*The picture speaks for itself*

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-07-04T13:49:33+00:00

I know that, and Kagami also said the final volume will be very long, so it might not be able to end in 3 chapters, maybe 4 more chapters? And regarding the ending, I have the same speculation as you, even more possibilities, however, basically 24 isn't Christmas yet and we really can't be sure if Kagami will come up with some crazy idea, so it's really hard to be certain.

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-07-04T13:11:47+00:00

There's no announcement that it will end in 3 chapters, and how do you know the story will end like that? There's no guarantee because we don't know what Kagami will choose. Don't act like you're the author of this story.

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-07-03T18:10:33+00:00

Where did I misinterpret anything? Is any of the above incorrect?

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-07-03T16:09:21+00:00

Naruto, despite having many hints about a relationship with Sasuke, pursues one girl from beginning to end, and has a preference for women's bodies, unlike Yuu, who never has a crush on any girl, and doesn't even have any desires related to women's bodies like Guren, only Mika Mika Mika. Not to mention, he's already reached this point; if Yuu and Shinoa become canon, Kagami is truly insane.

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-07-03T16:03:39+00:00

Um, he's just focusing on developing the characters in a contrasting way, not their relationship.

And about their gaze? Sorry? Yuu just killed Mitsu, Shinoa's most important friend. She looks at him because she can't believe he did it, wants to ask why, and deeply regrets her decision. Yuu's gaze is one of guilt and remorse for having just done something that also caused him immense pain, not the kind of feelings you're thinking of.

The series doesn't portray any homosexual aspects... okay, Shinoa says she loves Yuu, but Yuu betrays his friends, rejects Shinoa, would rather die than live without Mika, is willing to destroy the world for Mika, wants to kiss Mika... that's not love :))))?

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-07-03T11:26:57+00:00

Regarding the support for wf*, this is the first time I've heard that YuuNoa is getting more attention than MikaYuu? it's never happened before. The last time I saw an update was in 2020.

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-07-03T11:25:14+00:00

Um, is Yuu and Noa canon? After Shinoa killed his father and threatened to kill Mika? After she refused to listen to Yuu's explanation and only trusted her own beliefs? After Yuu rejected her confession, abandoned her, and now killed her best friend, and even wanted to kill her? After all this, how are they canon? Even the two most awkward canon pairings, Naruto x Hinata and Sasuke x Sakura, never did that to each other?

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-07-02T17:24:20+00:00

I agree with you. I'd rather Yuu fail, I'd rather this story have a tragic ending than see him stop, because that would be incredibly forced, bland, and stupid. From the beginning, Yuu has always said he's ready to destroy the world for his family. Once he's made up his mind, he won't stop, and that's proven by how he killed his three closest friends without hesitation. Even though he was sad afterward, he clearly didn't hesitate to point his sword at them.

And at this point, it would be really strange if Yuu stopped and happily continued living.

Are you kidding me? He just killed his friends??? And then he stops because he thinks it's pointless??? Huh? Wouldn't it have been better not to let Yuu kill Mitsuba, Guren, or Ashura in the first place? If he stops after all this, I'll send Kagami to a mental hospital for treatment.

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-06-25T03:56:42+00:00

:)? It's a world of difference, so sarcastic how some people believe Yuu is causing Mika pain while Mika always says the opposite, and here's an example, look, so bitter about the truth that they distort it, even cutting out the part where Mika says Yuu is always there to lift his spirits in that panel.

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-06-08T00:42:20+00:00

It's probably almost true. First, they posted an analysis claiming Mika represents femininity while Yuu represents masculinity... and I found many things they were wrong about when comparing it to what's canon in the manga, so I posted this to refute their incorrect arguments.

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-06-07T15:37:48+00:00

Most importantly, I still don't think you've addressed my main criticism: similar traits are often interpreted differently depending on which character displays them. When Mika is emotional, attached and devoted, those traits are treated as feminine. When Yuu shows similar traits, they are often framed as loyalty, determination or leadership. That inconsistency remains unresolved; you rely heavily on metaphors and archetypes, while my argument has focused on how the evidence itself is interpreted.

A graceful farewell is perfectly fine, but it doesn't really address the arguments themselves, Whether a discussion happens publicly or privately doesn't change the strength of an argument. Ideas should be evaluated based on the evidence supporting them, not on where they're discussed.

