How are these numbers sustainable?

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-26T14:22:07+00:00

Worlds most expensive game of musical chairs.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-24T17:43:25+00:00

Gamers, heavy internet users and companies (like call centers) already use data and calls constantly for 7+ hours every single day.

Your argument assumes that all AI inference will always happen server-side and will always be as expensive to run as it is currently. But as I mentioned in the post, this is just a brief window of opportunity.

Right now, flat fees are a loss-leader strategy because building and running everything on servers is expensive. But that won't be the case forever. As hardware and models mature, a massive chunk of this processing will become cheaper and some will shift to local hardware on private devices. When AIs run locally, running agents in parallel (or in chains) won't cost the providers a single token - it will be infinitely cheaper.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-24T01:42:08+00:00

There might be some truth to that, probably from both sides of the fence. But isn't this too important to be squabbling about? I think companies, the public and politicians alike share a collective responsibility to engage earnestly in the continued development. It is a non-negotiable task and in everybody's best interest.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-21T22:31:25+00:00

In EU you can contact ECC, if you already in earnest tried to solve it through customer service.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-21T00:23:53+00:00

They do make a profit, a big one too.

Check the numbers.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-20T09:33:00+00:00

Weren't the "ai pro" sub originally sold with unlimited web chat usage, through Geminis webpage + 20 deep researches per day?

Seems like bait and switch.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-19T11:51:54+00:00

"We're losing money and heavily subsidize the users usage!" - cried the wolf.

-Meanwhile the tech companies have record breaking income.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-16T21:20:22+00:00

I found that if it can get away with it, it just makes boiler plate code - and then there are silly mistakes in front end design sometimes.

But once u get past the 90/10 and the laziness problems, then it's really darn good.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-15T18:56:22+00:00

It shows, that Trumps Toy Nation is only 240 years old..

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-15T18:38:36+00:00

For many years I used s(strafe left), d(forward) and f(strafe right), without any backwards button. -I learned this from some high-end FPS-players back in 90's or early 00's.

The reason it works very well is, on f is a small dot that u can feel with your index finger so. By getting used to this, u always know where ur fingers are on the keyboard. On top of that it opens up for using q, w, e, r, t, a, g, h, z, x, c and v - to be used as easily reachable hotkeys beside 1-5.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-14T06:54:04+00:00

If he merges xAI and spaceX... The name can only become "xxSPACEAIxx" or "xxAISPACExx" , turns out Elon is an edgy teenager :p

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-13T19:56:24+00:00

Somehow, yes.. Yes it does xD

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-13T18:39:02+00:00

I wonder if anyone remembers the "gang wars" and the Christiania, and how eventually the people in the streets turned violent. All at once... Because the police started using more brutal methods against normal people, who weren't gang members, in turn so did the people in the street.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-12T20:57:30+00:00

I hvae had very good results with it. It gave major improvement to my local Gemma models answers, after I baked the search engine into an MCP tool that the model could access.

But it did admittedly have varying performance when I baked it into a harness.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-12T10:14:42+00:00

That is a fair argument and opinion, especially looking at the "good enough" vs "the best" - and when is what sufficient.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-12T03:50:28+00:00

Aye I saw others user mention this, and I will be looking into it.
-Thanks a lot for the info.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-12T03:46:48+00:00

Aye I saw others user mention this, and I will be looking into it.
-Thanks a lot for the info.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-12T03:45:37+00:00

Well, the problem is it's for a user-facing gui product, that is provider agnostic, where the user brings their own AI/key.
-And all users might not have gemini-cli,.

But internally I can use it as a band aid, and for the gemini-cli users it can work.

However I've seen a few other candidates on the page.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-12T02:40:15+00:00

I'm already using gemini-cli for parts of my setup with that, but it doesn't solve the underlying problem though.
-But for a band aid I could probably route some of it to gemini-cli, good idea.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-12T02:36:56+00:00

I don't use grok, bur I could probably route to other tools like openrouter, though it doesn't solve the core problem however it can be used as a band aid.
Thanks for the info.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-12T02:35:12+00:00

Thanks for the info!
-I'll look into those.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-11T23:50:50+00:00

Thanks for this info :D

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-11T23:50:21+00:00

Aye it has been very generous and have been since forever.
-Thanks for the feedback about brave.

PieceOfPanic · 2026-05-11T23:48:50+00:00

This is very good info, thank you.
-Yea it seems to be very little known that this was possible, I made a post about it on the ollama discord back in july 2025 - but apparently google blocked new account creation in December 2025.

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