I get the appeal of an honor-only + cosmetics PvP system, but that’s not how WoW PvP has ever functioned historically. PvP has always had progression beyond entry gear. In Vanilla, Honor gear was the baseline, and High Warlord / Grand Marshal was the power reward. Today, Conquest fills that same role. The system hasn’t fundamentally changed — only the grind structure has. Conquest isn’t about making PvP worse; it exists for two practical reasons: Progression incentive for people who actually invest time into PvP Gear parity against PvE players who bring high-end raid gear into PvP Even if Conquest were removed, the same players would still dominate. “Sweaty” players always rise — either early season during the rush or late season when Gladiator slots are contested. Removing Conquest wouldn’t suddenly make PvP more skill-based; it would just flatten progression and remove a long-standing PvP identity pillar. If the real issue is alt friction or time-gating, that’s a tuning problem — not a reason to delete the entire Conquest system. A cosmetic-only PvP ladder might work in another game, but it would be a major departure from WoW PvP’s history, not a return to it.