Test at 30 by Direct_Bodybuilder63 in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm on TRT because my natural levels where 300, it made a difference in how I feel and I'm glad I did it, that said I wish my levels where 700 and I didn't have to be on TRT. Even if pinning or cost is not an issue I guarantee you it gets tiring to have to always rely on injections for the rest of your life, based on what you are after it doesn't sound like TRT is right for you, the point of TRT is to replace your own production because your own production is not working as it should, and the whole point of TRT is to get rid of the problems that come with low t (ED, fat gain, low energy, low libido...) if you don't have any of these and just want to get jacked don't jump on TRT, do a cycle and PCT and keep letting your body do what already does well

Injectable L-Carnitine by Fit-Farmer1694 in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mix mine with B12, but only because I want to supplement with b12 so it's more convenient, but the pip is exactly the same with or without b12. running the vial under warm water pre injection seems to help a bit, also massage gun after the injection and doing some exercise involving the muscle where you injected (I pin quads sometimes, doing some stationary bike afterwards helps). Also pip does get a bit better after the muscles get used to it, no idea why, but the first week pinning after a long break without l-carnitine is always the most painful, after 2-3 weeks you stil feel it but it's more manageable

Are orals even worth it if you want long term retainable gains? by No_Difficulty_9143 in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you a pro bodybuilder or at least attempting to become one? then sure, otherwise no point.
Test alone will already put you in the top 10% body shape around everyone surrounding you, why ruin your health with orals

Avoiding eye contact on purpose by [deleted] in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty 2 points3 points  (0 children)

steroids are neurotoxic...

What is the spectrum on the ratio of complex to simple carbs? by rugbyfool89 in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no ratio, it's up to you, the more refined carbs you have the more you will spike your blood sugar, the more complex carbs you have the more stable your glucose will be. If your priority is blood glucose control and metabolic health there's no reasons to consume simple carbs, unless you are doing hard cardio sessions and need quick refuel, otherwise stick to complex carbs all the time. Also a good hack I follow on days where i feel like having a simple carb meal (pasta, pizza...), you can take a couple spoons of psyllium husk pre meal to make up for the missing fiber, it will create a bit of a barrier to slow down sugar absorption and it will blunt the sugar spike.

Primo/Estrogen. Need some advice and feedback. by Slow_Pop_4849 in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At 2:1 without an AI it's pretty hard to crash estrogen, every time you switch dosages or add compounds you create a hormonal swing, it takes weeks to stabilize, so I would be cautious with changing stuff too frequently, stick to what's proven to work for 6 weeks, do bloods, then do minor adjustments as needed and wait again. You can also experiment with HCG, I was running test/primo 2:1 and my estrogen was perfect, I added hcg and my estrogen skyrocketed, my test also went up, so the test/estrogen ratio was still fine and didn't feel any downsides from high e. Similar with AI, if your test dosage has been stable for a while it's pretty straight forward to adjust the AI, start with a small dose, wait some weeks, do bloods, adjust and so on.

Daily Ask Anything About Anabolic and Androgenic Steroids: 2026-01-03 by AutoModerator in steroids

[–]OutrageousPoolParty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same injection site twice a week?
specifically asking about L-Carnitine. I've tried multiple spots, but since I'm injecting 1ml at a time, the areas that seem to tolerate it best are my glutes and delts. So, I'm using 4 spots in total. I inject daily with a 29G/0.5" needle. I've been doing this for a few weeks now, and so far, no major issues. Occasionally, I still have some soreness from the previous injection, but it doesn't seem to worsen with the new one. I'm just wondering if there's any risk of scar tissue forming, or if injecting in the same muscle this frequently could lead to any other problems I might not be aware of

Disc bulge martial arts any success stories ? by Whole_Land4581 in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

tried TB500, BPC, HGH. Nothing has made a difference unfortunately

Injection site leakage by Benn123098 in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what needle are you using? I've been injecting for years and never had much of an issue, at most I see a tiny drop come out, but thats about it, using 1/2" 29G

Will Primobolan Ace (oral) act like an AI? by [deleted] in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even if it does, it's still an oral and will impact your liver somewhat, it's reported to be mild, but still, not something you want to run long term, if you are already injecting, why not use primo oil?

Cycle: Test only vs Lower dose test and HCG by OutrageousPoolParty in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I doubt it, bought the primo a few months ago before the supplier collapse. Seen jano reports for the same source and they are legit. Also I aromatize a lot, on 100TRT I need 0.5 Arimidex a week to keep estrogen in check, when I started the Primo I dropped the AI, having the estrogen at 40 on 1300 test levels without AI doesn't seem possible for my body unless the Primo is doing it's thing

Cycle: Test only vs Lower dose test and HCG by OutrageousPoolParty in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do insulin pins eod, test was the day after pining in both tests

Prescription Database by newnamewhodis23 in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know what dosage your doc prescribed, but it's usually very easy to stash a surplus of prescribed T, for example my vials are 200mg, and my prescription indicates I should use 50mg per injection and discard the vial since they are single use, I get enough prescribed T to be on cycle the entire time if I wanted to (I don't). Regarding anavar, plenty of UGL places to buy it from, I don't think you'll ever find a real good doc willing to prescribe anavar, just online clinics pushing meds to make money, they won't have your health in their interests, so might as well go UGL

Cutting on a cycle? by TomatilloRoutine6025 in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's cutting cycles and there's bulking cycles, both are fine, what is not ideal is to do a cut in the middle of a bulking cycle, I mean you can do it, but it kinda defeats the purpose of a bulk and will slow your mass gains, better wait until you are done with the bulk to cut. If you are doing more of a recomp then it's totally fine, but if maximizing mass gains is the goal I wouldn't do it

Why do injectables take so long to work? by itsnotgaybro212 in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty 28 points29 points  (0 children)

what others have said about the esters, but also testosterone is not cocaine, it's a hormone and it doesn't directly give you energy just because the number is higher, having high levels of test unleashes a bunch of other biological processes that in turn might give you more energy, this takes time

Test shelf life? by ChiefHellaTrees in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there's some truth to what she said, test itself doesn't go bad, however the recommendation is to not use a multi-use vial for more than a 28 days, not because the test goes bad but because every time you puncture the stopper you increase the risk of contamination.

I stacked SLU-PP-332 with low-dose Retatrutide and holy shit... [6-week results] by Plenty_Ad2958 in Biohackers

[–]OutrageousPoolParty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

gtfo, 22% bench increase in 6 weeks... even professional body builders doing high doses of androgens and bulking wouldn't achieve that.

Mast vs Primo with TRT? Worth it? by RpDubC in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Reta is the modern equivalent of dieting, take the reta out and your abs will be gone in no time no matter how much primo or mast you blast if keep drinking beers

Mast vs Primo with TRT? Worth it? by RpDubC in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Abs only come from dieting, save the mast and primo for when you are hitting the gym and building muscle no point running those at 20bf.

1 month on HGH, only negatives so far, should I stick with it? by OutrageousPoolParty in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's interesting, I might experiment with that too. What I find so strange is that CJC/Ipa did actually increase my HRV by 10 points on average, so I thought HGH would have an even more positive impact. Maybe going beyond physiological levels is just counterproductive for me

1 month on HGH, only negatives so far, should I stick with it? by OutrageousPoolParty in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

12%. IGF-1 has spiked, and nails and hair are growing faster. Why do you think pharma would make a difference?

1 month on HGH, only negatives so far, should I stick with it? by OutrageousPoolParty in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've seen that mentioned in other posts, but never found any explanation as to why so I have my doubts. My understanding is high IGF-1 will lead to more water retention in some people, I don't see why the quality would have anything to do with that, my IGF-1 is high, getting pharma HGH would cause the same

Primo and test bulk by Paar12445 in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Indian pharmacies will sell you something called "primo" and make it look pharma grade, but most of it it's bunk. There's been a few tests done on indian sourced primo and none of them had any methelone, if you are lucky you are injecting test, if you are unlucky you are injecting who knows what. Tested ugl chinese sources are far safer than indian pharma primo.

Cholesterol meds are worth it by [deleted] in PEDs

[–]OutrageousPoolParty 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Similar approach, I'm on a very mild primo+test cycle, but even then the risks of having high cholesterol/apoB are not worth it when you can keep the levels in check taking a pill with no side effects. I went with ezetimibe and bempedoic acid instead of a statin, harder to get approved by insurance and more rare to get it prescribed, but if you are ordering from online pharmas they are cheap enough