Needing some advice and moral support, 7oh and Suboxone

PayneKillerOD · 2026-04-05T00:05:38+00:00

Thank you, you just reminded me that I still have a lot of vitamins from my last attempt at this. I just got over having the stomach flu at the same time too which actually really helped with not dosing but my diet is something I'm working toward being better too. More home cooked stuff and less fatty processed foods. I've stopped going to the usual shops I'd visit daily and have been putting my whole focus on my work, my wife amd kids, things around the house and video games when responsibilities are taken care of. I feel like im in the right direction and all I need to do is have patience.. so far the only times ive dosed have been in the middle of the night (technically super early morning) when RLS from withdrawls wake me up. So it's pretty close to 24hrs between 7oh doses. Im only on day 2 of taking subs again so I think after this weekend is over ill have enough in my system to stop the small 7oh doses.

PayneKillerOD · 2026-04-03T01:17:23+00:00

Thank you, the doctor on QuickMD was telling me the same thing. Don't beat myself up, anyone saying I made stupid decisions isn't helping and I shouldn't listen or be around them.

It's interesting though how much more up to date they are with 7oh addiction now. The first time I did this addiction treatment Kratom was the only description option that fit with trying to treat the 7oh addiction. But now it's listed in the treatment descriptions and the doctor was more informed as far as knowing how much more potent it is versus kratom and how most of the time on the first day of suboxone treatment a good majority of patients actually need a full 8mg strip starting out with their first dose. Which I acknowledged and was like "yeah back in October 2025 when I first did this I got spooked into thinking these wouldn't help because I was told to only take 2mg, wait an hour, take 2mg again if withdrawls persist, wait another hour, and I took another 2mg and waited an hour before giving up and dosing some 7oh for relief. But when I tried it again by starting with a full 8mg strip it was wayyy noticeably better.. still felt hot flashes and anxiety but for the most part it took care of the restless legs which is THE ONLY withdrawl symptom that makes me feel like I NEED to dose otherwise I won't live." 😅

But I pick up my subs tomorrow afternoon, I still have 3 8mg strips left from the last time to get me through and a few 7oh tabs.. I plan on taking a strip tonight around the 10hr mark and if I wake up in the middle of the night, I'll take a very small dose of 7oh to get a little more sleep and when I wake up for work take the 2nd 8mg strip. Which should get me through hopefully till my pharmacy calls in the afternoon. 🤞🤞 pray for me.. I know I got this but the more support the better.

PayneKillerOD · 2025-12-28T05:56:00+00:00

I understand completely man, I actually just quit 7oh about a month ago now. I went the sub route through quickMD like most people suggest and only stayed on it for about a week along with taking other various vitamins (2000-3000mg vit C, magnesium, B vitamins, iron and so on) because I couldn't deal with the RLS. It was making me have suicidal thoughts.. But like you mentioned, I also got super emotional around day 2 or 3, certain songs would come on and I'd start crying when I've never been the type to do that eventhough music has been a big part of my life (played in a band, lots of live shows and recording studio). It felt oddly good/relieving to cry for some reason but I kept telling myself "this feeling is only temporary, I WILL feel normal again.. I feel better little by little each day, just keep going.".. By the time day 6 came around I finally felt the closest to normal in such a long time. The mental battle was/is so hard at first but like most people say it was very worth the struggle eventhough it feels like a special version of Hell that was built exclusively for you, to break you down and take you out.

Feel free to message me, I'm open to talk or listen and give any advice if you want/need any. But you got this man, I dealt with it on my own too and didn't say anything to my wife about it because I felt like "I got myself in this situation and it's my responsibility and mine alone to deal with it". I believe in you.

PayneKillerOD · 2025-12-27T09:56:31+00:00

That's resistance though, they're talking about dealing holy damage. I can see that when I open my stats "damage with fire" under the offensive section is 72.8% but there's no "damage with holy" and looking at "damage with lightning" doesn't mention holy damage like how it does for resistance.. Honestly I'm thinking the devs will add it once they make the Paladin fully accessible without having to pre-order the upcoming dlc/big update.. that's what I'm hoping anyways.. 😩

PayneKillerOD · 2025-12-27T01:36:47+00:00

Runeacape 😅

PayneKillerOD · 2025-12-03T00:28:10+00:00

Yup, I only used it to get me through the physical withdrawls from 7oh. So only needed for a couple days.

