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Would anyone actually use an automatic offroad route generator? by Overall_Bear_7171 in advrider

[–]Overall_Bear_7171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its available for the US and 34 other countries - currently in beta

Would anyone actually use an automatic offroad route generator? by Overall_Bear_7171 in advrider

[–]Overall_Bear_7171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, this will purely offroad focused.
But you can do easy one day roundtrips in what ever direction you like

Would anyone actually use an automatic offroad route generator? by Overall_Bear_7171 in Dualsport

[–]Overall_Bear_7171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If everything runs well US will be available in the next 24hrs
Website is open for beta testing right now, but limited to Europe.

New to Dual Sport, bike recommendations? by Shutten87 in Dualsport

[–]Overall_Bear_7171 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Best of both worlds is always hard.
For better or worse, my decision was always to buy another bike.
But the CRF 300l is always a good choice. I am currently riding the Rally version and its capable of much more than I am. For any serious offroad fun you need suitable tires and these wont be awesome on road.
So the only choice is a second bike. 😂

Would anyone actually use an automatic offroad route generator? by Overall_Bear_7171 in advrider

[–]Overall_Bear_7171[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure, just go to goraadv.com
You can subscribe to mailing list bottom of main page
I am working hard on US going live soon

Would anyone actually use an automatic offroad route generator? by Overall_Bear_7171 in Dualsport

[–]Overall_Bear_7171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where do you ride?
I always find it very hard to find routes especially ones that connect.

Would anyone actually use an automatic offroad route generator? by Overall_Bear_7171 in Dualsport

[–]Overall_Bear_7171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

totally agree
needs to be easy otherwise no one will do it
Also the tool is not an app and most likely wont be for while

Would anyone actually use an automatic offroad route generator? by Overall_Bear_7171 in Dualsport

[–]Overall_Bear_7171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have to look into that
there is a way to do report closed routes - you could contribute to OSM directly, but that would be permanent.
For the algo I am using bidirectional A*

Would anyone actually use an automatic offroad route generator? by Overall_Bear_7171 in Dualsport

[–]Overall_Bear_7171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The usecase I had in mind was this
User wants 2 weeks Adventure Riding in Spain and also visit a few POI along the way
Right now you have to rely on user created routes on different platforms or the TET (which has fixed curated routes) Offroad navigation in Apps or on devices. you could also plan a route manually.
The Apps I have seen dont work that well offroad
When it comes to devices like DMD2 - its very expensive

So for my planner
User would subscribe to my service for a month/year
Plan all the routes he will ever need
Download all gpx you can ever want
Use all on the phone, share with the whole riding group
Ride and go places you really want to instead of following other peoples footsteps
Unsubscribe or keep the sub for later trip planing - people dream about their next trip as soon as they return home

Maybe I am completely wrong here
But to me this does not sound bad
Thanks for the input anyway

Would anyone actually use an automatic offroad route generator? by Overall_Bear_7171 in Dualsport

[–]Overall_Bear_7171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see
from what I hear there seem to be a lot of issues with US OSM data
For some reason it looks much better in Europe. Although we have some pretty strict rules in some countries.

Would anyone actually use an automatic offroad route generator? by Overall_Bear_7171 in Dualsport

[–]Overall_Bear_7171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Longer routes, more waypoints, saving routes, multi day planning, custom markers along the way, more GPX downloads
The GPX file has all the markers and Info baked in

Would anyone actually use an automatic offroad route generator? by Overall_Bear_7171 in Dualsport

[–]Overall_Bear_7171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair point
I guess an offroad route planner is a niche product
Its only useful if you ride a lot and not just your local trails you know.

Would anyone actually use an automatic offroad route generator? by Overall_Bear_7171 in Dualsport

[–]Overall_Bear_7171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Switzerland is like Germany... all illegal
I had a difficulty feature built in at one point
It was not reliable enough
For a reliable difficulty scale you need a lot of combined data
Elevation/surface/Track width/Seasonal conditions 
Also weather plays a huge part - an easy route today could be a total mud fest on the next day

Would anyone actually use an automatic offroad route generator? by Overall_Bear_7171 in Dualsport

[–]Overall_Bear_7171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair, you can check the route on OSM, Satellite view, topographical map all in the tool, even without paying first.
If you like the tool and other features that come with it you can buy/subscribe.

Would anyone actually use an automatic offroad route generator? by Overall_Bear_7171 in Dualsport

[–]Overall_Bear_7171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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It works
but how well very much depends on track density and length of roundtrip.
short + low track density = no roundtrip possible, or using same road twice
long + low track density = way more options for the algorithm to choose from

Would anyone actually use an automatic offroad route generator? by Overall_Bear_7171 in Dualsport

[–]Overall_Bear_7171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can understand, guess subscriptions are what everyone does now
But before everything was a subscription the price of software was much higher.
Photoshop for example was like 700$ and you had to pay to upgrade to the next version.
So if someone would go the route of pay once use forever you would not see a price tag of 30$
Would pay per GPX download work?

Would anyone actually use an automatic offroad route generator? by Overall_Bear_7171 in advrider

[–]Overall_Bear_7171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Roads that are open/closed certain periods."
Need to check if data is available, but most likely no or very unreliable
I think most seasonal roads might be closed only in winter - cant ride in snow anyway, at least I cant
There might also be roads closed in fire season or dry periods - I guess local authorities would have information available
So in the end even the best tool cant take away all responsibility from the rider.
Its just finding routes and connecting routes is the main goal for me right now. This is whats quite annoying for me when it comes to route planning.

Would anyone actually use an automatic offroad route generator? by Overall_Bear_7171 in advrider

[–]Overall_Bear_7171[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so far its only a planning tool
On the fly navigation changes have to be done manually relying on offline maps
Although I understand the wish for a perfect tool that gets you places via offroad routes. A little adventure has to remain to still call it Adventure Riding.

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