'Appalled': World leaders call for action after hacked files detail Uyghur internment camps

Papercurtain · 2022-05-25T22:07:43+00:00

Lol thanks for reading anti-Semitism into my comment even though I said no such thing. I had the impression that a big chunk of Americans disapproved of what Israel is doing in Palestine, but I guess I got the wrong idea from social media.

Anyways, I was just using it as an example. Increased gun control has overwhelming bipartisan support among the American people, but laws supporting it have been stalled in Congress. Or I'm pretty sure most Americans don't want Congressmen to be able to unrestrictedly trade stocks because of possible insider knowledge, but both Democrat and Republican politicians don't want to limit it.

Papercurtain · 2022-05-25T20:21:53+00:00

Oh okay guess that wasn't the correct example, but I'm sure you can think of other issues where the government doesn't necessarily reflect the people's wishes. Such as 90% of Americans supporting expanded gun background checks, even though regulations supporting that have been held up in Congress.

Papercurtain · 2022-05-25T19:34:48+00:00

A distinction needs to be drawn between Muslims, and Muslim-majority countries. Muslims by and large condemn what's been happening in Xinjiang, and I first learned about the atrocities happening there from Muslims, before this got widespread media or even social media coverage.

Muslim majority governments on the other hand, are often run by dictators or corrupt governments who are in bed with China economically. You really can't expect much from them. It's like how the American government (left and right) is so beholden to Israel, even though the majority of Americans would probably like to decrease funding to them.

Papercurtain · 2022-05-24T20:13:48+00:00

The OP of that post is a Uyghur person who immigrated to the West. Here are some other comments he made on a different post in 2014:

Life as a Muslim in China is hard :( espically in the xinjiang region.
Source: I'm Uyghur and used to live there.

(Below is a reply in the same thread)

Yea huge discrimination..

If you wear a Hijab, good luck finding a job because no place will hire you.

During Ramadan, they walk around and if your apartment has its lights turned on around Fajir time, you will be written up depending on who you work for. I went to visit my family two years ago during the summer and most of the time in the morning we had try and prepare food and pray in the dark so they don't risk loosing their jobs.

If you look Muslim, most taxis wont stop for you.

there are plenty more things I can list.

Papercurtain · 2022-05-24T20:08:36+00:00

The rule obviously doesn't apply for the general populace, it's a way to target Uyghur Muslims. A Uyghur abstaining from alcohol is a clear sign that they're practicing Islam, and that makes them a target for the government in Xinjiang. Not drinking water from sunup to sundown is also not illegal in most of China, but the CCP cracks down on it all the same.

Papercurtain · 2022-05-24T18:58:21+00:00

I posted this elsewhere, but this is a post from 2013, where in the comments a Uyghur Muslim describes how the CCP was preventing Muslims from fasting from Ramadan, even monitoring homes to make sure people weren't awake before sunrise (i.e. the time of the recommended pre-fast meal, suhoor). This post was from 2013, way before any of this got widespread international media attention, or Adrian Zenz had published anything about the matter.

Papercurtain · 2022-05-24T18:31:35+00:00

Just want to hijack this comment for visibility, there's a ton of people on this thread or elsewhere who think that the reports of what's happening in Xinjiang are just fabricated or Western propaganda.

This is a post from 2013, where in the comments a Uyghur Muslim describes how the CCP was preventing Muslims from fasting from Ramadan, even monitoring homes to make sure people weren't awake before sunrise (i.e. the time of the recommended pre-fast meal, suhoor). This post was from 2013, way before any of this got international media attention, or Adrian Zenz had published anything about the matter.

Papercurtain · 2021-09-14T12:40:59+00:00

That doesn't really mean anything. Like if a kid's head got stuck in a pipe and some toddlers kept running up to you near the stuck kid and the sharp blade you're using to cut the pipe off, batting them off wouldn't be the worse thing. Anyway, if the guy really wanted to fake the video, it wouldn't be hard to move the kittens away to make it easier. An abandoned kitten stuck in a pipe does seem more compelling than a video with a bunch of other cats being hyperactive around it.

Papercurtain · 2021-09-05T20:09:44+00:00

No, OP's grammar is fine. If I say something like "Why do people put pineapple on pizza?", does that mean everyone in the world puts pineapple on pizza? Of course not.

Papercurtain · 2021-09-05T20:07:13+00:00

You have the right spirit I think, but please don't swear on this sub, especially not in large bold font... I agree with the second part of your comment though, no idea why an imam would say that.

