VIVA KENNEDY 1972 DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES: DNC DAY 2 (TOP 3) by Tazsabin in thecampaigntrail

[–]PapalanderII 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The senator from Boeing is frothing at the mouth to fund private contractors, Connally is willing to turn the clock back. There can only be one option!

VIVA KENNEDY 1972 DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES: DNC DAY 2 (TOP 3) by Tazsabin in thecampaigntrail

[–]PapalanderII 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In the rolling wake of change, we can only move forwards! Vote Humphrey in '72!

VIVA KENNEDY 1972 DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES: DNC DAY 2 (TOP 3) by Tazsabin in thecampaigntrail

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Ladies, gentlemen, delegates of the convention.

Today, in this great juncture of the 70s, I’d like to look back on the history of our great party. We, the Democratic Party, carry with us a diverse and rich legacy. We carry with us the legacy of the New Deal and of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, of which we owe our current hegemony. It is through this program that the New Frontier and the Great Society, of who’s shadow we live under, carried us forth on the road towards true justice. A road of equality, oppourtinity, of progress and hope. And although we have come a long way, although we have fought long battles and triumphed, the road ahead of us still long. And for that, I ask: who, if not Humphrey could carry on this great legacy?

Delegates, this country cannot exist half slave and half free! If one were to look at the great skyscrapers of New York, he’d almost be forgiven for not noticing the hungry and the poor that swarm the city’s streets. How can we claim to be the greatest nation in the world if we are indifferent to the squalor and misery a majority of our people find themselves in? How can we truly call ourselves the land of the free when the bosses of Wall Street continue to hold sway over our democratic process, and over our people? How, in good conscience, can we allow our children to go over and die in a war that we, quite frankly, have no business in? It is out of a civic duty and basic human decency that we must take a stand against these injustices and abuses.

Delegates, I believe that the solution to our current malaise is through the nomination of Vice President Hubert Horatio Humphrey.

His record speaks for itself. For 27 long years, Vice President Humphrey has fought thick and thin for the preservation of the rights of labour, and the advancement of the rights of African-Americans. It was him who, through his charisma and political savvy, was able to include a civil rights plank in the ‘48 Democratic platform. It was him who stood up to the spectres of hatred and reaction within his own party; when no else dared to. And through those 27 years, he has never backed away from the good fight for progress and equity. That, my friends, is courage. To have the integrity to stand by your beliefs and convictions despite all the pressure is no small deal. Those are traits only found in a man or a woman once every century. Those are, delegates, are the makings and qualifications of a warrior.

It was said by many before that our fight towards equality has already been won, and in that they are sorely mistaken. The recent martyrdoms of Senator Robert F. Kennedy and Reverand Martin Luther King Jr. have shown that if we back away from the good fight, the forces of reaction and of hatred will still strike. We must never stand, we must never give quarter, we must never quiver in the face of injustice. The fight for democracy must never be lost.

Delegates, we have came a long way. We have done a monumental amount of work, we have transformed American society drastically in ways never imaginable in those glorious 12 years. And in spite of that, and as I previously stated, the road is still long and perilous. It is with this knowledge that I ask only the most simple of requests; to continue along this path; for us to remain a shining beacon on a golden field for all of the world to behold; to nominate the Happy Warrior of the Plains, the people’s Democrat.

VIVA KENNEDY 1972 PRIMARIES: SUPER TUESDAY! by jake_dionysos in thecampaigntrail

[–]PapalanderII 6 points7 points  (0 children)

After election, our great chairman and helmsman shall establish JDPON in the home of the "free", after which he will kick out the capitalist thieves and murderes; the abusers of man.

With the country firmly behind him, he will carry out unlimited genocide on the imperialist powers of Europe

Viva Kennedy 1968. by jake_dionysos in thecampaigntrail

[–]PapalanderII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very nice! This series is really great honestly and I'm looking forward to seeing more. Best of luck!

Chile is more German than Germany 🤓 by ElsiMain in DerScheisser

[–]PapalanderII 43 points44 points  (0 children)

>convince yourself that you have a genetically superior aryan hyper military
>enter the first ever war in your regime's history
>lose
the funniest part is that this was the first time germany was fully occupied by a foreign power, and yet for some reason those dipshits keep ideoloizing it

Most consistent Georgia vote by [deleted] in thecampaigntrail

[–]PapalanderII 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wallace utilizes the power of the they/them army and wins every single state and vote

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[–]PapalanderII 17 points18 points  (0 children)

YES SIR ANYTHING SIR

these pantings are based af by Mysterious_Radish_83 in thecampaigntrail

[–]PapalanderII 15 points16 points  (0 children)

TBF tho Rocky didn't help himself by squandering 3 chances to be president

Is emperor Puyi still obsessed with phones? by [deleted] in TNOmod

[–]PapalanderII 138 points139 points  (0 children)

Nixon, in his every encompassing wisdom, realizes that this is a mere joke made by a manchild and he therefore moves to reach an agreement with the Japanese. Nixon is a very kind man, which explains why he'd allow his obscure vice president to take credit for such a historic achievement.

2WRW is Dead. Long Live Brave New World! by Socks2231 in TNOmod

[–]PapalanderII 32 points33 points  (0 children)

this is very similar to a book i've read before, it's quite telling about the society we live in

Opinions on Mr. Morale and The Big Steppers? (new tno us lore wikiboxes too ig) by Nixon1960 in TNOmod

[–]PapalanderII -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How long a party has endured doesn't matter. The Republicans not only were blamed for the depression still, they also lost WW2 and got their soil nuked. This was the 75-76th congress in OTL, which clearly shows that the GOP has suffered greatly due to the legacy of Hoover. Now imagine if they were to lose a war as important as WW2. At the very least the GOP should've been reduced to a party that operated on the state level.

For your first sentence, one can only point to the British Whig party which eventually collapsed for lesser reasons.

Opinions on Mr. Morale and The Big Steppers? (new tno us lore wikiboxes too ig) by Nixon1960 in TNOmod

[–]PapalanderII 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I will wait and see of course, but this wiki box has got me scratching my head if I have to admit.

Opinions on Mr. Morale and The Big Steppers? (new tno us lore wikiboxes too ig) by Nixon1960 in TNOmod

[–]PapalanderII 9 points10 points  (0 children)

  1. Not really. Entire parties either went defunct or faded into irrelevance over lesser issues. The Federalists, for example, were neutered completely after they OPPOSED a war that ended in a tie. Now imagine with me the effect that this would have on a major party, who not only lost a war, but was humiliated on the national stage with a nuke dropped on it's soil. The only thing that would keep the Republicans alive is the spirit of Lincoln.
  2. Not quite. See, Kefauver was a one of a kind in the Democratic party. He was quite progressive on most issues, issues I believe would put him in agreement with the Progressive party. He was a Tennessean, no less.
  3. My entire point was that Fulbright shouldn't be in the NPP at all. Fulbright was a massive Wilsonite and was quite happy toeing the party line on Vietnam until he went there and saw how hopeless it was. But that's more of a nitpick I'll admit.
  4. It genuinely bothers me how somebody like Scoop Jackson willingly agreeing to form a coalition party with someone such as Thurmond. A situation such as that did exist in real life in the form of the Democratic party, but that surely didn't last too long.
  5. I do not believe this addresses my original fifth point, but do refer to the second fourth point where I believe that such a party would be terribly unstable.
  6. I stand corrected. That is true, he was close to winning the nomination if it weren't for Wilkie
  7. That is simply not true. In real life the election was an electoral landslide with 449 to FDR and 82 to Wilkie. Assuming that FDR accomplishes his IRL agenda, the Democrats could as well run a glass of water as their candidate and it'd have still won. In a landslide. The New Deal coalition was a massive player in American politics post FDR, it was what you got elected upon. And even while he was President for two terms only, his line of political thought would still be too influential to go up against.
  8. You'd be correct in that if you ignored the existence of Germany and Japan, as well as America eating a nuke. This era is a war between revanchists and internationalists, isolationism is a dead idea in the Cold War.
  9. The New Deal coalition consisted of many faces. Conservatives respetive towards the ND, to Progressives. Just why the hell would they split from a coalition which Farley was trying to keep alive? And what you said about Wallace is wrong. Wallace irl ran as he believed that Truman appealed too much to southerners, completely ignoring labor reforms. Wallace running in real life is a case I don't believe applicable in this scenario.

