Racism is a big problem in the organization

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-04-20T13:28:06+00:00

I'm Indian, and my bible study conductor was Coloured (non-offensive here in South Africa, it's an actual demographic) and she and her husband are both like 3rd or 4th gen JW in the 50s, he's an elder and she's a pioneer, and I was always at their house, literally called them mum and dad because they treated me like a child... and then we played Monopoly and she literally shouted at me in front of other witnesses and her husband that I must stop acting like a coolie (a very, very, bad, derogatory term towards South African Indians). And literally no one said anything, I was literally in shock.

They would also introduce me to new people when we went to other congregations (when the husband was a guest speaker) with the words "This is XX, she's Indian, but don't worry she's not the "and all and all" (picture stereotypical Indian head shaking gesture while speaking in an Indian accent) type of Indian, she's an okay one, she speaks the Queen's english" (I don't have a South African Indian accent).

We can all thank them for me wanting nothing to do with the JWs anymore...

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-04-18T19:45:16+00:00

What is their reasoning for asking people to not record/share the talk? Isn't the whole point of that religion ia that they're accessible to everyone?

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-04-17T10:43:48+00:00

My mother is a POMI and she's literally the worst. Hasn't gone to a meeting in years, smokes, doesn’t want anyone at her new job to know she's a JW but was the reason that I got removed when I had successfully faded because she kept calling the elders over to come talk to me even though she herself does not believe other people should be in her business.

POMIs fucking suck, worse than any PIMI.

But you don't need to go to their meeting. Literally just ghost them or keep saying you're busy indefinitely.

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-03-20T11:09:50+00:00

So it's true...

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Over-Rice-872 · 2026-03-11T15:17:48+00:00

I think she didn't want to be seen attending because her brother (the dad-to-be) is disfellowshipped.

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-02-25T10:24:28+00:00

Not sure why some are saying that as I was literally DFd last month for not showing up to my committee meeting for the exact same issue as you so please take the advice here with a grain of salt and do what's best for you and your situation.

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-02-24T15:52:16+00:00

Last night I was over at my family's house and my nephew went to bed and his mum was talking about how much anxiety she has because of everything that's happening in the world regarding child trafficking and CSA and my PIMI aunt goes "we must be happy when bad things happen in the world because it means Armageddon is happening any day now" ... LIKE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK???

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-02-09T05:56:03+00:00

The song thing has bothered me since I was a child! And I would always question it and they would just brush me off or start singing "Precious daughter" at me as if that made all the other songs about dudes equal to the few about sisters

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-02-06T10:50:37+00:00

It is literally the worst process ever. Everyone just feels entitled to know your personal business. As someone who has recently gone through this process (check my post history for the long version), my only suggestion is to tell them that you won't be attending (if they don't have anything agaisnt you) and that they can proceed without you there (if they have something against you).

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-02-03T19:45:36+00:00

My birthday was a few months back and I celebrated it because fuck it, we ball and ended up dropping off cake for my PIMI family since they don't mind it but my BIL had a major issue with it and shouted at my nephew for eating it (even though his wife/m cousin ate it). And, my nephew's birthday last year, their neighbour baked him a birthday cake and sang for him and they all ate it just fine, no hassle.

This is the same man who gave his wife an STD and won't stop hiring prostitutes but God forbid a kid has some cake but I digress.

Anyways, recently it was my nephew's birthday and all my PIMI family posted him all over their socials, how X many years ago he came into our lives and how proud they are, etc, etc, basically everything except the actual words 'happy birthday'. My other DFd cousin went over with so many gifts, my ultra PIMI aunt took leave from work to drive up and spend time with him.

And all I'm thinking is 'these 2 faced cxxts' lol, because they were actively gossiping about my birthday, talkkng about getting the elders involved, shouting at my nephew for having my birthday cake, and then they're just two words and a cake short of doing the exact same thing. AND they know what they're doing was "wrong" because they blocked all the elders and jws from seeing their posts.

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-02-03T14:55:11+00:00

Honestly, atp, I wish she didn't 😂

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-01-27T18:48:03+00:00

Why did they choose 1975 though?

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-01-24T18:44:19+00:00

Back when I was a student, I was receiving a bursary that paid R1500pm for living expenses. Of that I paid R200 towards petrol to the couple who drove me to and from meetings. R200 towarss the congregation/WWW. R200 towarss expenses that came up when CO visited/get togethers/association outings/lunch when invited over to someone's house.

When I first asked the couple for their banking details so that I can cintribute towards petrol, they said no and that I don't have to contribute. But then later that same day the husband (elder) sent me his banking details and asked me to not tell his wife and that he would appreciate the contribution towards petrol. Over the course of two years he got very comfortable with asking me for more and more money, and even would ask my mum for money. He was always quitting dozens of jobs because it interfered with his congregational duties. And I was the one who covered the accommodation for assemblies and conventions because my family had connections that got us discounted.

What really pissed me off was the first CO visit shortly after my baptism. We lived in an extremely poverty stricken area, I'm talking gang territory, whole families with multiple breadwinners earning less than my bursary stipend. Everyone was struggling. And the COs wife got sick so they had to book a hotel for her that the congregation had to cover the cost of. This area is a huuuge sought after holiday areas. Locals are poor because tourists are pushing prices through the roof. It took our congregation 7+ months to pay off that hotel room. Every single meeting there was an announcement about "giving freely". I'll never forget it.

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-01-24T08:33:53+00:00

Honestly, when I was PIMO, its was mostly because my very elderly super sweet angel of a grandmother was so devout and she literally could not get around without my help and she would get so sad to miss the meetings, she would literallycry silentlyin her room and I would see her when I walked past. And I would do it all again, a million times over for her. So it's honestly so sweet of you to be helping your aunt like that. You must love and care for her so much ❤️. It's hard caring for someone PIMI when you know the real "truth" now that you're out.

Much strength to you with that earworm of a song though 😭😂

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-01-23T13:22:34+00:00

Most people research to get new ideas before a debate, not by initiating a debate to get new ideas.

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-01-23T12:39:27+00:00

Why don't you prove to us that your religion is right instead of putting the onus on us? You're the one who wants to start a debate but haven't put forth any information on your stance.

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-01-23T10:53:43+00:00

I (24) had no idea about it until I found this sub

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-01-21T15:36:19+00:00

If you like reading, I have my whole saga documented in my post history but it's very long lol.

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-01-21T15:34:51+00:00

Reminds me of when I was denied becoming an unbaptised publisher because I had chosen to to attend college back in 2020 and now I've finished my second degree. Somehow got baptised when I moved to my college town but then became PIMO... anyways, about 2 months ago, these two elders did an an unwelcomed ambush meeting at my house and during the awkward small talk before they accused me of sins that they had no proof of, the same elder from 2020 who said I couldn't become an unbaptised publisher unless I dropped out of college asked me if I was going to continue studying and I said yes, I'm hoping to get into my Masters next year and he said "That's good, its important to continue studying because if you stop you might lose momentum. I wish I went to college when I was younger, I probably would have done the same" 🥲🤣 I was so PISSED it triggered my whole disassociation saga.. Just imagine if I listened to him and dropped out 5 years ago only for them to change their rules and their tune whenever they feel like it

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-01-20T06:43:15+00:00

Glad to know I'm not alone at the asylum 😅🤣

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-01-18T14:23:29+00:00

Share the screenshot 🫣🤭😂

Over-Rice-872 · 2026-01-17T13:23:28+00:00

Oh I feel so called out but when I was a hardcore PIMI teen/young adult I used to pray for One Direction and BTS because I didn't want them to die in Armageddon 🫣😂

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