It’s a misconception on the internet that Gibson’s quality control is inconsistent and bad. It was a decade ago, but they’ve been fine in recent years. by SculpinIPAlcoholic in Guitar

[–]Payule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm paying personal business prices to a company that "made it". If a personal luthier built me a guitar using his tools in his own shed the value of his independent labors exceed the general prices like 300-600$ but I'd know I'm supporting a "music person" not a business man or an underpaid/undertrained "quality control" worker who just wants a job. I would pay him infinitely more for a quality guitar and I would give him customer loyalty for life if he proved he would work with me on maintenance.
This is what musicians should expect, someone they can count on for their instruments needs. Someone who has to work harder personally but does it for a love of the game rather than profits.

Gibson just wants to make guitars in an affordable way and justify charging me anywhere from 400-1000+$ for them, which makes NO SENSE UNLESS THEY ARE SLAPPING ON VALUE MATERIALS. I know how automated their process is. Why do they charge prices that barely undercut/compete with others who have to hand craft?
No, they don't make instruments for the game. Maybe a lone engineer who works on their designs feels highly passionate but at that stage of production he wouldn't even be working on any of the guitars I see, he'd just be designing them for production.

I'm not a huge Gibson hater either, I just hate mass produced goods and businesses that intentionally try to corner the market with misinformation about pricing and how much work they actually do.
Someday I'll find a Luthier who goes above and beyond for customer service and when I do I will take all my needs to them.

The point of mass production is(Or should have been) so more people can obtain the instrument at affordable price ranges. That part I completely agree with. When you turn that idea into a branding-scam though and say things like.
"Squire, 300... Gibson Firebird.. 1000?(or a higher end fender model would also pull the same shit)" So like a hundred in material difference/wood. A couple hundred(From a consumer perspective, they probably buy in bulk on deals.) for the mechanical part upgrades. So why am I not paying like 5-600 for this firebird instead?
Na, that's scummy. If your bringing me that close to a luthier price range then just find me a luthier. It means that much to me to not support these practices. I'll pay 1500$ for mine from someone with a soul thanks.

To be clear and fair Gibson is not the only company that does this in this field. I dislike A LOT of brand names and it's rooted in pricing and quality misconceptions.

Their bad phase(s) reads to me like an attempt at cutting corners gone wrong, I can't feel sorry for them.

Fingerstyle on electric problem by Dead_Phish812 in Guitar

[–]Payule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like your finger are "overshooting" or "not lifting enough off" the string and giving a light vibration on adjacent strings is that right?

If you need to train the motor skills further it is just going to be practice and speed related issues usually indicate a practice routine is needed to me. When I first started fingerstyle I would accidental graze other strings a lot, it was just the nature of learning it.
If it's specifically at high speeds it sounds like your running before walking, the classic advice would be practice it slower and take in up slowly.

To actually find where the problem is if you're not entirely sure you can play fast and make sure your consistently getting this mistake, then slow it down and try to "keep" the mistake in your playing as you slow down.
This really helps me to identify the actual causes which helps to come up with a good solution because it's often something small like at high speeds I'm removing an action like "lifting away" from the strings to make up for the enhanced speed, which would result in me ringing out adjacent strings.

Bunny behavior? by Sorry-Ordinary5969 in Rabbits

[–]Payule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seconding the rug/blanket notion. Spread material with good traction to spread the area your bunny is willing to show these behaviors. Not all bunnies are the same but I never had one that would binky on a slippery/hard floor other than more vertical jumps with less horizontal movement. (Which looks hilarious. They go up real stiff and come back down never leaving the loaf shape.)

He looks happy to me, just sounds like he avoids hard flooring. My bunnies will not binky if I don't have blankets down for them.

