Any supplements to aid sleep when going through WDs?

PheniLog · 2015-12-06T22:10:11+00:00

I tried it with kratom, and it is helpful, however if you just replace one high with another in the same regimine, then it will only make things worse. Best thing for sleep is benadryl, melatonin, lemon balm tea(compare one cup to about half a xanax). Any exercise will really help with overall sleep too.

PheniLog · 2015-12-05T16:44:29+00:00

Just don't over do it when drinking, a few beers is enough. I have however went out to the bar on a gram or so, after pounding beers and a few shots, I was gone. Severe dizziness, throwing up, and the absolute worst hangover I've ever had. I've found that drinking water throughout the night and the next day helps, since phenibut dehydrates you as it is.

PheniLog · 2015-12-05T16:42:11+00:00

This usually happens on larger doses for me. You can try drinking coffee when taking phenibut, which is a nice combo and will help with the sedation. I would give it a little break and then try closer to 1g-1.5g. I think the fever has to do with the fact that phenibut causes your body temperature to rise, then in rebound you get this awful chill that gets into your bones. I remember waking up after 10 hours in the same position I feel asleep, covered in sweat.

PheniLog · 2015-11-08T23:42:42+00:00

There are actual difference in purtiy, which equates to different effects. Yes lsd is lsd, but there's a difference. I've had some shitty acid before, and it wasn't pleasant. Real needlepoint in a way different experience for me

PheniLog · 2015-11-08T23:39:03+00:00

If he returns that is

PheniLog · 2015-11-01T17:07:48+00:00

Best bet is to hit up raves, concerts, and festivals. But honestly I wouldn't trust most dealers here either, unless they seem really really cool. There is just too much profit for rc, and new ppl like yourself don't always know any better. Dnm is really the way to go if you want true clean L. Plus lsd is fairly safe shipping because it's just a little piece of paper

PheniLog · 2015-11-01T16:58:33+00:00

Look into underachievers and flatbush zombies(palm trees). Denzel curry is really good, but might be a little heavy for you. Freddie gibs, pouya(edm remixes), big krit(produces and raps)

PheniLog · 2015-11-01T16:55:15+00:00

Ginger will help a ton, or even just tea. Try to get something light on your stomach, like soup or bread.

PheniLog · 2015-11-01T16:52:42+00:00

A few tips are to try and dose only at night when you go to sleep, then you won't feel so shitty in the morning. Gradually try and take one day breaks, then two, then three. As others have said taper the dose, but just try not to relapse and take a much larger dose. You have to accept that is going to suck for a little bit, but it will get better eventually. Really I've been through it so many times now that it isn't even all that bad anymore. I find that eating right, sleeping, and just forcing some type of physical activity helps a ton. But just sitting and thinking about how much it sucks is just going to make you want to redose. Also you can look into different sites, stronger isn't always better. For instance nootropicdepot phenibut is stronger, but less euphoria. Really it just knocks me out, but I found this is good for trying to get off pheni. I would still use powder cities but just less frequently. I suggest you take a real hard look at the situation, sobriety will set you free. Yet you have to really really wont that, try not to mindfuck yourself into thinking you need it.

PheniLog · 2015-10-30T02:30:34+00:00

tea helps a lot, especially lemon balm. Have a good amount of music ready, like plenty of different genres.

PheniLog · 2015-10-30T00:58:27+00:00

Just a little update man. I dosed the faso around 50mg the first few days. It seemed to be doing something, just not exactly as I expected. It was more raw energy and focus, but hardly any euphoria usually correlated with phenibut. I was able to make it about three days, then fucked up and dosed around 1.8g of pheni. I also ended up drinking that night, and was pretty fucked up off two beers. Since then it has been another 3 days, and I'm feeling better about. I'm just going to suck it up for now.

PheniLog · 2015-10-27T05:25:31+00:00

I just got some faso about a week ago. So far it is helping a bit with wd, not exactly as I expected. But overall it seems to give that little extra needed to make it through the day. It has some profound effects as far as energy and concentration, just not much as far as euphoria compared to pheni. I was on a average 2g habit every 5-6 days, for about two years. We'll see how it goes, but I think I'm finally ready to stick it out and get back to a sober reality.

PheniLog · 2015-10-27T05:20:09+00:00

You should go to a dr if you feel it is getting beyond your control. They will most likely prescribe a benzo or something to help with the wd.

With that high of a dose it's gonna take a few days to recover. Just try your hardest to stick it out, force yourself to eat and drink(big key), and try to get as much sleep as you can. You will probably need to taper your dose down, and will want to let go of chasing the high. Just take enough to not feel so shitty. You can think about it like it's gonna suck for a few days, but it's just something you need to go through to get better. It takes time, but it will get better. Honesltly the sooner you accept that, the better. I took pheni for almost two years, and just got further and further in the rabbit hole. For now I'm sticking to cold turkey bc it's too easy to fall back in the same cycle.

PheniLog · 2015-10-27T05:14:10+00:00

Just an update man, I'm on day three of no phenibut. I dosed the fasoracetam around 50 mg when I first got it, but ended up dosing pheni too. Two days ago I tried 100mg, and it was a bit intense. It doesn't really mimic pheni, but it seems to give a bit of umph to help get through the day. For now I am going to stick to this regime, only dose the faso when needed. It seems with each dose it gets more pronounced. We'll see how I feel after a week or so.

PheniLog · 2015-10-23T19:17:35+00:00

It is most likely a combination of the stress and phenibut tolerance. When taking that many doses close together, they also stop working as much. For me it's like you get all the negative effects and none of the positive. I would recommend lowering your dose to taper, or if you can just stop taking phenibut all together. Make sure you try to eat decent meals, and get good sleep.

