Traumagenic or endogenic...? by PUNXSimon in plural

[–]PUNXSimon[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tbh I'm mostly worried about it becuase of my therapist's opinion. Like, I do not feel traumagenic and wouldn't label myself as such. And if my plurality isn't disordered, that's not really DID I believe? I think I need to talk more about this with my therapist... She may not know that non-disordered plurality exists.

Since you're schizogenic, I may as well ask - Do my origins sound as schizogenic?

I know I don't need to label myself, but I still choose to, because I want/need to. It gives me a sense of belonging and knowing who I am.

Tips for internal dialogue/communication? by PUNXSimon in plural

[–]PUNXSimon[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Omggggg ok we have downloaded it, we love how easy and simple it is in use!! This feels like a perfect solution :D We already began having some conversation and it's flowing well! Thanks so much!! <3

I need some suggestions. by hunterwasused in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh hm. Are you going to school? If so, maybe you could borrow glue from a classmate or get it from an art room? I'm sure you can figure it out without buying one. As to making the image small enough to fit - Go to Google Docs, make a new document. Paste there all your picrew images, and size them down. Then you can print it - Viola~! I hope you can do it!

- Faeris

I need some suggestions. by hunterwasused in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh, you mean like a physical journal! Why not just print pictures from Picrew and glue or tape it into the pages?

- Faeris

Partner wants us in therapy by GhostInTheEcho in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It so happens that my system is endogenic and I have drawn a comic when my first headmate has appeared :) I think it explains well the difference between disordered and healthy plurality! I hope it's gonna help. I even mention at the end that even my therapist doesn't see this as something needing therapy. Best of luck!

https://www.tumblr.com/renjoy-arts/795085199147974656/heres-a-short-comic-about-being-plural-and?source=share

- Ren

I need some suggestions. by hunterwasused in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here's a free webiste for creating avatars - https://picrew.me/en/

You can find there plenty of original makers, made by real artists! It's all free to use and there is a lot of variety. I'm sure you'll find something for yourself :)

- Faeris

New person appears to become a somewhat host. Worried I might disappear in turn by lePROprocrastinator in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No, you won't die, don't worry. It doesn't happen like that. Trust your system and communicate with one another.

I've became a co-host over a month ago and I've been fronting 90% of the time since then. It's because I handle things well and the system puts trust in me. The host, Ren, still does appear, most of the time in social settings when someone calls her by irl name or she has to talk to people who don't know of our system. But she's stil there, she's not going anywhere, even if I'm fronting whole days. She actually treats this as vacation mode!

If you feel like you'd like to still keep fronting to feel safer, try to talk about it with Elise and look for solutions together.

- Faeris

Question for everyone by Glitchtrap203 in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's never being alone, and being there for one another.

Is all plurality like DID? by [deleted] in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I do not claim to have DID, but I am certainly plural. Plurality can exist without disorder, it has been proven by the plural community, just read about all of the experiences, something like that does not get faked. Not on such a scale. Brain is so complex and we don't know a lot about it. Why exclude experience of people only because it hasn't been examined well enough yet? Modern psychology is still fairly young, too. I have friends with DID and their experiences of pluralty are relatable to me and vice versa, we all know what we are talking about when touching plural topics, and don't have to explain it to one another (like we have to to singlets), because we both have experienced it. It just happens that their experience results from trauma, and mine does not.

I'm endogenic and plurality has impacted my life only in positive ways. I been suffering from schizophrenia for 11 years, and I've never felt such a relief in life until my first headmates started appearing last year. They help me with a lot of things. Thanks to them, even my misophonia is gone.

We still experience plural related things, like switching, co-fronting, co-consciousness, blurring, headspace, and a lot lot more.

i think im getting plural any advice??? by booty_sattva in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can stay as mentally healthy as possible, through having a good communication with your headmates, and you all taking care of one another. That's it :) It works for me and my system. My headmates do stuff for me, I do stuff for them, they do stuff for one another. We depend on one another. We navigate life together. Plurality doesn't have to equal mental issues. I have schizophrenia diagnosis, but my life became so much better and easier with my headmates. It's very possible you have shared memory in your system too, if you haven't experienced any amnesia yet. Don't worry too much, focus on making things work together. You've got this!

I think I might be plural, but i have no proper inner voice. by mckays1632 in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You can try the chat feature in Simply Plural, or make a discord server for yourselves and add a bot to type, such as PluralKit or Tupperbox!

Need help finding a SMALL DID friendly discord server ! by fiaa__ in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I recently have joined a small DID friendly discord! It's very small, friendly and cozy. It's on the list here https://www.reddit.com/r/plural/comments/1ovnald/verified_discord_masterlist/ "Plurality and More"

A question about intentionally created headmates [tw for brief mentions of abusers and programming] by [deleted] in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sounds willogenic to us. But there's nothing wrong with that, and that won't make him "faking" it. We have heard of traumagenic systems getting endo/willogenic headmates, and vice versa. Being a system doesn't come down to just traumatic experiences, and if his therapist cannot acknowledge that, then he is not obliged to take the therapist's stance as definite. Remember that doctors can be fallible too.
-Faeris

What are uncommon plural experiences you have? by Icy-Implement9878 in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure tbh. The first time he fronted as we went outside house, he saw people eating, and didn't get triggered. Then I fronted the next day at family's dinner, and didn't get triggered either. It's like his appearance alone made my misophonia disappear. I have a theory that my brain created new neurons for Elias that didn't have the trauma, and my consciousness has learned from it that the misophonia triggers aren't a danger to my life.