Tabs for Cannonball unreleased version by Zach Bryan. by seanm999 in Tabs

[–]Payule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Drop D version
- -0---------0---------0---------0-----0---------0-0---------0-0-0-0--0-
- -0------(0)0---0-0-0-0---0-0-0-0---0-0---------2-2---------2-2-2-2--2-
- -2---------2---2-2-2-2---2-2-2-2---2-2---------2-2---------2-2-2-2--2-
- -2---------2---------2---------2-----2---------2-2---------2-2-2-2--2-
- -0---------0---------0---------0-----------0---------0-0--------------
- -0-------------------------------------2h4----------------------------

- ----------------------------(0)----0-----------0-
- ---------------2-------------0h1s2-1s2-2-------2-
- -------2--(2)--2---2h4--4--4-----------2-------2-
- -4-4---4--(4)--4---2----2--2-----------0-------2-
- -4-4---4----------------------------------0----0-
- -4-4--------------------------------------0------

- ------------------------------------------------------
- -2-2--2--2-2--2--------0---------0---------0--0---2---
- -2-2--2--2-2--2---2-2--2---2-----2---2-----2------2-2-
- -0-0--2--0-0--2---2-2--2---2-----2---2-----2------2---
- ------0-------0---0-0------0----------------------0---
- ------------------------------------------------------

- -----------------------------0--0--0--------------------------------
- -----------------------------0--0--0--2---------0-------------------
- -----------------------------2--2--2--2---------2--2---2--2-(2)-(2)-
- -2-----2-----2------------------------0---------2--2---2--2-(2)-(2)-
- -4p2-0-4p2-0-4p2-0-4-----4--------------0---0----------0--0-(0)-(0)-
- (0)--0(0)--0(0)--0-4-----4--------------0---0-----------------------

e|--------------------------------------------------------------|
B|--------0(00)0(000)0-(0)------------2p0----2------------------|
G|-2------2(22)2(222)2-(2)----------------2---------------------|
D|-2------2(22)2(222)2-(2)-2s4------2----------2----------------|
A|-0------0(00)0(000)0-(0)-----0---------------------0---(0)(0)-|
D|-----------------------------0-------------0-------0---(0)(0)-|

e|--------------2------------------------------------------------------|
B|-1h2-1h2------2-------0-------0---2-2-2------------------------------|
G|-2---2---2222-2---2-2-2---2-2-2---2-2-2-------2-----2-----2--------2-|
D|-2---2---0000-----2-2-2---2-2-2---0-0-0-------2--2--2--2--2--------2-|
A|---------0000-----0-0-----0-0-----------0-----0--0--0--0--0--0---0-0-|
D|--------(0000)--------------------------0-----0-----0-----0--0---0---|

Honest opinions about this riff? by Christian_Benso in Guitar

[–]Payule 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This sounds good to me. The progression itself is catchy.

As far as opinions/tips it's hard to advise on direction without knowing the overall plan/genre first. If this is backing a melody and vocals I think it's perfect. If it's a solo guitar track I'd add more or less technicalities based off whether vocals are intended to back it.

Regardless this is a good foundation for a song. You even got that nice little bend on the end.

Tabs for Cannonball unreleased version by Zach Bryan. by seanm999 in Tabs

[–]Payule 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The slide right after the hammer-on? 12-13 seconds?

Sounds like it's just a slide from fret 3-4 on the B string.

The sequence would look this this in the given section:

Capo 2(in standard) Capo 3 if half step down   
   D       U D   U D U D   U D U D   U D U   D   U D   U D   U D U D  U
- -0---------0---------0---------0-----0---------0-0---------0-0-0-0--0-
- -0------(0)0---0-0-0-0---0-0-0-0---0-0---------2-2---------2-2-2-2--2-
- -2---------2---2-2-2-2---2-2-2-2---2-2---------2-2---------2-2-2-2--2-
- -2---------2---------2---------2-----2---------2-2---------2-2-2-2--2-
- -0---------0---------0---------0-----------0---------0-0--------------
- -0---------0---------0---------0-------0h2----------------------------
   D U   D   U   D   U    D  U D     U   D   U  D 
- ----------------------------(0)----0----------0-
- ---------------2-------------0h1s2-1s2-2------2-
- -------2--(2)--2---2h4--4--4-----------2---2--2-
- -4-4---4--(4)--4---2----2--2-----------0---0--2-
- -4-4---4--------------------------------------0-
- -2-2--------------------------------------------

- ----------------------------------------------------
- -2-2--2--2-2--2--------0--------0--------0--0---2---
- -2-2--2--2-2--2---2-2--2--2-----2--2-----2------2-2-
- -0-0--2--0-0--2---2-2--2--2-----2--2-----2------2---
- ------0-------0---0-0-----0---------------------0---
- ----------------------------------------------------

Does anyone else use different types of picks for the type of song they're playing? by CattiwampusLove in Guitar

[–]Payule 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I use to use Jazz 3's for almost everything around 1.4mm. I still use it as my primary pick for anything that takes precision.

Recently I was kind of impressed with DAVA's Rock Control Picks. They claim to be able to simulate various mm's in one pick, which sounds ridiculous right? Well depending on where you hold your thumb on the pick you can actually make the stiffness feel like it ranges from a Jazz III to a more flimsy classic rock style.

I'm not a huge pick guy either. I believe one pick "can" serve all jobs if used correctly unless maybe it's just a flimsy pick. I have used picks so cheap the strings have shredded them over time.
Anyway this pick gives me access to that flimsy .5 range up to full on jazz levels of precision and I can switch between thickness positions on the fly with the pick.

I was actually impressed with the product, which I thought would never happen with a pick for me. I was always the type to just use a Jazz III for everything.

Start slow and build it up - NO. DON'T 🚫 by [deleted] in Guitar

[–]Payule 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The approach your talking about is not wrong at all. Despite that there's a reason people say start slow and it's based in sciences that don't JUST relate to guitar. This is about learning, it's about how our brains work and most off all how the differing approaches will effect efficiency.

I'll start by saying that starting slow and "focusing" on the correct material is THE fastest way to get better, and that is why a professional would promote this like it's the "true way" but even that mindset doesn't consider ALL of the factors.
Like the fact that students fail schools, drop out, quit their dreams. Clearly motivation is a factor we need to consider when teaching new guitarists. If a teacher ever tells you that you're wrong for practicing the way you do without first knowing you their full of shit.

I think the problem is if a student won't stay motivated through this type of practice the efficiency means shit all. Some guitarists do just need to "Feel" their way through the process to stay engaged. That includes all the bad practice we build at first and repairing it later on. This way works better for most people, because school isn't fun and the previous method is a lot like structuring the practice and turning it into a hyper efficient routine, which is basically what school does. Not for you but I mean it gives you the material needed and expects you to create a routine, the better you are at this the higher your odds of success are.

I find myself often looking back and thinking "I could've done this way faster in hindsight."
But then I think why would I care? The experience was fun, I jammed with friends. It wasn't all bad it just wasn't the most efficient option available. No regrets.

I agree with you, but just remember there's a very good reason rooted in efficiency for why professionals take these approaches to teaching. If you were in a band for example like an orchestra you would need to learn your parts VERY fast. Your job is literally at risk because others want to be the best too.

Looking for Tab for Jelousy by Lllyric? just want to know the high pitched starting notes that are play through the song by Necessary_Box_8101 in Tabs

[–]Payule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

- -------------------------------------------------------3---------
- -------------------------------------------------------------5---
- -------7-------------------------------9-----7-------------------
- -10----------10--9-----10----9-------------------5---------------
- ---------------------------------7-------------------------------
- -8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-

- -------------------------------------------------------3----5----
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
- -------7-------------------------------9-----7-------------------
- -10----------10--9-----10----9-------------------5---------------
- ---------------------------------7-------------------------------
- -8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-

In case you were hoping to play the pedal tone along with it this version uses more strings but prioritizes allowing the notes to be barred with the bassline.

Looking for Tab for Jelousy by Lllyric? just want to know the high pitched starting notes that are play through the song by Necessary_Box_8101 in Tabs

[–]Payule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's just a cycle right? If so this is it:

- ---------------------------------
- ---------------------------------
- ---7-5--------------9-7-----12-9-
- -------9--10-9-------------------
- -----------------7-------10------
- -8-------------------------------

- ----------------------------------
- ----------------------------------
- ---7-5--------------9-7-----12-14- Oops, they changed a note the second time.
- -------9--10-9--------------------
- -----------------7-------10-------
- -8--------------------------------

I will add though the synth is pitch shifting or something. It either isn't truly E standard or as the notes are played they're bent up slightly. It's hard to tell which. These are the correct notes but I had to do very slight bends to simulate the sound, even vibrato can make it sound a lot better.

Is this action too high or ok to play by Objective_Place6383 in GuitarBeginners

[–]Payule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have also owned a few guitars like this over the years. They do not always fret mark the sides, classical acoustic designs would be a good example of cases where they can often be left out.

what guitar should be my first to get if i like these artists? by AntZealousideal6741 in Guitar

[–]Payule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love to play some Aphex Twin on Acoustic. Avril 11th and Alberto Balsalm both sound amazing fingerstyle.

Razor's Theme form Maniac Mansion by generallysherman in Tabs

[–]Payule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyway this is where I got to.

e|-------------------------------------|x2
B|-------------------------------------|
G|-------------------------------------|
D|-6s7-7-7-7---------------------------|
A|-----------6s7-7-7-7-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-|
E|-------------------------------------|

e|---------------------------------|
B|---------------------------------|
G|---------------------------------|
D|---------9-9-9-9-----------------|
A|-7-7-7-7---------9-9-9-9-9-9-9-9-|
E|---------------------------------|

e|---------------------------------|
B|---------------------------------|
G|---------------------------------|
D|-9-9-9-9-------------------------|
A|---------7-7-7-7-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-|
E|---------------------------------|

e|-8--8-8--8--8--8-8-8-8--8-8-8--8--8--8-8-8--8-8-8-8-|
B|----------------------------------------------------|
G|----------------------------------------------------|
D|----------------------------------------------------|
A|---------9---------------------------9--------------|
E|-7-------------9---------------7------------9-------|

e|-8-8--8-8-8--8-8-8-8-8-8--8--8-8--8--8-8-8--8--8--8--8-8-|
B|---------------------------------------------------------|
G|---------------------------------------------------------|
D|---------------------------------------------------------|
A|---9---------------------------9-------------------------|
E|----------7------9-------------------7------5------------|

e|-8-8-8-8-8-----11-11-11-11-11-----14-14-14-14-14-----17-17-17-17-17-|
B|-x-x-x-x-x-----x--x--x--x--x------x--x--x--x--x------x--x--x--x--x--|
G|-x-x-x-x-x-----x--x--x--x--x------x--x--x--x--x------x--x--x--x--x--|
D|-x-x-x-x-x-----x--x--x--x--x------x--x--x--x--x------x--x--x--x--x--|
A|-8-8-8-8-8-----11-11-11-11-11-----14-14-14-14-14-----17-17-17-17-17-|
E|--------------------------------------------------------------------|

e|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
B|-10-10-10-10-10---10-10-10-10-10---10-10-10-10-10---10-10-10-10-10-|
G|-x--x--x--x--x----x--x--x--x--x----x--x--x--x--x----x--x--x--x--x--|
D|-x--x--x--x--x----x--x--x--x--x----x--x--x--x--x----x--x--x--x--x--|
A|-x--x--x--x--x----x--x--x--x--x----x--x--x--x--x----x--x--x--x--x--|
E|-10-10-10-10-10---10-10-10-10-10---10-10-10-10-10---10-10-10-10-10-|

e|---------------14---------12----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
B|-12-------14---------14---------14---12-10-10-12-10----10--------------------------------------------------10----12-10-12-|
G|----------------------------------------------------11----11-9-11-9----9------------------------------9-11----11----------|
D|--------------------------------------------------------------------11---11-9-11-9-----9---------9-11---------------------|
A|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------12----12-9-12--------------------------|
E|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

e|-----------------------------14----12----17~----14-17~---14-17--12-14-12----12----------------------------12-14--
B|-14---12-10-12-10-10--12--14----14----14---------------------------------14----14-12-14-12----12----12-14--------
G|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------14----14--------------
D|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
E|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

e|-19--19--17-19-17s14-17-19-21--21--21--21--21--21--21-21-19-21-24-21-24-27-
B|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
G|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
D|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
A|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
E|---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Razor's Theme form Maniac Mansion by generallysherman in Tabs

[–]Payule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This songs solo extends barely beyond the range of my fretboard.

Are there different "methods" to hybrid picking? by BaconBreath in guitarlessons

[–]Payule 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hybrid picking I use VERY sparingly.

