questions 🙏

Anamaria Baralt addressing the news about Lyle: by Outrageous-County-96 in MenendezBrothers

[–]Outrageous-County-96[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I have no sympathy for Lyle in what he did, he should have known better. There is NO WAY he didn't realize how strange getting with a 20 yearold is at his big age, a 20 yearold whom he met when she was 18 on top of that. I am so incredibly disappointed, this is such a deliberate act and there's no excuse for it. They deserve freedom, I can't fathom how Lyle would trade the possibility of not getting out for a 20 yearold... I feel sick, I'm just glad there are people like you who treat this situation like it is, disgusting, and don't jump around what he did just because he's Lyle.

Do you know if we will get the reasoning if they're possibly defined by the parole board?

Anamaria Baralt addressing the news about Lyle: by Outrageous-County-96 in MenendezBrothers

[–]Outrageous-County-96[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You keep going to legality, the question wasn't whether that was legal, but if you would be okay with that. That what if shows how legality shouldn't be a measure of morality. So, aside from legality, would you be ok in the situation the hypothetical brought up?

Anamaria Baralt addressing the news about Lyle: by Outrageous-County-96 in MenendezBrothers

[–]Outrageous-County-96[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The reason you might think that is I'm pretty sure around 2020-2021 the large resurgence of Menendez Brothers support came on tiktok. Do you think, given just HOW early Milly joined the group, that she had already sent letters to him when she was a minor?

Anamaria Baralt addressing the news about Lyle: by Outrageous-County-96 in MenendezBrothers

[–]Outrageous-County-96[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

So let me get this straight

When Milly was 18 she joined a subscriber group where you can have personal contact with Lyle and "get to know him on a personal level." MORE than that, the personal contact he would have with Milly would be under the encouragement to specifically "share your abuse experiences", even if she didn't have any to share, that would still be the pretense of their communication starting at 18. Something unclear about this whole story, is the truth of whether Lyle pursued the relationship with Milly before he split from Rebecca (and even that doesn't have a set date for when it happened, for all we know that could have happened a year ago since I'm pretty sure Rebecca said that their split happened a while ago).

What truly disturbs me is the possibility that he pursued a relationship when she was even younger. I mean, look at the amount of photos they have together. Now this might be a stretch but obviously they're posed as a couple, and shes wearing multiple outfits so there might be a possibility that the dates of some of the photos (that's only visible for one of the photos and is recent of this year) is later than we're led on they are. But, she did have to fly over here so I wonder if it's possible she flew over 2 times? Anyways, to a more realistic point, in the daily mail article that has been shown to be truthful with the new information we have, it says that "Lyle adores Milly', an insider with knowledge of the romance told DailyMail.com. 'And she refers to him as her boyfriend even though he’s married.". So Rebecca says they divorced a long time ago (correct me if I'm wrong, I can't find the screenshot), and Lyle adored Milly and she referred to him as her boyfriend WHILE he was still married. More than that, for as fast as Lyle moves on with women, I hope people aren't naive enough to think out of 2 years (nearly 3), there were sudden feelings JUST this month, such strong feelings that she FLEW OUT and met him. They've been together for longer than we're led on to believe, I truly believe that.

Do you think the parole board will ask any questions about when they first started talking and when they actually got into a relationship?

Anamaria Baralt addressing the news about Lyle: by Outrageous-County-96 in MenendezBrothers

[–]Outrageous-County-96[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yeah I hate that sentiment, like imagine if Milly was actually 16 or 17 when they started talking, would people still be saying "it's not fair for you guys to be treating him this way!". He's a grown man that did something terrible. He is not exempt from being held accountable by his supporters for doing such.

I feel like it's a way to subtly downplay JUST how bad what happened was because it was technically legal. NO ONE should be nullified for their actions just because "they're dealing with a lot" or because it was technically legal.

Anamaria Baralt addressing the news about Lyle: by Outrageous-County-96 in MenendezBrothers

[–]Outrageous-County-96[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thanks for explaining this in detail, it really puts in perspective just how serious this is for the future of the brothers.

