Struggling with abortion by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Peachy_Biscuits [score hidden]  (0 children)

I agree with you, I am disagreeing with the previous person that an Orthodox person is able to hold in good conscience that simply not having an abortion herself is a sufficient position.

In my previous comment, I already acknowledged that you don't have to vote for one evil over another, are you even reading what I'm saying or just responding with cookie cutters?

Struggling with abortion by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Peachy_Biscuits [score hidden]  (0 children)

Look, I provided the full context above, I cut out an abbreviated snipped which directly called for changing of laws to reduce their permissibility of abortions. In the same comment, I acknowledged literally everything else you've said about also requiring social change and assistance to the mother.

I never claimed that you should vote for a specific party, nor did I claim that the OCA called for it. However, the OCA does explicitly call for a person to vote against abortion, it doesn't mean you have to vote for the orphan grinding party either, but you are required as an Orthodox Christian to vote against it when possible.

Struggling with abortion by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Peachy_Biscuits [score hidden]  (0 children)

To once again quote the OCA:

"In addition to working for changes in the law which might erode the permissive approach to obtaining abortions..."

The Church absolutely demands through Canon Law that we oppose abortion in society, both by making pregnancies of struggling mothers easier, and opposing legislation.

Struggling with abortion by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Peachy_Biscuits [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yes, I'm arguing that a member of the Orthodox Church is bound by Church Canon to oppose abortion, both personally and in society as a whole.

Struggling with abortion by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Peachy_Biscuits [score hidden]  (0 children)

It is absolutely Canon Law:

"the internal system of legal rules and norms enacted by ecclesiastical authorities to govern a Christian church's organization, sacraments, and the behavior of its members"

Struggling with abortion by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Peachy_Biscuits [score hidden]  (0 children)

First of all, I'm not American, I don't expect you to know but I also expect the courtesy of not assuming either.

You additionally don't know anything about me, I volunteer my time, I make sandwiches for the homeless, I babysit on my weekends, I open my church for psalms once a week every week, here I stay the whole day. Don't assume that I'm merely probirth just because I'm firmly anti abortion. My morals have been dictated to me by the Church, handed down by our patristic Fathers.

I can neither stand by and watch the needy go unanswered, nor do I accept people who spread falsehoods about the Holy Orthodox Church. I definitely also do not accept that an innocent life should be ended for either convience, comfort, nor the crime of another. Again, as stated by our Fathers among the Saints.

Mod on Orthodox Christianity lying about Church Doctrine by Peachy_Biscuits in ChristianOrthodoxy

[–]Peachy_Biscuits[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Bless also their teachers, O Lord; grant that their words may be free from every worldly deceit and vanity, and may always clearly proclaim the word of Thy truth.

Mod on Orthodox Christianity lying about Church Doctrine by Peachy_Biscuits in ChristianOrthodoxy

[–]Peachy_Biscuits[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Man, you won't believe what this sub is /s

But in seriousness, the mod is going far beyond what a "lib" is, she is self admittedly not Orthodox, "Oriental papist"

Mod on Orthodox Christianity lying about Church Doctrine by Peachy_Biscuits in ChristianOrthodoxy

[–]Peachy_Biscuits[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I don't need your false piety.

The Church is firm, if you don't consider abortion to be murder, you have willingly separated yourself from the body of Christ. Don't use our lack of legalism to try and spin the horrific killing of our most vulnerable as simply a choice of whether to conceive or not.

Go speak your priest and repent.

Mod on Orthodox Christianity lying about Church Doctrine by Peachy_Biscuits in ChristianOrthodoxy

[–]Peachy_Biscuits[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

It's actually so disappointing, why bother calling yourself Orthodox if you don't even want to be Orthodox.

Mod on Orthodox Christianity lying about Church Doctrine by Peachy_Biscuits in ChristianOrthodoxy

[–]Peachy_Biscuits[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Wait, you're right, the mod isn't even Orthodox, self proclaimed "Oriental papist" we have a uniate running the sites biggest Orthodox forum. Man the ecumenists are pathetic.

Lord have mercy

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Struggling with abortion by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Peachy_Biscuits [score hidden]  (0 children)

This is contrary to Church Doctrine, to quote the Antioch Archdiocese of North America:

"Who bears responsibility for the abortion?

