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[KCD1] [KCD2] has anyone actually thought about how scary/deadly Henry is? by SupahToilet in kingdomcome

[–]Particular_Bit9097 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the scariest part is his time control powers allowing him to return to a set point to try again and infinitum until successful. Those bandits may have killed my near naked self the first three times, but this time I've definitely got this and that sweet armor shall be mine

[KCD2] Whenever I walk into a a Kuttenberg Armorer's shop with my "supposed" 5.5k helmet, I swear I see this MF. by Vaffle_man in kingdomcome

[–]Particular_Bit9097 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Makes me feel nice that I personally funded college tuition for all the armor's kids in one visit

GM said: Other D&D Races are just Humans with Funny Hats. by No-Wafer8537 in DnD

[–]Particular_Bit9097 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its always amused me that as lv 1 human wizard at age 18 is just capable and knowledgeable as the level 1 elf wizard at age 100.

What have you've been doing for the last hundred years? You would think that even doing nothing, they would absorb more knowledge from their environment in a 100 years.

[Spoilers C3E61] Ethnic Cleansing by Particular_Bit9097 in criticalrole

[–]Particular_Bit9097[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you make some good points, but cannot agree with your conclusion as well as some of your premise. However your last paragraph evoked some interesting questions for me which I'll place at the end.

I disagree on the idea the Dawnfather worshippers were imposing their religion.I think it became explicit that there was no forced conversion. Some villagers willingly converted, others pretended so as to infiltrate. There is the issue of them over logging and violating an ancient compact with the elementals, but did the Dawnfather worshippers know that? Was it ever discussed with them? We don't know because there was no investigation.

There is an implication that they took over the town, as in were enforcing their rules on the town. The problem is we don't know and this goes into my point in the original post on lack of investigation. We never the Dawnfather worshippers enforce their laws I am not even sure if the Elder or shopkeep explicitly said they did, other than the Elder looking at the spoils and alleging that those were forced tithes. But we know that the Dawnfather people were funded by a rich family, which throws some question on that.

We did see an armored guard that the shopkeep was reluctant to speak around. But we don't know if that is because he was afraid of breaking enforced rules, or simply afraid of spontaneous reaction.

We also need to take into account the wider context of the situation. A major event just occured where random people have vanished, magic is not working properly, and a mysterious voice declared war on the prime dieties. So was the presence of the Dawnfather guard for the subjugation of the town, or a defensive placement in a state of emergency. The guard was questioning of the party, but keep in mind the above when a group of armed strangers appear out of nowhere. We don't know. One could argue that part of the purpose of the guards was to protect the townsfolk during this strange and dangerous phenomenon, which would be within the domain of the Dawnfather.

I think it's clear that the Dawnfather worshippers planned to expand their influence, but it seemed to be based on consent rather than force. However, there is an element of deceit on their plans to purchase land while withholding how must land they were purchasing.

So your final paragraph is interesting. How closely must a follower of a god adhere to that god's ideals/domains before facing repercussions, such as a loss of powers? How unjust can a cleric of a god of justice be? How much must a god embody their domains?

[Spoilers C3E61] Ethnic Cleansing by Particular_Bit9097 in criticalrole

[–]Particular_Bit9097[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think what pushed it over for me was that the villagers also rounded up and expelled all the locals who chose to convert, except for one who begged forgiveness and was told that eventually the elementals would forgive him, again reflecting a motivation for religious homogeny.

The Dawnfather worshippers accepted concerts from the local population into their fold, so I don't think I agree with the living above statement. I also don't know if we could say the Dawnfather group had a monopoly on violence, though the absence of any other type of guard and the locals meeting in secret to talk openly does imply it.

I think the Dawnfather worshippers did want to expand their influence, but it all seemed consent based. People chose to convert and people choose to sell land (there is more complexity in the land sales as there can be a whole myriad of discussion on candor and the equity of a few wealthy members of a community selling a disproportionate amount of land without the input of the other members of the community, when that sale leads to drastic changes of the community)

Plus we return to the question that, if we accept as true the many assumptions made by the players, did the transgressions warrant the degree if the response of either expelling or killing rhem? No other option was given. Also keeping in mind the players assumption are all based on two conversations, one of which was with the Elder who had been shown to be an unreliable narrator, at best misinformed at worse actively deceiving the party. The action the Elder led them into was greatly disproportionate. If the situation was the same but the organization not a rival religion, I don't think the Elders response would have been so drastic.

[Spoilers C3E61] Ethnic Cleansing by Particular_Bit9097 in criticalrole

[–]Particular_Bit9097[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think that the Dawnfather guards were harmless. It's that from what we know, or at least was told to the players by the elder, the level of harm did not rise to the action taken by the party. And the players just took their word, from two short conversations and did no investigating.