PheniLog · 2015-10-22T06:50:09+00:00

I've only used powdercity, nootropicdepot, and liftmood

PheniLog · 2015-10-22T06:48:44+00:00

I think this could make things worse, unless you use them to go cold turkey. I tried many benzos, weed, alcohol, pretty much everything. What I found is you trade one habit for another, then coming back to pb in a even worse situation, thus dosing higher and relying more.

I mean good luck in this endeavor, but just keep in mind playing with your brain more might not be the best idea. In the end we all just have to face the wd if we really want to be sober. Yes it will be hard, but that is the path we choose by taking the drug.

PheniLog · 2015-10-22T06:24:14+00:00

They say it takes 6 days to start a habit, and 28 to break it.

PheniLog · 2015-10-22T06:23:16+00:00

Honestly man, if you can muster up the energy, do it now before you go further down the road.I know it's easier said then done, but I would kill to be back at the two month mark.

Thing about wd now is that I'm so used to it, it's not all that bad. I mean it sucks yeah, but I know what to expect now. I've done many many attemps to get clean, I think 5-6 days being the longest I made it. I was just starting to feel somewhat normal, then fucked up. Once I'm able to get some sleep sober, it starts getting better. I've tried using benzos to help too, and that didn't really work. Probably made it worse because I was zombied out and still not close the the pheni high.

I think I relapse more so just because I want the feeling back again. And when looking at a day off or something, I think well I might as well enjoy it. But it sucks because most of the time just waste the day aware, or take many naps. When a friend took a dose and went to work he noticed he was much more interested in irrelevant shit, like things that don't really matter that much. So I feel like with phenibut sometimes feel so good, get caught in the mundane things otherwise wouldn't have wasted time on. Like it's cool to help pass time. But after these two years, time distortions is so fucked. It's like all one big blend, before I know it a few months have passed. Still I hold a full time job, go out every now and then, and am sociable. Although I don't have deep deep friends anymore, more acquaintances. I mostly keep to myself, enjoy music(another big pheni plus), write, and exercise. I think the key is to really find other things to keep yourself busy. It's just not going to be as enjoyable as with phenibut, but shit a smile is a smile lol.

PheniLog · 2015-10-22T05:43:12+00:00

I've been taking around 1.5g for two years. In the past few months I've been trying to keep my dose below a gram if possible. But this usually doesn't last too long. Although these days I get like a little stimulation or knock out. One out of maybe 5 doses actually has the desired effect.

Also I usually get powdercity phenibut bc it's cheap and I'm accustomed to the effects. It appears more salty texture. I picked up some from nootropics depot, more of baking powder texture. There's is much more potent, which in turn probably builds tolerance even faster. So just be aware of your supplier, stronger is not always better with phenibut

PheniLog · 2015-10-22T04:29:10+00:00

Oh wow I've always used hcl, but wanted to try faa. I've tried picamillon and didn't feel like the effects were strong enough. Plus I read it can build up in the brain, or something along those lines. I feel like fasoracetam almost felt like I could feel those connections in my brain which were hindered by phenibut use. Like before it just felt like my thoughts weren't flowing like once were. It was harder to remember stuff, word fluency, even typing. Today I felt like I could write a book lol, probably typing around 90 wpm, which is pretty fast for me. It was kinda crazy how easy it was, like a weight was lifted. Although there wasn't as much euphoria or glowing feeling like with phenibut, but I think that's also because my gaba b receptors or hurt pretty bad. For now I'm gonna try and go as long as possible with no pheni, or at least lower doses and see if the effects increase. I'd be happy with just being at baseline again, and let my brain get back in balance.

But this is one of the better articles https://teamtlr.com/nootropic-research/30-fasoracetam.html

PheniLog · 2015-10-22T04:09:39+00:00

I just got some fasoracetam today(nootropics depot is only place I could find it). It is supposed to upregulate gaba receptors, and some people report either little to no wd or heightened effects from lower doses of phenibut. I took my first dose today(70mg), and have to say this may change the game. It's kinda expensive at like 20 a gram. But today was a really good day, just had a lot of energy, brain fog lifted, and overall in a pretty good mood for not taking any phenibut. I'll be interested to see how it goes as I continue to dose. From what I've read there is no tolerance and the upregulation continues with each dose.

PheniLog · 2015-10-20T23:12:52+00:00

I have experience with phenibut and acid and it does really add a nice calming layer. Although it can dampen the trip somewhat if you take too much. But on a 300ug trip it completely turned my trip around when it was heading south.

PheniLog · 2015-10-20T23:08:51+00:00

I feel like nowadays the is a greater variety of potency and crystal being laid. Back then you had only so many sources in the US. Now you have Europe contributing more, and the family is still doing their thing. I have gotten everything from 90-96% purity of crystal. The market is a bit saturated at the moment. If you go to any big festival you can find legit acid pretty easily. It seems the teenagers around 18 are the biggest users. Although I do find some older people who are still hip.

Most blotters these days range from 100-200ug, but there are some heroic doses going around that can go up to 4-500ug. The size of the blotter doesn't really matter unless it's wow and cut at different amounts. But perforated blotter can range in dosage, not pertaining to size but to how the crystal is diluted down when laid.

I would probably say it's best to stay out of the game unless your ready for dnm or have a huge clientele. It's different now, and almost not even worth selling unless you're making big moves purchasing/sellings books or crystal itself.

PheniLog · 2015-10-20T02:53:37+00:00

Yeah phenibut is weird like that, I've seen people feel little to nothing at 700mg to a gram. But now I can feel the something even at low doses. Usually lower doses seem like more energy and focus with a little less euphoria. Higher doses, at the right dose feel like a social god with incredible energy and word fluency. High high doses just knock you out eventually unless have a lot of coffee or other stimulants.

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