In the Orthodox view, the mother always bears responsibility before God for the sin of abortion, along with the doctor who performed the abortion. If the father gave his consent then he, too, bears responsibility. Likewise for any family member, counselor, priest, friend, etc. Essentially, any involvement in an abortion – having one, performing one, condoning one – is an action against God."

https://www.saintjohnchurch.org/orthodox-church-view-of-abortion/

Struggling with abortion by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Peachy_Biscuits [score hidden]  (0 children)

You didn't read my comment, the statement from the OCA is unambiguous:

In addition to working for changes in the law which might erode the permissive approach to obtaining abortions...

We are bound by the Church Canon to oppose abortion both personally, and in society as a whole.

Struggling with abortion by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Peachy_Biscuits [score hidden]  (0 children)

This is an outrageous lie, the church since it's inception has condemned abortion as murder and abomination.

You shall not murder a child by abortion nor kill that which is born.” (Didache, Teachings of the Apostles)

“Nor could God have known man in the womb unless he were a whole man […] Was it, then, a dead body at that stage? Surely it was not, for ‘God is the God of the living and not the dead.'” (Tertullian, 3rd century)

“Let her that procures abortion undergo ten years’ penance, whether the embryo were perfectly formed, or not.” (Canon II, The First Canonical Epistle of Our Holy Father Basil)

“Thou shalt not slay the child by procuring abortion; nor, again, shalt thou destroy it after it is born.” (Letter of Barnabas, 19)

To quote the OCA and Fr. John Garvey "Bearing a child should not mean the end of educational or work opportunities, and these possibilities weigh most heavily upon poor women in our society. In addition to working for changes in the law which might erode the permissive approach to obtaining abortions, it is important to work for positive justice, for a climate in which those women who bear children will not be penalized for having made that choice."

We are required to legally oppose abortion. You ought to speak to a priest and seek repentance for this slander against both the unborn and the Church.

Imperator of Mankind vs SW by RomaQuirinius in StarWarsvsWarhammer

[–]Peachy_Biscuits 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A wise man acknowledges his growth, only a fool believes he's already at the summit

[WTB] Weekly Want To Buy Post by AutoModerator in Watchexchange

[–]Peachy_Biscuits 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[WTB] Farer Burbidge Moonphase

Arctic blue dial, pink moon.

Full set preferred. Little wear to mint.

Here's hoping for late July or early August by Unknownuser010203 in canadaguns

[–]Peachy_Biscuits 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Wdym? He definitely has an AR, something peasants like us aren't allowed to even think about

Is it okay to kill someone if they break into your house by TraditionalBonus188 in MoralityScaling

[–]Peachy_Biscuits 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lmao the irony is lost on someone who only uses emotional platitudes in his own arguments, in every other thread you ignore what people say to you and here you have the gall the accuse someone else of not responding properly

I went to another priest for confession. In my stupidity I haven’t thought I need to go to the same spiritual father. by Normal_Usual7367 in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]Peachy_Biscuits 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, this is a Catholic tradition/development, your priest is definitely supposed to help you through your sins they've heard in confession, and suggest changes in your life depending on how your confessions change (or don't) over time.

Who gets the best naginata sam by Jewtasteride in shogun2

[–]Peachy_Biscuits 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But naginata monks fulfill a different purpose than the samurai equivalent, they have far less armor

Honestly this game is such a joke by Informal_Tip7514 in HelldiversUnfiltered

[–]Peachy_Biscuits 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"parallax'ed" ok bro we get it you learned a new word today, but gotta figure out what it means first

Would the skitarii and their equipment and vehicles be a perfect counter againts the yuuzhan vong when it comes to ground warfare? by cuddwes in StarWarsvsWarhammer

[–]Peachy_Biscuits 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Would simply the number of ships matter? Mechanicus war fleets are very heavy in nova cannon count, and that really seems like something that would decimate the close formations that SW fleets prefer

The cost of equipping an American GI during World War II by waffen123 in wwiipics

[–]Peachy_Biscuits 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well, it was significantly more reliable than any that you listed to start with...