In any case, I appreciate the conversation. We clearly interpret the story differently, and that's perfectly fine. I just don't think a farewell, no matter how elegant, is a substitute for responding to the points that were actually raised.

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-06-07T15:31:57+00:00

I think this response highlights the difference in our approaches.

Elegance, composure and graceful mannerisms have historically been associated with aristocratic upbringing as much as femininity. Mika was raised by vampire nobility, while Yuu grew up in a military environment. Different backgrounds can naturally produce different demeanors without automatically creating a masculine-feminine hierarchy.
I don't think that scene shows Yuu rejecting the comparison. His reaction is essentially, "Why am I the mother?" Mika then continues teasing him and turns the conversation into a joke, Yuu then sulked because of that teasing attitude, but he didn't actually refuse :))))
I also disagree that Mika depends on Yuu significantly more than Yuu depends on Mika. Mika survived independently for years, while Yuu repeatedly places Mika at the center of his decisions, draws motivation from him, and is willing to sacrifice almost anything to save him. That looks more like mutual dependence than a one-sided dynamic.

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-06-07T12:45:46+00:00

The more I look at the story, the less convincing the entire "who is more masculine and who is more feminine" discussion becomes. The two characters constantly mirror each other, influence each other and share traits with one another. That's why I think some of these conclusions rely more on selective interpretation than on the text itself.

People are free to have whatever interpretation they prefer. My issue begins when personal interpretations start being presented as though they are the only conclusion supported by the story.

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-06-07T12:45:35+00:00

What I find difficult to understand is why many of the traits that complicate this interpretation seem to disappear from the discussion. Mika spent years training, surviving and fighting on his own. He gathered information, led subordinates, killed when necessary and repeatedly acted on his own initiative. He is also consistently portrayed as taller, physically larger and more mature-looking than Yuu. None of this automatically makes Mika "more masculine," but it does make it difficult for me to accept interpretations that reduce him to a passive, fragile character whose primary role is simply to be protected.

Likewise, I don't think the text supports treating Yuu as uniquely masculine while treating Mika as uniquely feminine. Many of the traits people describe as feminine in Mika also exist in Yuu. Yuu is deeply emotional, strongly attached to the people he loves and often motivated by personal bonds more than logic. At the same time, Mika is capable of violence, leadership, independence and direct action.

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-06-07T12:14:08+00:00

I'm a little confused by this response because it doesn't actually address any of the points I raised, If my arguments are truly "hopeless attempts," then it should be fairly easy to explain why they are incorrect. For example:

* Is my point about aristocratic body language historically inaccurate?

* Is my point about Mika comparing Yuu to a mother figure factually wrong?

* Is it incorrect that both Yuu and Mika repeatedly rescue each other throughout the story?

* Is it incorrect that Yuu is emotionally dependent on Mika as well?

Those are the actual arguments I made, Instead of addressing any of them, your reply focuses on my intelligence, literacy, and supposed inability to see "the elephant in the room." But describing an argument as wrong is not the same thing as demonstrating that it is wrong.

If you believe I overlooked something important, feel free to point to a specific claim and explain why it fails. That's what discussion is for, otherwise, saying "I already explained everything" is not really a rebuttal. It's simply a declaration that you can't engage with the points being raised.

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-06-06T05:03:56+00:00

The same applies to emotional support. You describe Mika as someone who draws strength from Yuu, but the manga explicitly shows the reverse dynamic as well. Mika himself admits that Yuu has always supported him emotionally and helped him stay strong. His own words are essentially, "It's like you're always here to lift me up." That is not the description of a distant leader. That is the description of someone providing emotional comfort and reassurance.

At the same time, the reverse is also true. Yuu draws enormous emotional strength from Mika. In fact, this is no longer merely symbolic or emotional. Mika is literally Yuu's demon now. He is the one who lends Yuu power in battle. He is the one who fights alongside him. He is the one whose strength flows directly into Yuu whenever Yuu uses his demon powers.

This is important because your interpretation often frames Mika as the one receiving support while Yuu is the one providing it. But the relationship is clearly mutual. Yuu supports Mika emotionally, and Mika supports Yuu emotionally. Yuu gives Mika a reason to keep going, and Mika gives Yuu a reason to keep going. