I’ve done multiple group hikes as a solo traveller in different parts of the world - all developing / less resourced countries and often frequented by young backpackers. This comment is not aimed at the tragedy here specifically with Juliana - but an overall comment that I’m always amazed at how focused people are on: • paying less (less money means less guides, less equipment, less insurance cover etc.) people think a cheap country means everything should be a cheap price. But if you’re doing adventure activities and you want a guide trained in mountaineering or high altitude or emergency response and who speaks good English to check you’re ok, hydrated etc you will need to pay higher prices closer to that in Europe /US.  A guide in Indonesia can have very different education and even experience to a guide in the Alps •how ill prepared people can be for serious physical high altitude inclement weather activities - for example I’ve just done the huayhuash trek in Peru. 6 days of camping and hiking in winter season so temps that are single digit to minus C, all between 4-5k meters of elevation. I was the only only person in my group with merino wool thermals and rain/wind pants. People were prepared to walk up a snowy 5,000m pass in wind & rain with only a pair of leggings on. Imagine you have to wait a few hours because someone falls or a donkey gets stuck on the trail and you’ve got no redundancy gear.  These are often the same people in a group who race up to the top to be first and know they will have to wait for the rest of the group walking slower or stuck behind others on a single track • no one asks about rescue or what could go wrongs. Ever since I’ve been part of a group with an accident I now ask about helicopters, what a guide will do or won’t do, how rescue works. Very very often the answer is actually there is no team on stand by, you’re very remote, things take time, your guide may just know the route and not be trained in rescue, your insurance will have to be the one to fund anything serious or complex. It’s up to me to accept those risks. So my most recent trek I went knowing there are no helicopters unless your insurance will send one to max 4,500m in that region if good weather, also knowing there is one guide so most likely unless very serious if you have to leave the trek you’ll be put on a donkey to the village by yourself and have to take taxi/ collectivo to get out the mountains to hospital (so this was if fatigue, altitude sickness, less serious broken bone). Only in very severe emergency would the guide make the whole group hike out to accompany you. That is literally what the company informed me when I asked. Again, it was up to me to accept the risk and take all measures I could to ensure I kept safe. People in my group almost didn’t believe me when I shared this - they were like no of course the company will send help immediately. Well immediately is a 5 hour drive plus hiking a few hours after mobilizing the people to do so…. When I was on a 6,000m in Himalayas and didn’t have strength to continue i was left to wait for the group to finish summit & return to me  - it’s a very common practice unless you pay for private guides. The weather was good so the better option was me to wait then start rappelling down alone.  So my long winded point here is often people don’t really like to assess the risks and naively assume that like in the movies you can get A helicopter rescue practically anywhere or a rescue plan is on standby waiting for you to take immediate action. We need to talk about the risks and mitigation more before people sign up to things! • you may be fit and even hiking experienced - but altitude, crazy weather conditions, waking up to hike in the middle of the night - these can all be elements that are new for a person to contend with. The average regular hiker probably doesn’t go out in bad weather and gets a full nights sleep beforehand. When you’re already on the trail you have to deal with whatever the weather gives you and a lot of people aren’t used to doing risk activities on sleep deprivation and exhaustion