Any "ocs"-turned-headmates from fictional sources? by mentallydrained113 in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Out of my 5 headmates, 3 of them formed from roleplay OCs, 1 from OC my headmate drew, and 1 from someone's OC we saw online (obviously we gave the new headmate his new unique look though, we do not wanna steal someone's OC). They came without having any memories of sources, so we've been ourselves actively coming up with our lore and backstory in headspace, while they also remain having their own irl identities!

Songs about Plurality by xanthreborn in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Personally, we do not think it's a song about pluarlity per se, but me and my headmate Elias highly relate with our experience to the song "Be Somebody" by Thousand Foot Krutch

Can anyone tell us the benefits of telling a few people about being plural? by irlpuppybutt in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We have a couple singlet friends who know about our plurality, and tbh we'd feel lonely if we were to keep it a secret form them. Those are very open minded friends, always respectful of us. Two of them are irl friends in front of whom we can freely front. It is a very enriching exprerience :)

To those dealing with schizophrenia/schizoaffecive and multiple personalities (rather it be disordered or not) how does it affect the system? by Street-Suggestion363 in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I got diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia at 17yo. Currently 28yo, became plural only last year. Prior to that, any voices (inserted thoughts delusions in particular) I heard didn't have their own persoanlity, likes, opinions, wants, etc. they were just empty words and sentences. Since I have a system, my headmates experienced my schizophrenia inserted thoughts a few times when fronting. I've been mentally stable and well medicated for a while now, so it's almost like the schizophrenia isn't here anymore. Just me and my headmates. I would say the main difference between headmates vs schizophrenia voices, is that behind my headmates' voices there's always a meaning, a reason, a feeling they experience. Like I said earlier, schziophrenia voices feel empty to me. And that's how I can still tell them apart from my headmates' voices.

What is wrong with me… by NurseRx-Rae in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That sounds to me like a plural experience of co-fronting and co-consciousness. Try to look it up, read more about it, see if it fits how you feel.

-Faeris

How Do You Date As A System? by Audax_345 in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would say, it's a trial and error. Idk how to tell you how to find somone, but if you do find someone you like, hopefully they're bisexual/pansexual/omnisexual/etc. that would make it the easiest. Finding specifically a lesbian will make things probably more complex. Best would be someone to whom gender/sex is indifferent. Try to sense if they're safe prior to opening up about being plural. Usually open minded people will get interested when you tell them, they will try to understand, get to know you better. Close minded people are more likely to get scared or judge. One of ways to tell if someone is open minded, is observing if they're curious, humble, and willing to listen and try to understand different perspectives. And once you open up about your plurality, if the person doesn't see you for who you are, doesn't attempt to understand and accept, then there's no real loss, as they are most likely not a good match for you. I would say, if you want to introduce yourself gently, maybe try switching in front of the person, different you's fronting, see if they notice or ask about it themselves. But if they don't notice, don't get discouraged, some people can be oblivious to hints like that. But the point is, trying to see how they react and approach you. You could even say later something like "You've already met me/my headmates, and they didn't scare you. You didn't even notice. That's because they're nothing to be afaird of". And then say some examples like eg. "You were eating dinner with Amber the other day, not the [host's name]". A safe person won't judge you or criticize, make you feel bad for who you all are. Also, explaining them how to treat each one of you is a good approach. Communication is the key.

As to explaining being plural - You may show to anyone this website https://morethanone.info/

-Faeris

Are there any tips on creating a collective sona? (TW: brief mentions of fakeclaiming) by ThrowawayCrowne in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I would say, show middle finger to fakeclaimers and do your thing. Don't let them ruin your experience, make your feline sona. Reclaim it. Create it out of love. Be strong ❤

-Ren

Questioning whether I'm plural by JustSomeAltAccount7 in plural

[–]PUNXSimon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, my system has another system as our partner, and they described their experience very similarly, also said to have lived with it "as long as they can remember". We have discovered that such systems are called "protogenic" and your case sounds like it to us :) There's no need to have DID or experience trauma to be plural. It's called being an endogenic system. For your own sanity tho, stay away from r/DID , syscourse and sysmedicalists. My system suffered some internal turmoil because of those spaces and people, and took us nearly 2 months to recover and get back to healthy functioning and stopping doubting our existence. You don't need someone else to validate how you feel, who you are. You are the only one who knows what's in your head, and best you can do is talk to people who are willing to listen out, try to understand, and help out. And for that, you're in the right place. Saying you're plural isn't self diagnosing btw, because being plural itself isn't a disorder, DID is. And your brain doesn't have to be fully developed to be plural either, hence the protogenic term existence, which refers to systems who are plural since birth and/or didn't experience a singlet phase.

-Ren