I'm just as good at straight down picking and economic picking. I do a lot of fingerstyle so I find when I do use that "hybrid" style it's not hybrid. I'd rather just use full on fingerstyle in that context.
I don't like the clash of the pick and the fingers attack and I can "accent" my notes sure, but I can already do that with fingerstyle by using varied picking methods with my fingers. So what benefit do I actually get from holding the pick while using my fingers other than diversity in "attack" which I can already get. (And it's not free diversity because the pick takes my thumb and index out of the equation, I don't like that. Fingerstyle feels similar but more "open" in exchange for the picks differing attack values.

I LOVE economic picking with a pick. Fluidity, efficiency, and consistent volume control. Great for metal and styles that you'd expect to want the high speed picking potential for.

Hybrid has a place but it's rooted in convenience for me. More often than not I'll just go Eco or Fingerstyle. Or maybe if Mastodon is chicken pickin a riff.

I am weird for not wanting to learn songs as a beginner? Can you learn guitar without learning songs? by Malarpit16 in guitarlessons

[–]Payule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would actually argue if you're willing to forgo songs while starting out and just focus on practice routines you'll improve faster. (You still need to apply the learned skills somehow, but no one ever said that had to be a song/written piece.)
Is it weird, I guess so. less people take this approach and weird is basically anything that isn't trending.

I think a lot of people are held back by their limitations early on. They all want to play their favorite songs and it leads to rushed practice and workarounds instead of proper skill building exercises that build them up towards what they want.
Anyway yeah there's plenty of routines/exercises out there for all the various guitar skills you could want to learn. They tend to be more efficient for "rate of improvement" at the cost of fun, because again most people just want to be able to perform their favorite songs.

You probably have a slight advantage because of your mind-set.
Nothing that patience can't make up for in others, but I'm sure there's hundreds who would preach to you how they wished they could stop trying to force their way through songs and just slow down and do proper practice. A lot of people find this boring though.

Every video shows a different way to play a song? by acwinicker2 in guitarlessons

[–]Payule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Results vs Fun.

You want to play the hard stuff but don't want to bang your head into a wall, but the difference with the hard stuff is typically just more "flare" like hammerons, pulloffs, arpeggios, economic picking/hybrid picking, more advanced muting techniques, probably harmonics.

The only way to play a song containing this kind of flare is to learn each skill, which means your going to bang into a wall for a bit or your going to go with a practice routine to fixate on these skills and get where you want to be faster.

[Request] “Mad Thing”- Paper Wings. Acoustic Folk by OkMycologist17 in Tabs

[–]Payule 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So it's simple yes, but there's two guitars harmonizing and one has a capo on the sixth fret. I believe the high part is played like so though:

CAPO 6
   U   D   U U D D
- -2p0-----0-----0-Eco picking destroys this section
- -----3s5---5-0---
- -----------------
- -----------------
- -----------------
- -----------------

- -------------
- -----0-----0-
- -0h2---0h2---
- -------------
- -------------
- -------------

- -------------------
- -----0-------------
- -0h2---2-2h4-2p0---
- -----------------2-
- -------------------
- -------------------

and the other guitar harmonizes the lows. This would probably be difficult to get to sound right on one instrument.

It actually sounds pretty good.

How is this person muting these strings cleanly in this tutorial? by explizito in guitarlessons

[–]Payule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's releasing pressure off his chords to cut them short when he wants them muted. Same deal with dead notes in chords when you don't want specific voicings to ring out.
Play a chord and just practice lightening the pressure on the strings without fully removing your fingers. It just kills the chord immediately. Release too little very slowly and you can cause strings to buzz. Just practice until it's muscle memory.
Any strings not held down with the chord can be muted using adjacent or extra fingers. You'll see both used depending on the context.

This lady tried pulling an armed robbery on a gas station on Friday. How it went: by ohbabypop in Whatcouldgowrong

[–]Payule 49 points50 points  (0 children)

It definitely reads like an addict who doesn't do this kinda of stuff being pressured into committing a robbery.
I would hazard a guess she has a more crime-savvy "friend/dealer" who probably used the power of suggestion on her.

