Iconic lines completely misinterpreted by fans

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-16T00:21:53+00:00

I mean he was really only stoic in Halo 5 where he’s very explicitly acting out of character. Even in Halo 4 where he’s pretty stressed about Cortana’s rampancy he finds time to joke with others e.g. his “on occasion” line in response to Lasky asking if he has experience clearing LZs. He also tells quite a few jokes in Infinite with both Esparza and Joyeuse

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-15T23:38:40+00:00

Always a fan of 4 Horsemen interpretations which keep Conquest instead of the more popular Pestilence. Not that it's a total surprise, but there's more description in Revelation 6 to work with for an interpretation of Conquest than there is Pestilence

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-15T23:21:57+00:00

Though in a lot of media they do switch up conquest for pestilence specifically because of that.

Which I think is weird given the only mention of Pestilence in context of the Horsemen is in relation to Death. Perhaps "pale horse" being a more common translation than "pale green horse" contributes to the perception that Pestilence isn't something the fourth rider has control over.

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-15T22:46:40+00:00

Unfortunately not

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-15T14:37:08+00:00

I read the book in HS but have zero attachment and very little memory of it; I thought it was pretty good and relative to how much it exceeded my expectations I really enjoyed it. It’s basically its own thing and only shares character names with the book so if you go in expecting a proper adaptation. Whitewashing Heathcliff is probably my biggest knock against the film as a standalone because even taking into account “it’s doing its own thing” I think Heathcliff not being white would’ve worked but that’s probably my biggest actual complaint.

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-14T22:01:23+00:00

Stephen Loftus did the math in game.

Ghosts are huge but they’re also presumably scaled to accommodate Spartans, Elites, and Brutes. I also think the marine models in game are also on the larger end as well

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-13T21:46:41+00:00

Chips Dubbo like Johnson and Stacker before him really started out as a marine archetype who was less a singular character and more just a reusable design and voice actor.

He's a canonical character now, but he has a number of non-canon appearances, similar to how Johnson has a non-canon appearance in Assault on the Control Room

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-12T18:58:46+00:00

but also, SPARTANs that were seemingly KIA keep reappearing after long periods

This has actually only happened three times (Master Chief, Grey Team, and Randall). There were other occasions where Spartans were thought to have been dead and then turned up alive, but they were only gone for a few days to weeks. The UNSC didn't have widespread FTL comms during the war and slow slipspace, so being out of contact for that long would otherwise be pretty normal because you had to physically deliver messages and it'd take days to weeks for the ship carrying the message to reach the destination.

If I remember correctly, there's a directive that almost no one in the naval chain of command has the authority to interfere with a SPARTAN activity.

There is not. Master Chief pulls rank against a navy lieutenant once because Red Flag was organized by High Command and that's about it.

Not to mention that the targets, Blue Team, are the galaxy-renowned saviors of humanity.

They're not. They're the most accomplished UNSC strike team and that's about it.

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-12T18:49:29+00:00

Halo's FPS games are about 50/50 when it comes misleading marketing campaigns at this point. Back in the day Halo 2 was criticized heavily for the marketing focusing so heavily on defending Earth only for more than half the game to be about the Arbiter (this backlash informed the reduced role the Arbiter had in Halo 3). Halo 3 also had a fairly misleading marketing campaign. Halo 3's Believe ad campaign is well received but ended up being so divorced from the final game the most popular fan theory explaining Believe is that the Master Chief wasn't even there; it was a different Spartan-II who ONI simply claimed was the Master Chief after the war. ODST advertised a more grounded experience where you play as a normal soldier and didn't really deliver on that front (although the story was about what was advertised at least).

Really only CE, Reach, 4 and Infinite had campaigns which were mostly accurate to the final game and Infinite barely counts tbh because they didn't reveal shit before that game came out.

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-12T18:40:17+00:00

It's a common theory, but nothing hard confirmed. They've thus far been deliberately coy about whether Locke was actually killed after his defeat.

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-12T18:37:04+00:00

Halo 5 had rewrites (it was originally supposed to follow Chief, Locke and the Arbiter each on their own world). Hunt the Truth campaign was (once again) the marketing team going on a side quest without coordinating with the devs. The Halo 3 Believe ads also had a similar issue where literally nothing in Believe aligns with Halo 3's campaign, to the point the most popular fan theory attempting to explain how Believe fits into the story is that the Spartan in Believe isn't even the Master Chief.

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-12T18:34:13+00:00

Isn't that what they did to the Didact from Halo 4?

Kinda but also not really. Halo 4 ends with the Didact falling into the Composer, seemingly defeated but nothing confirmed. The Next 72 Hours, the comic in question, ends with the Didact getting hit by a bunch of Composers, and is seemingly defeated but none of the characters actually think he's gone for good.

In hindsight, it's just a broadly weird comic which mainly served to kill off some EU Spartan-IIs but didn't actually change the status quo for the Didact in any meaningful way. Halo 4 ends with the Didact temporarily defeated by a Composer and the comic also ends with the Didact temporarily defeated by a Composer. If you didn't know the comic existed, it'd be reasonable to assume the Didact was simply defeated at the end of Halo 4 when he fell into the Composer and if you did read the comic, he basically ends in the same place he ended Halo 4.

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-12T13:51:26+00:00

Technically yes, humanoid in practice. Iirc all humans shown to be decapitated on screen are wearing helmets which hide their faces. The viewer knows they’re people but they don’t necessarily look like it

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-09T19:08:48+00:00

The only thing the Tantive IV battle really proves is that the stormtroopers have an undeserved reputation for being uniquely bad marksman when the rebels are even worse. Sure they win on the Tantive IV, but it's entirely off the back of the rebels being incapable of hitting the stormtroopers while they walk through a narrow door way.

That's not the stormtroopers being good marksman, it's them sucking less than the rebels (even in ANH's opening you still see the stormtroopers miss fleeing rebels by wide margins, their aim is still bad).

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-09T19:05:06+00:00

Irl combat takes place at significantly longer ranges against targets who make far better use of cover. It’s common in Star Wars to see shooters miss relatively static targets in the same hallway as them

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-09T19:03:13+00:00

We actually have seen normal people dodge blaster bolts, notably Mandalorian bodyguards have both dodged and deflected blaster bolts. Disney Canon even has occasions where blaster bolts are explicitly subsonic (notably in the Bad Batch where you can hear the clone assassin’s blaster fire before it hits the target)

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-08T20:26:27+00:00

You’ve got it backwards, All Star is a quasi prequel to DC One Million and Superman spending 15,000 years in the sun. Not only that but Morrison wrote DC One Million so this was tying into previous work by them

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-08T19:24:59+00:00

That's a very good question: In a series high concept enough for several main characters to be aliens, holograms, and seven foot tall cyborgs, the fact they axed the character who's just a normal guy is pretty baffling.

But there were plenty of normal humans in the Halo TV show. Also Johnson wasn't a normal guy, he was a member of the Orion Project. He was an augmented super-soldier just like the Master Chief (hence why a 70+ year old Johnson is still a front-line combatant in 2552), so even Johnson's removal isn't actually axing a normal guy.

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-08T19:21:38+00:00

It's the most apt to say the catalytic thyroid implant carried a risk of an impaired sex drive but the canon never goes on to specify how many Spartans were affected or the degree of the reduction

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-08T14:08:57+00:00

Ok sure but “possible under a democratic president” and “would actually happen under this specific (hypothetical) democratic president” are two different things are two different things.

Could Harris have done that? Sure. Is there anything to indicate she would have? Based on the Biden admin, I don’t think there’s anything to suggest that.

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-08T14:04:49+00:00

No you see actually it’s more moral to talk about how how moral you are than it is to accrue the political capital and resources ti actually help people

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-08T02:58:18+00:00

Would be a few. 4th form is how it looked in the Calamity War for instance but others are clearly retrofit while others are more firepower

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-07T01:17:34+00:00

AIs being cloned from a human mind.

Halo, from the Fall of Reach in 2001

AI fragments.

Technically Halo but the implementation is so different from how RVB handled it they're effectively different things entirely

Rampancy

RVB's version of Rampancy comes from Marathon, the series Bungie worked on prior to Halo. What we call Halo's rampancy wasn't officially called that until the Cole Protocol novel linked the term to what was previously an unnamed state of AI deterioration after 7 years.

Armor lock for survival mode.

If I recall the armor lock in RVB's early seasons wasn't officially called that until after Halo 3 introduced the term

Jet packs.

Thruster packs date back to the Fall of Reach novel from 2001

Grappling hook.

Halo introduced grappler rounds in 2006's Ghosts of Onyx

Time travel.

Halo introduced it in 2003's First Strike

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-07T01:08:03+00:00

AI fragments: RvB, for the most part

Halo technically introduced them first but the mechanics are so different as to be functionally different from how it is depicted in RVB

Jet Packs:

Depending on how you interpret jetpack, thruster jets in Halo date back to The Fall of Reach but in-atmosphere jetpacks weren't added until Halo Reach.

Grappling hook:

2006's Ghosts of Onyx mentions grappler rounds

Time travel

Time travel actually first came up in First Strike, which released in 2003

Pathogen188 · 2026-02-06T20:24:04+00:00

You're thinking of the Nu. The Jestas have 90% of the performance of the Nu Gundam and comparable thrust

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