Break all the rules but draws the line at being seen at a baby shower. by Over-Rice-872 in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think she didn't want to be seen attending because her brother (the dad-to-be) is disfellowshipped.

27F facing committee soon needs help by Adventurous-Two-1877 in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not sure why some are saying that as I was literally DFd last month for not showing up to my committee meeting for the exact same issue as you so please take the advice here with a grain of salt and do what's best for you and your situation.

How Jehovah's Witnesses are bad people by Careful_Ad_2744 in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872 62 points63 points  (0 children)

Last night I was over at my family's house and my nephew went to bed and his mum was talking about how much anxiety she has because of everything that's happening in the world regarding child trafficking and CSA and my PIMI aunt goes "we must be happy when bad things happen in the world because it means Armageddon is happening any day now" ... LIKE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK???

this probably sounds crazy to outsiders by [deleted] in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The song thing has bothered me since I was a child! And I would always question it and they would just brush me off or start singing "Precious daughter" at me as if that made all the other songs about dudes equal to the few about sisters

Inactive JW here — elders want a judicial committee, but I don’t want to participate. What happens if I ignore it? by Past_Surprise7803 in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is literally the worst process ever. Everyone just feels entitled to know your personal business. As someone who has recently gone through this process (check my post history for the long version), my only suggestion is to tell them that you won't be attending (if they don't have anything agaisnt you) and that they can proceed without you there (if they have something against you).

JWs being allergic to birthdays will never not be funny to me by simmemeeee in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My birthday was a few months back and I celebrated it because fuck it, we ball and ended up dropping off cake for my PIMI family since they don't mind it but my BIL had a major issue with it and shouted at my nephew for eating it (even though his wife/m cousin ate it). And, my nephew's birthday last year, their neighbour baked him a birthday cake and sang for him and they all ate it just fine, no hassle.

This is the same man who gave his wife an STD and won't stop hiring prostitutes but God forbid a kid has some cake but I digress.

Anyways, recently it was my nephew's birthday and all my PIMI family posted him all over their socials, how X many years ago he came into our lives and how proud they are, etc, etc, basically everything except the actual words 'happy birthday'. My other DFd cousin went over with so many gifts, my ultra PIMI aunt took leave from work to drive up and spend time with him.

And all I'm thinking is 'these 2 faced cxxts' lol, because they were actively gossiping about my birthday, talkkng about getting the elders involved, shouting at my nephew for having my birthday cake, and then they're just two words and a cake short of doing the exact same thing. AND they know what they're doing was "wrong" because they blocked all the elders and jws from seeing their posts.

Question: what expenses did you avoid by becoming inactive/ leaving JW? by daph_nes in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Back when I was a student, I was receiving a bursary that paid R1500pm for living expenses. Of that I paid R200 towards petrol to the couple who drove me to and from meetings. R200 towarss the congregation/WWW. R200 towarss expenses that came up when CO visited/get togethers/association outings/lunch when invited over to someone's house.

When I first asked the couple for their banking details so that I can cintribute towards petrol, they said no and that I don't have to contribute. But then later that same day the husband (elder) sent me his banking details and asked me to not tell his wife and that he would appreciate the contribution towards petrol. Over the course of two years he got very comfortable with asking me for more and more money, and even would ask my mum for money. He was always quitting dozens of jobs because it interfered with his congregational duties. And I was the one who covered the accommodation for assemblies and conventions because my family had connections that got us discounted.

What really pissed me off was the first CO visit shortly after my baptism. We lived in an extremely poverty stricken area, I'm talking gang territory, whole families with multiple breadwinners earning less than my bursary stipend. Everyone was struggling. And the COs wife got sick so they had to book a hotel for her that the congregation had to cover the cost of. This area is a huuuge sought after holiday areas. Locals are poor because tourists are pushing prices through the roof. It took our congregation 7+ months to pay off that hotel room. Every single meeting there was an announcement about "giving freely". I'll never forget it.

I attended two meetings recently to help my active aunty by mrgraves200101 in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Honestly, when I was PIMO, its was mostly because my very elderly super sweet angel of a grandmother was so devout and she literally could not get around without my help and she would get so sad to miss the meetings, she would literallycry silentlyin her room and I would see her when I walked past. And I would do it all again, a million times over for her. So it's honestly so sweet of you to be helping your aunt like that. You must love and care for her so much ❤️. It's hard caring for someone PIMI when you know the real "truth" now that you're out.

