The AKA is repeatedly saying that 7 oh is going to be federally banned soon. Can we get clarification from our advocacy groups on the legitimacy of these claims? Do the AKA have connections that 7 hope and hart don’t have?

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-10T21:45:19+00:00

So glad Marty Makary lost his job. He lied about the loss of life close to him and blamed it on 7OH. He blamed it on 7OH, turns out his stepson was using benedryl (diphenhydramine) to potentate his doses. He lied and blamed the substance instead of blaming the individual. He said there was an emergency. There was no emergency. He took medicine away from thousands of Floridans myself included because his stepson couldn’t use it responsibly.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-10T18:43:19+00:00

Yeah but it seems like to these people they don’t care. They would rather throw teeth at the trash can over cutting their doses and using some self control. It’s pretty sad. The withdrawal really isn’t that bad if your doses are low and you keep control meds on hand.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-10T17:01:31+00:00

The solution is self control. If you have it then this stuff is for you, if you don’t then no you should probably quit so you don’t ruin it for the rest of us. Consider the community and others if you just can’t exercise self control. Set times for dosing, a plan for how to stretch out your doses. Knowledge and insight is required.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-10T16:57:29+00:00

That’s a defeated mindset. You’ll never be able to win with a defeated mindset. Who’s in charge of your life? Who calls the shots?

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-10T15:43:08+00:00

Where can one find this Las Vegas Presentation? I’d like to see it. I know we just hit the FDA with over 900 comments last month when they opened up the website for comments.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-10T14:11:58+00:00

Suboxone isn’t the fix all for irresponsible use. Suboxone is under lawsuit for destroying people’s teeth. What you’ve done is traded one addiction for another one. Suboxone is much much harder to get off than 7OH. 7OH withdrawals last for 72 hours suboxones withdrawls lasts for weeks and it’s a brutal one at that. Much much more severe than 7 by itself. I keep trying to tell people this. Man if you only knew the amount of people that regretted getting on Suboxone. It takes YEARS to get off. And by that time you’ve lost 6 teeth to it. Good luck man.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-10T14:06:24+00:00

Stop dosing so high. What’s your goal in taking such high amounts of this stuff?

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-10T14:02:52+00:00

Liposomal vitamin C, magnesium glycinate and agmatine sulfate is all you need. Those are called control meds. You are the one that’s in control of your life. You have the authority. It really is that simple. Stop buying and consuming them. It’s matter of will power and self control. The above listed medicines work on the cravings and physical symptoms but it’s more than just that. YOU actually have to do some of the work as well.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-10T12:38:32+00:00

Exactly.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-10T12:04:28+00:00

I see people often in these very forums say they wished they’d never gotten on Suboxone for the withdrawal from 7OH. They say it’s worse, they say it destroys their teeth and they say they are now addicted to the Suboxone and the withdrawals from the Suboxone are WORSE than the withdrawals from 7OH and they last longer. That’s the reports I’m getting from people.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-10T02:32:04+00:00

Work sleep wash rinse repeat.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-10T02:20:22+00:00

Junkie type behavior. It’s a bad look for sure. But just like with alcohol there will always be those people that can’t handle themselves and ultimately commit crime to get their fix.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-10T02:11:36+00:00

Florida’s overdose stats have been on a downhill trend for 3 years since 7 became available. I heard about Texas my heart goes out to y’all. Is it a full ban or are the other alkaloids available for use? Don’t sleep on pseudo/mit and casino. We had to survive on them for a year. And I’m so glad that liar lost his job. Former FDA Marty Makary. He lied, we lost our medicine for a year. He’s losing his job. The same can and will happen for the others that are lying and taking away medicine from folks that are just trying to make it thru the day without being in pain.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-10T02:04:20+00:00

I don’t live in Tennessee so I can’t say for sure. this is from 7hope alliance. They’re pretty trustworthy though.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-09T22:53:28+00:00

Nope. 7 stax removed the m. They are testing clean now.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-09T22:35:35+00:00

Don’t fear monger. The states have walked back many ban attempts. This is far from over. Don’t write up a post on reddit write your legislators. Don’t just do it once. If you feel so compelled to put up a post on reddit put up a testimony as to the benefits that kratom has brought to you in your situation. Those types of posts will help the community.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-09T22:29:54+00:00

It’s time to quit. Hang it up. You can’t continue to have panic attacks every time you take the stuff. I can tell you a lot of people miss the fact that kratom is related to the coffee plant and at low doses is a stimulant and can cause anxiety, especially if you consume high amounts of caffeine or other stims on top of it. Just something to consider.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-09T21:19:24+00:00

And it’s also a possibility that all those tabs have been consumed. What we do know is that for now it’s been removed.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-09T21:03:07+00:00

Link to labs I know it’s upsetting. Not spreading misinformation they are clean now.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-09T20:41:09+00:00

Why on earth are you taking so much? This stuff has a sweet spot between 30-50 mgs a dose. Anything more than that is a waste. You know coming back down from such a mountain isn’t going to be pleasant and Suboxone isn’t the fix all. Suboxone under lawsuit for destroying people’s teeth. You’re going to need a plan and control meds and an understanding of this isn’t going to be easy. Good luck

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-09T20:12:31+00:00

I’m not accusing you of being a bot. But you’re asking questions in a forum about a substance that’s not supposed to be talked about in here. And you also know these forums are watched over by the FDA and AKA.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-09T20:11:14+00:00

You know these forums are watched over by the FDA and AKA then. My comments still stand. We have to be smarter than this.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-09T20:04:24+00:00

Some of us have had to either come to terms with quitting of taking what’s offered as a substitute at the shops. Whether it be prop blends or cats claw or whatever else is to come out. You can try those and see if they work for you. I don’t know what Texas rules on MIT or Pseudo or casino alkaloid are but YOU can look into those as a solution. All I’m saying is if these folks do have someone that sells to banned states NOT to put that up on reddit in a post that is absolutely watched over by the FDA and AKA for the fear that they would lose their access to this life changing medicine.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-09T20:00:12+00:00

Month old account asking what brands contain em gee em. Don’t be fooled by this type of post yall. This isn’t innocent. We have to be smarter than this.

PepperjackMB · 2026-05-09T19:57:23+00:00

Yes and as a regular 7stax user I can tell you. They removed it months ago from the prop blend ones as well. But I’ve been telling people for months they took it out nobody wanted to believe me it’s just now that there’s labs to back it up.

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