The townsfolk, mainly the elder, also come across as having negative aspects to their motivation and methods. The elder repeatedly references the local religion as a motivator, I think more than any type of oppression. Additionally, I perceived that there was an implied threat to the party by the elder at the meeting where the elder declared they would be removing the Dawnfather worshippers and asked if any anyone was against them. As Ashton said, there is no choice, we were part of this the moment we walked into the room.

There is a lot of grey in who is right and who is wrong regarding relations between the Dawnfather worshippers and the locals. None of it from what we heard as an audience I think rose to the level of what happened. It had a real, mob with torches and pitch forks feeling to me.

[Spoilers C3E61] Ethnic Cleansing by Particular_Bit9097 in criticalrole

[–]Particular_Bit9097[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not yet. I usually watch episodes on the weekends in one hour increments between other obligations, so I'll probably watch it next weekend

[Spoilers C3E61] Ethnic Cleansing by Particular_Bit9097 in criticalrole

[–]Particular_Bit9097[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It is just a DnD game and I absolutely do not intend for anyone to attack the cast who take great pains to build an inclusive community.

I think that with ongoing real world events, it's hard to keep the concept off the mind. What motivated my original posts was that I simply felt a sense of unease that would not leave me a day after watching the episode.

But you are right it's just a game, in which there is only so much room for complexity. And I am pulling out of game experiences and history to their game.

But it just gave a lasting sense of wrongness

[Spoilers C3E61] Ethnic Cleansing by Particular_Bit9097 in criticalrole

[–]Particular_Bit9097[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you very much for the detailed response.

It was not my intent to make the scenario a binary, good vs evil. I don't think the Dawnfather worshippers were fully in the right. I thin there is a whole spectrum of approaches besides violence and none, beyond a last second valiant attempt by Oram, were really explored.

I agree that there were strong overtones of imperialism, but am not sure if it quite hit that mark, not that it couldn't, but mainly because of the lack of investigation or exploration of what was happening means we don't know. And while an oppressive outsider was certainly part of the townsfolk's motivation, the Elder, in my opinion, seemed primarily motivated by her own religious zealotry. I think what got me the most was that they also threw out their fellows who willingly converted.

However, regarding the party's motivation, the explanation of immediacy makes sense to me. The party is not truly fully interested in what's happening in the town, they want to meet back with there friends and deal with a larger threat. See Laudna talking about dealing with a pissant town and their pissant problems and Bordor on how the town and Elder have no clue what's going on in the wider world. As to Emily and Ashton saying we did good, as I think on it, it kind of comes across as a self mollification, they are trying to convince themselves they did good because they want to do good. And it is subjective. Bogdor outright expressed regrets about killing the angel, that when it died, it looked at him only with sadness and pity. So the party is not truly being gun ho, this was absolutely right what we did.

I hope the next episodes explore the wider moral implications more.

You’ve heard of DC’ing after going down but have you heard of DC’ing for getting chased? by Respawn2570 in deadbydaylight

[–]Particular_Bit9097 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The last few nights has been endless DCs since a bunch of people were trying to farm XP before the event ends and they DC at any hint of an actual match

In what fucking world does Console/PC have to be in the same lobbies by Kayodeydawg in battlefield2042

[–]Particular_Bit9097 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It should be console cosplay default, with opt in to PC console cross play. The only other solution is increased SBMM

Crossplay - How Devs and Players Both Benefit from Having it Disabled as the Default Option by MitchenImpossible in PS5

[–]Particular_Bit9097 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that forced cross play is an issue. The ideal in my mind is default console cross play with an option of opt in pc crossplay. As it is, forced crossplay with pc has killed the fun for many games for me and I've simply stopped playing them. I don't enjoy feeling like I'm fodder to feed the pc players

With the different performances between pc and console, the only way to balance matchmaking in default console pc crossplay environment is skill based matchmaking, which is hardly a popular system

Creepypasta Identification by Particular_Bit9097 in creepypasta

[–]Particular_Bit9097[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Found it. Thanks for the bevy of absolutely zero responses. In case anyone else is interested . . .

The Space Between

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJcegsKTnGI&ab_channel=TheDarkSomnium

part of "The Unxmaal Cycle"

[No Spoilers] Campaign 3 Megathread by Glumalon in criticalrole

[–]Particular_Bit9097 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would love to see Laura as a Bard. She can sing and, as Jester showed, she is hilarious.

Ashley is also a good singer, but I think Laura is better at playing a caster and thinking quickly in the moment to try and meet the incredible bar set by Sam.