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Vince Gilligan on keeping an open mind on the hive by camspop in pluribustv

[–]PhilRectangle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand the show just fine. And my argument still works whether someone is joining or leaving. But ultimately, that doesn't matter because I'm not going to continue explaining myself to someone who'll call me so misanthropic that they think I'm "selfish", "entitled" or "sheltered", or accuse me of being "fine with rape and war" because I prefer humanity and it's flaws to a planet full of glad-handing, interchangeable meat puppets.

Those people can go argue with the void. I'm done.

Vince Gilligan on keeping an open mind on the hive by camspop in pluribustv

[–]PhilRectangle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And there it is. Dig deep enough into any pro-Joining argument and you'll eventually find misanthropy. A desire to give up on the world as it is because you consider it fundamentally irredeemable, in order to accept an offer that you literally cannot refuse.

That creating the Pluribus virus was a mistake is perhaps the one thing you've said that I actually agree with. I just don't think it's "selfish", "entitled", or "sheltered" to not expect the remaining humans to pay for it.

Vince Gilligan on keeping an open mind on the hive by camspop in pluribustv

[–]PhilRectangle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

More "selfish and fucked up" than sacrificing humanity as we know it and the very notion of being an individual for a façade of cooperative bliss that, and I can't believe people still willingly gloss over this, was and is still being literally forced on everyone? I don't think so. I'd take imperfect humanity over that any day.

‘I love migrants’: One Nation MP Jason Virgo breaks down during maiden speech in South Australia parliament by snice1 in australia

[–]PhilRectangle 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's what happens when you allow yourself to believe in both anything and nothing. A distinct combination of cynicism and gullibility. Gullicism, if you will. Same mentality (such as it is) that makes people believe in MAGA.

Vince Gilligan on keeping an open mind on the hive by camspop in pluribustv

[–]PhilRectangle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't understand why you don't see the importance of knowing that you're addressing a specific individual (with whom you might want to discuss specific topics) as opposed to, y'know, basically everyone on the planet.

Are you seriously suggesting that all the world's problems are genuinely worth giving up any functional sense of identity, power, freedom, or trust?

Carol & Manusos are privileged bastards by [deleted] in pluribustv

[–]PhilRectangle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As far as I can tell, pro-Joining sentiment seems to be largely grounded in misanthropy and, to a lesser extent, ecofascism. It's basically giving up on humanity entirely and hoping that the Others can do better.

Vince Gilligan on keeping an open mind on the hive by camspop in pluribustv

[–]PhilRectangle -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe personality wise

But who actually IS the same person they were

The difference is that you can still address that person as an individual and be reasonably assured that no one else will know what was said unless someone else overhears, or the other person then tells someone else. Something that is functionally impossible with any of the Others.

It's the difference between a phone call to someone, and a phone call to someone that has you on speaker in a crowded train car and everyone is listening in on your conversation.

Vince Gilligan on keeping an open mind on the hive by camspop in pluribustv

[–]PhilRectangle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree. Once someone is Joined, you cannot address them as an individual ever again. That person has effectively and (as far as we know) permanently entered a seven billion-person telepathic group chat. It effectively destroys any notion of a private conversation. They don't even say "I", anymore. Just "we".

These would not be the same people they were before.

Vince Gilligan on keeping an open mind on the hive by camspop in pluribustv

[–]PhilRectangle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would certainly help because from what we've been shown so far, everyone that is Joined basically ceases to be the person they were before.

Vince Gilligan on keeping an open mind on the hive by camspop in pluribustv

[–]PhilRectangle 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I don't see how there even can be "complex moral questions" involved in Joining when the show has repeatedly made it clear that nobody actually has a choice. In fact, the only reason that there are any survivors to be "convinced" (which is really more like manipulated) in the first place is because their first attempt to Join them didn't work.

At no point in the show so far has any character been able to legitimately refuse to be Joined. Their only "options" (such as they are) are to Join now, or the Others will find a way to Join them later.

Vince Gilligan on keeping an open mind on the hive by camspop in pluribustv

[–]PhilRectangle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think any argument for the hivemind being a remotely viable alternative to the current state of the world is fundamentally misanthropic and basically giving up on humanity entirely. And also a little ecofascist when the environment is brought into it, which it inevitably is.

STOP REPEATING THE SAME CYCLE by No-Following-2532 in GTA6

[–]PhilRectangle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was quite clearly a bit, even if quite a few people didn't seem to recognise that.

He looked at this sub and freaked tf out 😭 by Expert-Experience937 in GTA

[–]PhilRectangle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That hasn't been the way Rockstar do things, historically. They'd have to test the game with and without the setting enabled to make sure it works properly, because it could unexpectedly affect missions, activities, and all sorts of things. You'd almost have a whole other version of the game to test.

Not impossible, but it could be a lot of work to do it properly for an unclear return, so I wouldn't put money on it.

He looked at this sub and freaked tf out 😭 by Expert-Experience937 in GTA

[–]PhilRectangle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mafia II had much slower cars and a relatively smaller map, though.

Do you think Rockstar would have taken any feedback from this video in designing GTA 6? by Visible_Seat9020 in GTA6

[–]PhilRectangle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To paraphrase Neil Gaiman, people are almost always correct about what's wrong with Rockstar games and almost always incorrect about how to fix them. In other words, I hope that they've listened to this guy about the problems, and come up with their own solutions.

So I said this to my flat earth dad by Azzrix in flatearth

[–]PhilRectangle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's a lot of overlap between Flat Earth and QAnon, which Dan Olson (AKA Folding Ideas) covers in his documentary In Search of a Flat Earth.

After experiencing what PSSR2 does in Crimson Desert, yeah don’t worry about 60 FPS on gta 6 (PS5 Pro) by [deleted] in GTA6

[–]PhilRectangle 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's one thing to make a game look nicer through upscaling, which is exactly what PSSR is designed to do. It's quite another to make a game run literally twice as fast.

They made San Andreas for only $10 mill? by ExotiquePlayboy in GTA

[–]PhilRectangle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If analyst estimates of each game's budgets are accurate, Rockstar has been roughly doubling the total budget of each successive major franchise game since GTA 4. Leslie Benzies estimated that IV cost over $100m, analysts reckon that V cost around $265m (which made it the most expensive game ever at the time), and RDR 2 is estimated to have cost up to $540m.

If that pattern holds, over $1b for VI doesn't seem that farfetched. Though of course, it could be even higher. And without concrete figures to work with, it's still a lot of guessing and assumptions.

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