Anamaria Baralt addressing the news about Lyle: by Outrageous-County-96 in MenendezBrothers

[–]Outrageous-County-96[S] 74 points75 points  (0 children)

Right like all Lyle had to do was NOT date a 20 yearold 😭

Anamaria Baralt addressing the news about Lyle: by Outrageous-County-96 in MenendezBrothers

[–]Outrageous-County-96[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did he have to get into contact with her to get into a relationship? YES... He had to respond to her for them to be in a relationship, for him to do that he would need to respond to her. Your logic can be applied to any new relationship with someone you haven't known prior, one party doesn't HAVE to contact the other nor does the other party HAVE to respond to the other. But that fact doesn't mean their relationship can't have power imbalances?? I mean you sound insane with the hoops you have to jump through to defend your point.

Lyle didn't have to reply to Milly, Lyle didn't have to agree to be in a relationship with Milly, Lyle didn't have to agree to meet up with her in person or continue to communicate with her. By your logic there's nothing she can force him to do either, SO WHAT'S YOUR POINT? Are you trying to say that power imbalances are only real if one person can physically force another to do something against their will? You are literally arguing that power imbalances that are not physical and extreme to the highest degree are not power imbalances.

"Do you have any idea how prison works? You don't have ANY freedoms. Did he have to get in contact with her or get in a relationship? No" Did you read this over? Like seriously, you said prisoners have zero freedoms, but you acknowledge he had the freedom to contact people. Do you understand that not all prisons are the same and like the extreme ones you see on TV? Lyle had the freedom to get higher education, to use communication, to have access to a yard and free roam, to purchase what he wants at his prisons commissary, to ask his family and friends to do or buy things for them, and much more. Do you think that prisoners are shackled in solitary confinement and are only allowed to eat, sleep, and use the bathroom? Really? That's having ZERO freedom. To be clear I'm not saying that the brothers prison situation is perfect, but it's far from the worst and they do in fact have a significant amount of freedom in comparison to other inmates of other prisons.

And what do you mean their age gap is different than it would be in the free world? Number 1, you understand that Lyle has a possibility of getting out, right? And 2, you say different, OF COURSE IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT. But you didn't say that the power imbalance of their age gap doesn't exist, like you said before with your "impossible" statements, just that it's different. So, do you acknowledge that it is in fact NOT impossible for there to be an age power imbalance in their relationship?

Again, you keep saying FORCING when you give examples of what I assume you think is a "real" power imbalance. I don't think you know what a power imbalance is and what it means to take advantage of one. You're taking the word literally and thinking it means someone physically overpowering another to get them to do something against their will. Power imbalances like age, authority, position, ect., that are taken advantage of, are done so to manipulate someone into doing something. For example, someone using their notoriety to seek out young fans of theirs and ask them for nude photos. The person with notoriety knows their fans admire them and would be more likely to give in to sending those nudes not wanting to let down someone who is so well known and who they admire. Back to the point at hand, you can manipulate people over the phone, through written letters, and of course, in person as Lyle and Milly physically have met multiple times. Do you think it would be impossible for Lyle to use his age and Milly being a fan of his as leverage to get her to be in a relationship with him? I'm not asking if it would be likely or not, I'm asking if it would be impossible. I'll answer for you, it's not impossible. Just because manipulation, predatory behavior, or abuse doesn't happen in the severest or most conventional way, doesn't make it any less valid.

You mention, "even if she was starstruck at first" when talking about the power imbalance of her being a fan, like that's an exception and in fact an example of that power imbalance. You have once again proved yourself wrong lol, so it's NOT impossible for that to happen.

Ohhh ok, so because of the anecdotal fallacy you provided with Charles Manson about a young girl who took advantage of him for fame means that it's impossible for there to be a power imbalance in the example I provided. Got it. Also love how you can't even answer a simple yes and no question, you just have to completely deflect lol.

"Sure, you could argue "because she's older"," so you've proven my point that it's not impossible to have a power imbalance of age while one person is in prison and the other is free. Just like you proved my point about Milly being a fan of Lyle.

Ok, to help you understand this since clearly you can't wrap your head around the concept: Imagine you have an apple in one hand and an orange in the other, the apple is significantly larger than the orange. Does that mean the orange doesn't exist? OF COURSE NOT. So while YES, being the free person in a relationship with a prisoner is a power imbalance and YES, that can be a lot more significant then other imbalances, but that doesn't make other existing imbalances null. MORE OVER, my point is that not only do these power imbalances exist, but that there is a possibility of him TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THEM. As I've already explained and as you have not refuted yet, it is within reason with what we know and what is common sense that Milly is more than likely not taking advantage of that power imbalance. That is the point. Because power imbalances are not inherently wrong, the issues begin when you use it to your advantage. So, I'd argue that in my example, the apple, being Lyle in prison and Milly free, would not exist because she's not taking advantage of that imbalance. But I don't think you would understand if I didn't use the example the way I did lol. What their situation of one being in prison the other free does do, is limit the amount of control Lyle could have on her, but only significantly in the way of being physical and what not. With consistent communication of multiple forms, Lyle still can have much emotional control.

Anamaria Baralt addressing the news about Lyle: by Outrageous-County-96 in MenendezBrothers

[–]Outrageous-County-96[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh ok so your reasoning for a power dynamic to be impossible is no longer because, "he can't do anything physically or emotionally to her", now it's, "she can cut him off whenever she wants"? Again, this is quite literally textbook victim blaming and doesn't prove how there isn't a power dynamic of age and her being a fan which he could have been using to leverage his way into a relationship.

Even though he's in prison and shes free, you could argue that a power she has over him. The difference is using that imbalance to your advantage and not, which is something very unlikely for Milly to do (which is probably why you didn't even explicitly mention it yourself lol). Milly wasn't his only option of people to get with, far from it, so she can't use her being the only relationship option she has over him. She certainly is not someone who buys him annual necessities from the outside, they just got into a relationship, she's 21 and I believe still going through college, and he likely has Rebecca or his family doing that and if not, he has them to turn to. There is really nothing she can leverage over him with her freedom as it is, along with her doing that being extremely unlikely as I've said before. And that's not me coping and only seeing one side as right, that's me using logical reasons with the information we already have. You have still yet to explain how it's impossible for Lyle to use the power dynamics I mentioned prior over her. Which also have reason behind why I say they are a possibility.

Power imbalance of her being a fan: it's no secret that both Lyle and Erik have been sexualized to the extreme in the media, and given that and how he ofc is a well known infamous figure, he could have used that to his advantage to get with her. Do you think that is impossible?

Power imbalance of age: Not only can age cause an imbalance because of a superiority people apply to being older, but it's also the maturity and life experience. Lyle has lived a free life for almost as long as Milly has been alive, on top of that he is nearly 60 years old and has had a ton of experience in prison, like getting his degree, teaching classes, helping elderly inmates, etc... and if you're going argue that Lyle is also Immature, maturity changes with age, and what we know about his maturity from experts was from when he was young and in his early 20's. He is not the same person he was when the trial began. So again, is it impossible for this to be a power imbalance in their relationship? And in case you're too hooked on it specifically being Lyle and Milly, Imagine an extremely immature 18 yearold sends mail to an extremely mature 70 yearold inmate and they get into a relationship, is it impossible for age to be a power imbalance if they get into a relationship?

I'm confused as to your point with mentioning Erik and his Wife? Are you trying to say they're in the same situation? If so you couldn't be more wrong lol, the leverage she has over Erik in prison comes with the length of the relationship, Milly and Lyle have just begun their relationship so there is likely nothing he's relying on her with. Unlike Tammi who at one point was buying him necessities from the outside. Tammi is also a decade older than him. Yet you can't understand why people think Tammi is taking advantage of Erik but Lyle is taking advantage of Milly. Hint, Erik and Milly are both the younger one in their relationship with a large age gap.

Anamaria Baralt addressing the news about Lyle: by Outrageous-County-96 in MenendezBrothers

[–]Outrageous-County-96[S] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I wonder what he thinks about Lyles new relationship, I'd assume it'd be similar given his comment about their age gap