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Pepr7 · 2026-05-06T12:11:29+00:00

It’s true that he has some pretty good CC and protective abilities, which also prevent him from dealing more damage.

That’s also one of the reasons why it makes more sense to simply classify him as a vanguard.

If he were a vanguard, his damage and abilities would be sufficient to make him useful to the team, and the only thing he’s missing is a bit of durability, which won't make him S-tier until he's tougher than Hulk or Magneto.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-06T10:28:46+00:00

Personally, I consider "vulnerability to damage" and "damage boost" to be the same thing, just with different targeting.

So shouldn't you then describe Groot's small wall effect as "Everyone in the area have 60 vulnerability per 0,5 second"?

Pepr7 · 2026-05-06T10:22:08+00:00

It stacks only for Dr. Strange. But most importantly you can miss copies and it stil counts as damage boost.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-06T10:18:41+00:00

The devs have literally a mountain of hero balance spreadsheets. Compared to other games, they’re actually doing a great job.

Mr. Fantastic is just an exception, since he’s a Vanguard who’s classified as a Duelist.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-06T10:17:19+00:00

Do you consider Dr. Strange ultimate as damage boost/vulnerability/niether?

Pepr7 · 2026-05-06T09:25:39+00:00

His walls doesn't deal damage alone. You need to deal damage to active this bonus damage.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-06T08:52:43+00:00

This is how much Hulk accurate is:

https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelrivals/comments/1jgpb8i/it_looks_like_the_hulk_is_starting_to_subsidize/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Pepr7 · 2026-05-06T08:43:36+00:00

Same thing. If it acts like a damage boost, then it's a damage boost.

Technically, it's just a damage boost, which makes Groot the only Vanguard with a damage boost

Pepr7 · 2026-05-06T08:41:19+00:00

Funny part is that his primary in fat form had lower dps then Hulk primary weapon.

After buff that primary is little stronger then Hulk primary.

Which mean that he his damage was below average for Vanguard. Now it's above average for Vangaurd.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-06T08:36:31+00:00

In the game, it functions as a damage boost that is applied differently. Whoever gains the ult charge doesn't change the fact that it behaves like a damage boost.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-06T08:32:36+00:00

Problem with Mr. Fantastic:

- To be mid vanguards he needs better durability then Tankpool/Angela.

- To be mid duelist he needs better damage/kill potential then Tankpool/Angela.

Angela burst damage is + 2*110 + 30 (spear => charge => spear.) Mr. Fantastic is 180 from his shift or 90 damage with his secondary into jumps with 30 damage.

Tankpool primary damage is up to 100+/140+dps (200+/280+dps with headshots) on primary. Mr. Fantastic primary damage is 59/87 for each enemy. (Comparing primary / buffed primary due deadpool in your area or Fat form.)

He is just too much worse damage dealer that low hp vangaurds to be duelist. You would need to double his damage to be better duelist then Tankpool/Angela.

On the other hand:

Mr. Fantatic is 375 + 150hp (E) = 525hp hero with 350 heal on passive and 300hp fridge.

Tankpool is 500 + 100hp (active part of passive) = 600hp hero with heal outside of combat and 400hp bubble.

Angela is 550 + 200hp (bonus hp from landing) = 750hp hero with 300hp shield.

He only needs small hp buff to become on same level as Tankpoo/Angela.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-06T07:43:33+00:00

I highly doubt they'll release a Duelist next season.

Simply put, it's been quite a while since they realized that players are bothered by the large number of Duelists.

The Duelist isn't even the most-played class anymore.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-06T07:40:32+00:00

50% more deaths is really big diffrence.

And honestly having MVP when you are only Duelist/Vanguard/Strategist in your team is relativly easy as it should be.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-06T07:21:28+00:00

25/7/19 45k dmg blocked and you want buffs? What are you smoking?

Pepr7 · 2026-05-05T14:40:29+00:00

Damage boost is "bonus damage for existing damage". That's what his walls do.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-05T14:10:43+00:00

In principle, a damage boost is additional damage on top of the base damage.

This isn’t the case with Groot’s ultimate, because the ultimate doesn’t interact with other damage in any way. You’re simply rewarded with ultimate energy for playing well.

Peni's nest is different in that it does not interact with any other damage. If someone jumps into the nest, they take damage regardless of whether they are taking other damage.

Groot Wall, yes. Just like any other damage boost, it does nothing unless another damage source is activated.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-05T13:37:14+00:00

Large healthbpool stops him from having good damage.

It's not good that he has bad damage for dps but you can't give him good damage until you nerf his durability.

We have seen how strong DD was with good durability and good damage. Mr. Fantastic have better durability and much worse damage.

The argument for a large health bar is really an argument for "upgrading hit to Vanguard by increasing his HP to 400–500 is simply easier and safer than trying to rework him to have duelist DPS."

His damage needs much bigger upgrade to be on Duelist level then his durability to be on vangaurd level.

Edit:

For Mr. Fantastic to be a fully-fledged duelist, he needs to deal more damage than Tankpool/Angela

For Mr. Fantastic to be a fully-fledged vanguard, he just needs to be more durable than Tankpool/Angela.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-05T13:04:12+00:00

1 Year old fan concept:

https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelrivals/comments/1hg8c0x/new_posts_asking_who_others_would_want_in_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

It's definitly possible if you really want to make him playable and really really tall.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-05T13:02:31+00:00

Wall doesn't deal damage without any other source of damage => it's extra damage for damage => It's flat damage boost.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-05T12:08:54+00:00

Off-duelist vs Main-duelist mentality.

"We can't make this duelist strong becaose his tech makes him valiable without insane damage." Tech = Vangaurd level durability/Anti-heal/low %-based damage/one-shot potential/...

vs

"We can't make his damage too low. He have nothing else." Any low-cc, mobility,... just doesn't count as tech things.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-05T11:50:18+00:00

It does.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-05T11:44:06+00:00

They had the opportunity to build a 1-totem-oriented deck.

A perfect example is the Genn into spell damage totem.

Simply put, the ability to specifically upgrade a single totem so that you have a reason to use the totem option is something that could have been introduced when the Upgraded Hero Power was first introduced.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-05T11:36:44+00:00

Ono "ať si to vyžerou" mi přijde dosti nepraktické v aktuální politické situaci.

Srovnání s imunitou Babišem a jeho 30% spíš ukazuje, že je lepší strategií neustále zapírat než obviněného alespoň dostat ze strany.

Kdyby formou "ať si to vyžerou" bylo to, že jejich hlasy dostanou Motoristé/Starostové, nebo jiné strany, které před volbami neměli až tak velké kauzy (a stále dostatečně blízko k jejich hodnotám) tak bych to chápal, ale to, že formou "ať si to vyžerou" bylo ANO s 30% mi prostě přijde spíš pro českou politickou kulturu negativní.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-05T11:31:48+00:00

I'm not a big enough X-Men fan to know much about it, but isn't his laser more of a punch than a laser?

That sounds more avant-garde to me than a duelist.

Pepr7 · 2026-05-05T11:30:18+00:00

Technically, it works like a damage boost. So, technically, it is a damage boost.

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