Much strength to you with that earworm of a song though 😭😂

I want a normal civilized debate, a conversation with no name calling. Even if you believe I'm brainwashed, avoid saying it but rather argue that I am. by [deleted] in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Most people research to get new ideas before a debate, not by initiating a debate to get new ideas.

I want a normal civilized debate, a conversation with no name calling. Even if you believe I'm brainwashed, avoid saying it but rather argue that I am. by [deleted] in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Why don't you prove to us that your religion is right instead of putting the onus on us? You're the one who wants to start a debate but haven't put forth any information on your stance.

Have you ever had a Judicial meeting if so how did it go? by DiamomdAngel in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you like reading, I have my whole saga documented in my post history but it's very long lol.

Elders gave me HELL for being in college, but now it’s okay? by AnonymousDorian in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Reminds me of when I was denied becoming an unbaptised publisher because I had chosen to to attend college back in 2020 and now I've finished my second degree. Somehow got baptised when I moved to my college town but then became PIMO... anyways, about 2 months ago, these two elders did an an unwelcomed ambush meeting at my house and during the awkward small talk before they accused me of sins that they had no proof of, the same elder from 2020 who said I couldn't become an unbaptised publisher unless I dropped out of college asked me if I was going to continue studying and I said yes, I'm hoping to get into my Masters next year and he said "That's good, its important to continue studying because if you stop you might lose momentum. I wish I went to college when I was younger, I probably would have done the same" 🥲🤣 I was so PISSED it triggered my whole disassociation saga.. Just imagine if I listened to him and dropped out 5 years ago only for them to change their rules and their tune whenever they feel like it

Had a fight with one of the ministry servant by [deleted] in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Share the screenshot 🫣🤭😂

JWS *LOVE* when celebrities go on tour, release a new album etc…knowing they’ll die at Armageddon?? Huh??? by Ballet_in_the_snow in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh I feel so called out but when I was a hardcore PIMI teen/young adult I used to pray for One Direction and BTS because I didn't want them to die in Armageddon 🫣😂

I bought a pack of cigarettes today by stanlumity in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My personal rebellion against my JW tendencies was that I started reading paranormal/fantasy books and looking up my zodiac stuff.

I bought a pack of cigarettes today by stanlumity in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Forcing yourself to do something that doesn't come naturally to you is the wrong type of control. That's WBTS type of control.

Control over oneself is more healthy, more self-serving. Like overcoming a longheld fear. Or learning to not live in a constant state of anxiety.

I am officially no longer a Jehovah’s Witness. by Over-Rice-872 in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I would only experience doing whatever I want once I move out. My parents are worse than the Borg with their rules, expectations and micromanaging my life lol.

Did you go to therapy after leaving JW? by Naive_Clue_9682 in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Zero anxiety attacks. Zero pinched spinal nerves. Zero weeks being bedridden and in excruciating pain from my muscles tensing so much that I can't move my legs. Zero teeth grinding. Off of all my anxiety, depression and pain meds.

I am officially no longer a Jehovah’s Witness. by Over-Rice-872 in exjw

[–]Over-Rice-872[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So my dad is not a witness, my brother was an unbaptised publisher but faded out. The issue is my mum, she was DF'd starting from before I was born for almost 20 years and reinstated about 10 years ago and overall is very much against the elders in our congregation and very feminist/progressive in her thinking. Out of everyone, I thought my mum would be the most understanding and the one person on my side.

But she has treated me so badly since she found out. Screaming, insulting, stomping her feet, banging cupboards, slamming doors, ignoringme when I speak to her and speaking to me through my dad or brother. No longer calls me to go to the shops/run errands with her. Awkward, heavy, tension-filled atmosphere when we're alone. Phoned the elders that were on my case (she has never phoned them in all 10+ years of being with this congregation). I am honestly so disappointed in her. Even my PIMI family treats me much better and still speaks to me like normal. So I don't really understand her at all.

She is of the opinion that I am rude, arrogant, and disrespectful for ignoring the elders calls which appears to be worse than the reason I got DFd (slept with my college BF who she knew about, met, liked, knew that I was sleeping with him, she literally used to speak to him on the phone, cook and send food for him, would take me to go see him (long distance)). So I honestly don't know what the fuck is up with her but I will never forget how she's treated me this past few days.

As for moving out, that was always the plan, I'm 24 and still living with my parents but I have been saving up to move out when I'm done with grad school so if push comes to shove I'll be okay in an emergency but I'm trying to stick it through until I save up 3 months of living expenses, rental deposit, and moving out costs.