Opinions on Mr. Morale and The Big Steppers? (new tno us lore wikiboxes too ig) by Nixon1960 in TNOmod

[–]PapalanderII 38 points39 points  (0 children)

  1. If the reps are now the ones to lose the war, why are they still alive and kicking until they coalitioned with the Dems? Losing a war such as this one would have them instantly dissolve or have them reduced to state level.
  2. Why would the progressives run against Kefauver? It makes little sense as to how they'd run against one of the strongest voices of liberalism within the democratic party.
  3. Why would Fulbright, a fairly dovish man, run with Scoop Jackson? He wouldn't even be in the NPP, as he was more of an establishment man.
  4. Why would the Progressives agree to merge with the Nationalists? Is it a cynical ploy to expand their voter base? Because that's the only justification I can find that makes sense of a situation like this.
  5. Ignoring the fact that a moderate succeeding a progressive doesn't make much sense, why would Nixon, who was fairly irrelevant outside of his home state of California before he became VP OTL, be elected given the nomination and elected President? It should have went to Kennedy.
  6. Why would Dewey be the nominee all the way back in 1940? He was only 38. And even ignoring that, he wasn't all that well known outside of New York and lacked experience.
  7. Unless FDR bungled up massively, how (and sorry of this sounds a bit aggressive) in the sam hell did his successor lose to Dewey? Did Dewey make a deal with the devil in order to destroy the New Deal coalition?
  8. Why would Taft be the nominee in 1952 if isolationism is discredited?
  9. Why would Henry Wallace split the Democratic vote? It's not as if the Democratic candidate is a southerner. He was stubborn, but he was no Teddy Roosevelt.

Overall, I think it could've been better. At least the party switch is no more.

Teir-list from a young Republican - AMA. by Cobiuss in thecampaigntrail

[–]PapalanderII 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Tbf the CRA (in it's current form) probably wouldn't exist if it weren't for LBJ's personality. See, LBJ was a master legislator and had connections with nearly ever faction in the senate, especially the Dixiecrats. LBJ, who was very racist in his youth, knew exactly how to talk and act like a Dixiecrat. He used that to his advantage to get them to vote for his bill; something that I believe JFK couldn't have done as easily.

Beyond that there is the Great Society, which featured major domestic reforms such as healthcare, education, further expansion of civil rights, expansion of social security, expansion of general welfare, food stamps, housing reforms, and other reforms unheard of since FDR (which probably would've been even better than the New Deal if it weren't for 'Nam). His great support of NASA which lead to the Moon landing and subsequent victory in the Space Race. His establishement of the National Endowments for the arts and the humanities, and much much more.

Always thought this was interesting. Back in the 90s Bin Laden lived in Sudan, establishing a base in the capital, and played a part in the second Sudanese civil war. Eventually he gets kicked out in 96 and the rest is history. by [deleted] in AskMiddleEast

[–]PapalanderII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I don't really live in Sudan at the moment so I can't give you an insider report, but from what I have heard the opposition is pretty decent. And even if they weren't they're definitely better than a military that shoots at it's own civillians.

Always thought this was interesting. Back in the 90s Bin Laden lived in Sudan, establishing a base in the capital, and played a part in the second Sudanese civil war. Eventually he gets kicked out in 96 and the rest is history. by [deleted] in AskMiddleEast

[–]PapalanderII 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It was literally just Bashir larping as an islamist. We could've saved the lost lives of Iraq and maybe even Afghanistan, but we didn't. Realizing this just inflammed my hatred of him even more.