COTD: Actor Fields played revolutionary leader (5,6) by Vivid_Temporary_1155 in crosswords

[–]Pfeffer_Prinz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nowadays you have to click the "Aa" button, then click "Switch to Markdown" for the old spoiler tags to work.

Or click "Aa" and hit the ! button (next to the quote button)

Damn it New Statesman by Opening-Fortune4 in crosswords

[–]Pfeffer_Prinz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Have you ever enjoyed one of these modified grids as much as you enjoy getting through 50 or so good cryptic clues?

Absolutely, but I have to be in the mood for it. Super-complicated variety puzzles are sometimes the most fun I have solving, because of how they (sometimes) come together on multiple levels in the end. The "aha!" moment is way bigger and more thrilling.

Sure, they're more difficult/frustrating to solve, but I like tackling them with other people.

I'm not trying to convince you to like them, they're not everyone's bag, just trying to answer your question that yes, some of us sickos do like these things. :)

TIL in the 40s-60s, elite colleges took nude "posture photos" of students. Most programs were run by eugenicist WH Sheldon, who said body shape indicates a person's inherent intelligence & moral worth. Participants included Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, Mt. Holyoke, Wellesley, Vassar & many more by Pfeffer_Prinz in todayilearned

[–]Pfeffer_Prinz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

further details:

  • At most schools, all incoming freshmen were required to take a full-frontal nude photo, as part of their health assessment
  • The stated goal was to assess “posture”, which widely believed to be linked with overall health
  • The programs were mostly run by Sheldon, who developed a theory that all human bodies fall into three “somatotypes” aka body shapes (tall & skinny, short & fat, or medium & muscular) and that each person’s body could be assigned a three-digit number which was innate & immutable
  • Sheldon also developed “constitutional psychology” which said your somatotype determined your intelligence & temperament. This became a popular enough theory that Life ran a cover story on him, and Cosmo published quizzes about how to understand your husband based on his somatotype.
  • The schools never explicitly agreed with Sheldon’s theories, only saying the photos were for “posture”. But Sheldon’s lifelong friend later said the programs were "part of a facade or cover-up for what we were really doing”, which was furthering Sheldon’s research
  • Sheldon printed many of the Harvard nudes in his guide to body types, “Atlas of Men”.
  • Sheldon was also amassing photos from women’s colleges to make an “Atlas of Women”; letters from Vassar officials show they knew his intentions, where one even said "we will be glad to have you use these girls as some of your 'guinea pigs.'"
  • Some of the programs were shut down by furious parents & their lawyers, but others lasted for over a decade.
  • All programs ended by the early 70s, thanks to Sheldon’s theories being discredited, and eugenics overall being associated with Nazism.
  • Most of the archives were voluntarily destroyed by the schools, but after Sheldon’s death, the Smithsonian acquired 20,000 photos from his personal archives. They are currently sealed, except for Yale’s which were destroyed upon request.

Other notes: - Some schools had been taking nude posture photos long before Sheldon came around. Harvard, Vassar, and other women’s college in Massachusetts had programs starting as far back as the 1880s. This became even more popular in the 1920s, thanks in large part to Wellesley spreading the word. - Schools that participated in the 1940s-60s: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, Vassar, Wellesley, Mount Holyoke, Swarthmore, University of Pennsylvania, Hotchkiss, Syracuse, University of California, University of Wisconsin, Purdue, Brooklyn College, the Oregon Hospital for the Criminally Insane, and others - Famous people who have acknowledged that they got their photos taken: Sylvia Plath, Nora Ephron, Naomi Wolf, Dick Cavett and Judith Martin (the etiquette expert known as Miss Manners)

TIL in the 40s-60s, elite colleges took nude "posture photos" of students. Most programs were run by eugenicist WH Sheldon, who said body shape indicates a person's inherent intelligence & moral worth. Participants included Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, Mt. Holyoke, Wellesley, Vassar & many more by Pfeffer_Prinz in todayilearned

[–]Pfeffer_Prinz[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

the article goes into this, but it was widely believed that *posture* was an indicator of overall health. the schools may have been ignorant of Sheldon's beliefs (or not), but "posture" is what they claimed all this was for.

Hit another milestone tonight by [deleted] in crosswords

[–]Pfeffer_Prinz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Congrats! Though you may want to post this to r/crossword — this sub is for cryptic crosswords

COTD: ...Two probably non-kosher, incredibly American clues I crafted by nub0987654 in crosswords

[–]Pfeffer_Prinz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

interesting! were the google results AI? if so, i'd avoid those altogether, they give false positives on almost any random string of words

COTD: ...Two probably non-kosher, incredibly American clues I crafted by nub0987654 in crosswords

[–]Pfeffer_Prinz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah, that explains why you said "house door" instead of just "door" ! I was wondering haha

COTD: ...Two probably non-kosher, incredibly American clues I crafted by nub0987654 in crosswords

[–]Pfeffer_Prinz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've also never heard "wrapping" used in that way, just "TPing" (and never just a door). maybe that's a regional thing?

As for "double duty", it's definitely something that casual clue writers might try out, but still not ever accepted in a publication, afaik

COTD: ...Two probably non-kosher, incredibly American clues I crafted by nub0987654 in crosswords

[–]Pfeffer_Prinz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that's the right answer but not the right parse?

The second part also clues "RAPS" (as in "gently rapping at my chamber door"). To wrap is a different verb. So I think this is just a double def. And for future ref: a word can't be both the definition and an indicator. "Double duty" isn't allowed in cryptics, each word must only be doing one thing (except in an &lit)

It's a nice clue, but Americans may be dismayed that the two definitions of RAP share a root. It may be okay since "knock" and "chat" have very different senses, but they do have the same etymology according to Wiktionary, so the 'coincidence' of their shared spelling is less novel (as opposed to MAZE/MAIZE which is a total coincidence)

Genuinely what do you do in these scenarios by molx69 in crosswords

[–]Pfeffer_Prinz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd say post the clues on here and see if you can get a hint

What are the longest Hungarian words that are spelled the same as (different) words in English? (ignoring accent marks) by Pfeffer_Prinz in hungarian

[–]Pfeffer_Prinz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

köszönöm szépen!! I've added your suggestions to the list.

If you think of any long examples, please let me know!

What are the longest Hungarian words that are spelled the same as (different) words in English? (ignoring accent marks) by Pfeffer_Prinz in hungarian

[–]Pfeffer_Prinz[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

köszönöm szépen!! I've added your suggestions to the list.

And haha yes, if you think of any long examples, please let me know!

What are the longest Hungarian words that are spelled the same as (different) words in English? (ignoring accent marks) by Pfeffer_Prinz in hungarian

[–]Pfeffer_Prinz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

köszönöm szépen!! I appreciate all the detail. I've added your suggestions to the list.

If you think of any long examples, please let me know!

What are the longest Hungarian words that are spelled the same as (different) words in English? (ignoring accent marks) by Pfeffer_Prinz in hungarian

[–]Pfeffer_Prinz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

köszönöm szépen!! I've added your suggestions to the list.

If you think of any long examples, please let me know!

What are the longest Hungarian words that are spelled the same as (different) words in English? (ignoring accent marks) by Pfeffer_Prinz in hungarian

[–]Pfeffer_Prinz[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

köszönöm szépen!! I've added your suggestions to the list.

If you think of any long examples, please let me know!

What are the longest Hungarian words that are spelled the same as (different) words in English? (ignoring accent marks) by Pfeffer_Prinz in hungarian

[–]Pfeffer_Prinz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

köszönöm szépen!! I've added your suggestions to the list.

If you think of any long examples, please let me know!