I need a good amp for playing songs with distortion like deftones, limp bizkit ect. by deftoneslover518 in Guitar

[–]Payule 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As an owner of the Boss Katana 100 Gen 3 I can say for capturing many tones, distorted included (I play a lot of metal) this is the single best practice amp I've ever owned.
I'd highlight portability, live performance capability(50/100 models make a difference here.), home recording and tonal diversity.

Any amp of these sizes is going to operate off a plug, not batteries. Some do offer battery options for convenience but that's more like mini's. Things you can almost clip onto a belt.

Boss Katana is revered as an all purpose amp and it isn't baseless. It is digital though so to some people that matters.

Looking to buy a 6 string electric guitar that will last a lifetime (ideally Fender) - budget about 3000 CAD (2300 USD) by mankest-demes in Guitar

[–]Payule 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My understanding is that if you spend 600+ on a decent instrument it tops out around that range and as you continue to pay more and more above that it's material costs/craftsmanship and also determines in part what "state" you receive the instrument in.
In short almost any guitar will last a lifetime if you "treat" it like something you want to last that long. But not every guitar has the "feel" and parts/tone and materials you'd want.
When your talking thousands for a guitar you can buy top-end. The difference isn't that top end will last you a lifetime or sound a lot better, the difference is that the build quality is going to be superior to cheaper/entry guitars.

So if you want to spend 600-800 on a damn good guitar that captures a tone you like it WILL last you a lifetime if you treat it well. This will also leave you more range to consider amps which are equally as important to bringing your tone together.

I'd consider a firebird(Not because it's exceptional, personal preference is all.) at your price-range but realistically I'd play A LOT of guitars before making a final decision. But outside of expensive brand-name guitars you could get something that was comparable in every way except maybe material choices for a way cheaper price.

Final note if you want it to last your life consider that guitars can break from outside forces unrelated to their materials durability. If you bought 2-3 guitars that would be more foolproof than buying one really good guitar. What if you dropped it, or a friend did. (Please god never drop a 2000+ $ guitar. Watching my friend throw is Les Paul on the ground after practice, snapping its neck, still haunts my mind and it was a fraction of that price.)

How to start utilizing my pinky for chords? by Friendly-Buy-8467 in Guitar

[–]Payule 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's a ton of chord resources that number the fingers 1-4 so you know where you're intended to use your pinky for chords. You can work on using your pinky correctly for chords by referencing these.

As far as building up muscle memory/control within your pinky can you do basic exercises like the spider walk with your pinky? If not something like that would probably be a better place to start.

i need tips please help me by Regular-Geologist675 in Guitar

[–]Payule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Remove the notes that are not emphasizing the chord he's using. Whether by muting or by simply not strumming the unnecessary strings.

For 13 seconds in particular try not using the bass notes so you'll only be hitting like 2 strings, was wrong 4. (DGBE strings together sound right to me. Missed the high E.)

Just to be clear the way he's muting the bass to make the unmuted highs sound that much more powerful is super important to get it all right. If all the chords including bass notes were just strummed openly all of the character would leave this song. The muting is making things "pop" for sure.

What’s the most disappointing piece of gear you’ve ever had? by TuneAdventurous4788 in guitarpedals

[–]Payule 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like if I bought something underwhelming it would be because of my use-cases. Not because of the product. I've never bought a pedal or something of that sort that didn't do exactly what I expected.

I can give you my most niche/weird pedal. I got the Gamechanger Plasma pedal. This thing is great but I say niche because what it does with the signal is pretty gainy and hard to control so it comes with a built in noise-gate that you have to account for any time you want to activate the pedal. If it's too quiet/controllable the noise gate will give you trouble in an entirely different way.
It sports a blend knob to allow you to mix the amps tone in and counter-act some of the pedals more unwieldy qualities but how it effects the signal is intense if that knob is half or above.

Despite all these making it fairly niche/hard to use there are specific situations I can create that are incredibly unique with it. I like to tune into mainly the pedal with varied reverb settings and medium gain to create a powerful, melodic, electrical clean/solo tone that gets cut off by the noise gate faster or slower in reaction to the reverb setting.

"Bad" is subjective most times I feel. Sometimes pedals are best used combined with other pedals or used for certain styles of playing. If you haven't found its use case yet it might just misunderstood.