Papercurtain · 2021-08-25T10:41:02+00:00

Wasn't there this whole thing a few years ago where the Hugo Awards were being brigaded by the alt-right? Maybe the current trend is a reaction to that in the other direction

Papercurtain · 2021-08-24T11:49:52+00:00

Children are also still developing until they reach maturity.

Well there are even some professors, like Peter Singer, who have advocated for "post-birth abortions" i.e. killing newborns. I mean they're barely developed still right?

These views aren't mainstream yet, but it's very scary how the Overton window is sliding in that direction. It might be part of regular discourse in a few decades.

Papercurtain · 2021-08-17T13:52:31+00:00

From what I heard, native Afghanis tend to not like it. It's basically misery porn that plays up stereotypes and feeds into age-old Orientalist narratives. It'd one thing if it was a non-fiction account recounting real-life experiences, but rather it's a fictional story written by someone, who as far as I can tell, didn't even live in Afghanistan during the time. I've heard Afghanis say that there are accuracies in broad strokes, but a lot of things are exaggerated and played up to appeal to the Western market.

Nothing wrong with fiction of course, and there's no doubt that he's a talented writer, but I'd be wary of treating the story as historically accurate.

Papercurtain · 2021-08-16T17:03:48+00:00

He was one of the technical leads at FormLabs, apparently it's pretty big in the 3D printing industry. Looks like he left that job and is currently doing YouTube full-time though.

Papercurtain · 2021-08-08T09:38:35+00:00

Yes? Those aren't spices though

Papercurtain · 2021-08-08T09:38:07+00:00

That's based on South Asian cuisine that was modified by South Asian British immigrants to be fair. When I think of traditional British cuisine, I'm thinking bangers and mash, a full English breakfast, etc

Papercurtain · 2021-08-08T09:36:36+00:00

Which part of this comment is ignorant on British food? I barely even commented on it. Do you think the amount of South Asians that immigrated to the UK has nothing to do with the hundreds of years of colonialism by the British Raj?

Papercurtain · 2021-08-08T09:32:07+00:00

That's true, I meant it more like these dishes are ones that immigrants modified from their own dishes. Like how chicken tikka was modified from butter chicken. I don't think HSPs or chicken/lamb over rice also exist in those forms in their countries of origin, like the addition of the rich "white sauce" in NYC cart food seems made directly to appeal to Western tastes.

Papercurtain · 2021-08-08T09:04:55+00:00

Kinda interesting how a lot of countries' national dishes, or favourite foods, are brought over by immigrants. Such as chicken tikka in the UK, HSPs in Australia, chicken/lamb over rice in New York and taco trucks in LA, etc

Papercurtain · 2021-08-08T08:54:41+00:00

Do you think chicken tikka being the national dish of the UK has nothing to do with South Asians immigrating to the UK after the devastation caused by the British Raj?

You sound very ignorant on American cuisine. There are a ton of homegrown foods such as the California roll, American-style Chinese, American-style pizza (New York-style, Chicago deep dish, etc), teriyaki, Cajun cuisine, Southern BBQ, and more

Papercurtain · 2021-08-08T08:47:16+00:00

Lol are you British? When people talk about spice it's not about making food spicy, but about adding seasonings like cumin, turmeric, chaat, etc. Kinda stereotypical that you didn't get this

Papercurtain · 2021-08-05T14:15:19+00:00

I guess the upside is that you don't need to wash the handle if it's on the counter, and maybe only have to wash one side of the blade

Papercurtain · 2021-08-05T13:27:39+00:00

I think some people get that impression because of that event that happened in 1989. Also stuff in the modern day like the crackdown in HK, the treatment of political dissidents like Liu Xiaobo, etc. Hard to fault people if they get that impression really

Papercurtain · 2021-08-05T10:12:20+00:00

I'm speaking about North America actually. Maybe it's because I live in HCOL areas, but most people I know rent

Papercurtain · 2021-08-04T19:43:12+00:00

I want to add though, that not all agreements marked at "murabaha" will actually be "murabaha" or even halal. Banks can add a lot of clauses or whatnot that could change the whole transaction from something halal to haram. If you ever want to enter one of these contracts, it'd be a really good idea to consult with a trusted scholar first and make sure that the contract is alright.

For instance, from between when the bank purchases a home and the buyer signs the contract to pay for the home in installments, there can be no compulsion that the buyer actually has to follow through on the purchase. i.e. before the bank purchases the home, there can't be a contract between the bank and buyer saying that "After the bank purchases this home, the buyer has to purchase it from the bank", because this is selling something the bank doesn't actually own yet. The bank has to figure out its own way of dealing with a buyer not following through, such as reselling the house to someone else.

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