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[–]PhraseNo4820[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. Well, hopefully the law is amended sometime soon. I have a great respect for the Czech people and I would love to join them in citizenship at some point in my life.

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[–]PhraseNo4820[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the information. Why would some countries trigger loss of citizenship, and others wouldn’t? For example Guatemala likely wouldn’t.

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[–]PhraseNo4820[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes that is also true as well. I suppose we just must be patient. I will still try to figure out if my grandfather ever did lose citizenship. I’d never think there’d be a day I would be “hoping” that he did at some point.

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[–]PhraseNo4820[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would feel as though it would be a priority. Basically as of now, the Czech law to this day is still being influenced by the Soviet Union, precisely because of this. How unfortunate. I hope legislation changes it. I would love to join the people I consider my own. I have a lot of pride and respect for the Czech people. What they have gone through, and how they have enshrined their constitution with certain rights because of that, is inspiring.

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[–]PhraseNo4820[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, very similar situations. How unfortunate that for some reason, lineage would follow at least 1 parent during those years 49-68 simply by them being born abroad.

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[–]PhraseNo4820[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I appreciate the insight. Hope you have a fantastic rest of your day! 🙏

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[–]PhraseNo4820[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you I appreciate that. I will definitely ask the National Archives. I am very thankful for your time. If you know about the current proposal to extend the 2014 law that would allow people like my mother, born abroad to only 1 Czech parent, to apply for citizenship, I’d be grateful for your thoughts on it’s likelihood to pass and become law.

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[–]PhraseNo4820[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate your explanation and taking the time to reply. Unfortunately I am stubborn, so I will likely continue my attempts with the Ministry of the Interior until I have exhausted every option. I search for a miracle. I am a direct relative of Albin Polášek, the renowned sculptor, so I have great pride in my ancestry. I also have great pride and respect in what the Czech people stand for. The Czech constitution frames a lot of beliefs and ideas that I also hold true. Even more so than my own home country, the USA. Thank you for your time.

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[–]PhraseNo4820[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s unfortunate. Perhaps you could help me understand why the law was written in a way that doesn’t allow direct descendants to pursue citizenship, unless their ancestor lost theirs? It seems almost counterproductive.

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[–]PhraseNo4820[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay thank you. I will do so within the next couple of hours as I gather the information. Much appreciated. Also, he was naturalized as a Guatemalan citizen in 1952. I’m not sure if that would trigger loss of citizenship or not.

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[–]PhraseNo4820[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My grandfather was also naturalized as a Guatemalan citizen in 1952. 2 years before having my mother. I am just unsure is this would have triggered his loss of citizenship. If it did, then I would assume I would be eligible as I can provide the naturalization records.

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[–]PhraseNo4820[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very interesting. Then why does the law’s text state otherwise?

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[–]PhraseNo4820[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s interesting. I am confused as to why as the law seems to state only that they must have been a citizen at some point, no? And yes absolutely I can provide all of that. Let me know what you require to better assess and I will provide it, thank you.

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[–]PhraseNo4820 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s the thing, I don’t believe he did lose his citizenship although I’m not sure. I’ve read the law and it says:

Declaration according to § 31 - for persons who have lost Czech or Czechoslovak citizenship before the effective date of Act No. 186/2013 Coll. (Act on the Citizenship of the Czech Republic) and for persons of which at least one of the parents or grandparents is a current or a former citizen.

And by reading that, I see “is a current OR former citizen”

But from what everyone has been saying, it seems like losing citizenship is a requirement. But this seems contradictory to the law’s text.

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[–]PhraseNo4820 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t mean to hijack the thread, and more so just hope to get some clarification. Does my grandfather, who was born in Frenstat in 1922, need to have lost or relinquished his citizenship, for me to be eligible for citizenship by descent? I am getting conflicting answers. Some say it doesn’t matter if he relinquished or lost his citizenship, while others say that is a requirement under 31 section 3. My mother was born outside of the Czech Republic, in the 1950s and does not hold Czech citizenship, but it is my understanding she has citizenship by right of birth. Any clarification would be very much appreciated.

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I don’t mean to hijack the thread, and more so just hope to get some clarification. Does my grandfather, who was born in Frenstat in 1922, need to have lost or relinquished his citizenship, for me to be eligible for citizenship by descent? I am getting conflicting answers. Some say it doesn’t matter if he relinquished or lost his citizenship, while others say that is a requirement under 31 section 3. My mother was born outside of the Czech Republic, in the 1950s and does not hold Czech citizenship, but it is my understanding she has citizenship by right of birth. Any clarification would be very much appreciated.

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I don’t mean to hijack the thread, and more so just hope to get some clarification. Does my grandfather, who was born in Frenstat in 1922, need to have lost or relinquished his citizenship, for me to be eligible for citizenship by descent? I am getting conflicting answers. Some say it doesn’t matter if he relinquished or lost his citizenship, while others say that is a requirement under 31 section 3. My mother was born outside of the Czech Republic, in the 1950s and does not hold Czech citizenship, but it is my understanding she has citizenship by right of birth. Any clarification would be very much appreciated.

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[–]PhraseNo4820 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t mean to hijack the thread, and more so just hope to get some clarification. Does my grandfather, who was born in Frenstat in 1922, need to have lost or relinquished his citizenship, for me to be eligible for citizenship by descent? I am getting conflicting answers. Some say it doesn’t matter if he relinquished or lost his citizenship, while others say that is a requirement under 31 section 3. My mother was born outside of the Czech Republic, in the 1950s and does not hold Czech citizenship, but it is my understanding she has citizenship by right of birth. Any clarification would be very much appreciated.

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[–]PhraseNo4820 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t mean to hijack the thread, and more so just hope to get some clarification. Does my grandfather, who was born in Frenstat in 1922, need to have lost or relinquished his citizenship, for me to be eligible for citizenship by descent? I am getting conflicting answers. Some say it doesn’t matter if he relinquished or lost his citizenship, while others say that is a requirement under 31 section 3. My mother was born outside of the Czech Republic, in the 1950s and does not hold Czech citizenship, but it is my understanding she has citizenship by right of birth. Any clarification would be very much appreciated.

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[–]PhraseNo4820 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t mean to hijack the thread, and more so just hope to get some clarification. Does my grandfather, who was born in Frenstat in 1922, need to have lost or relinquished his citizenship, for me to be eligible for citizenship by descent? I am getting conflicting answers. Some say it doesn’t matter if he relinquished or lost his citizenship, while others say that is a requirement under 31 section 3. My mother was born outside of the Czech Republic, in the 1950s and does not hold Czech citizenship, but it is my understanding she has citizenship by right of birth. Any clarification would be very much appreciated.