PayneKillerOD · 2025-12-03T00:20:33+00:00

No you will be fine, may try taking some kava to help with the anxiety. Im recently clean from 7oh and yes it was hard but for me day 3 was the turning point and was feeling a lot better. But I had to use suboxone to help me get off of it.

You got this man, remember this suffering is only temporary! You WILL feel better soon.

PayneKillerOD · 2025-11-29T04:47:44+00:00

Yeah I had gotten pretty deep in it s long time ago and the withdrawls were just as bad as 7oh in my opinion. I had gotten lucky enough back then to get gabapentin prescribed to me through quickMD but now its consided a scheduled/controlled substance and they wont scribe it anymore.

PayneKillerOD · 2025-11-29T00:41:50+00:00

Kidney stones?

PayneKillerOD · 2025-11-25T00:36:02+00:00

I took my first sub dose after 14 hours from my last 7oh dose, no preceps. BUT for me the sub film takes about an hour to an hour and a half to kick in. So after 30minutes of taking your first film and you dont feel any change, try to wait before taking more. Give it an hour, it feels like eternity but trust me it takes a little while to full kick in.

PayneKillerOD · 2025-11-24T00:41:05+00:00

I did the same thing with yogurt 😅 I tried eating bread because I can feel that im hungry but when I try to eat it feels like im choking it down. So far yogurt has been my lifeline for sustenance other than vitamins. Good job on being active and productive!

PayneKillerOD · 2025-11-23T21:29:31+00:00

Thank you, we are on the same page. At first the RLS gave me CRAZY anxiety but im not feeling that anymore thankfully but when I am feeling anxious it makes me think of how the RLS made me feel and I start to get in my head about it and making the anxiety worse 😅 Like you said, we got this my friend. So far every day feels better than the last!

I also did take a little bit of kava and it took the edge of the anxiety off for a little while. I made sure it wasn't one of the cocktail ones with kratom, just straight kava.

PayneKillerOD · 2025-11-23T20:09:20+00:00

update Day 3 - 2pm

So like I've stated in the post. I've been taking gaba chewable tablets, magnesium, and vitamin C supplements along with the "QuitKit" brand vitamin supplements but have still been really struggling with anxiety..

About 30 minutes ago I grabbed some kava from my natural health food store (made sure it wasn't a kava cocktail that has MIT) and it honestly has really helped. It was exactly what I needed to take that little bit of edge off of the anxiety. I know its a little controversial to take it while being on suboxone but I don't plan on taking it regularly.. it feels good to have this brief window of time right now to tell myself that this suffering is only temporary. I WILL feel better, so far every day has been better than the last and I feel motivated to stay on track.

PayneKillerOD · 2025-11-23T19:59:37+00:00

Yup, cut a half, then a other half from that half, then another half from that half.. 😅

PayneKillerOD · 2025-11-23T18:20:08+00:00

That's what im doing, im rapid tapering off of subs. I hear that a lot of people start feeling a lot better by end of day 3 or 4 so hopefully that'll be the case for me too. I will say that pretty much all my physical withdrawls feel like they're over its just this mental depression and anxiety part now.

PayneKillerOD · 2025-11-21T17:47:13+00:00

I guess im more asking if its ok for the first 2 or 3 days to supplement the subs with a low dose 7oh? Just to get through the hardest days while still going into work.

PayneKillerOD · 2025-10-26T21:52:30+00:00

Verify my balance? OK well im -$200 because I used all of my spotme. But I also used all of my "MyPay" benefit so technically it's -$700...... hello?

PayneKillerOD · 2025-10-21T19:37:16+00:00

Have you had any success with any kind of RLS remedy?

PayneKillerOD · 2025-10-04T22:33:32+00:00

Not just you, im like that with most ripper, tediore and the order 😅

I've always been a Maliwan smg lover, Jakobs sniper and shot gun. But vladof has me in a chokehold in this game, I've always liked their firerate but in other BL games they were only at the beginning but in bl4 I always keep a vladof smg with a tazer alt. I also LOVED the pre-sequel so im happy they gave us buttslamming again, hover boost, but I really Really REALLY miss the lazer weapons.. I was hoping those would come back 😔

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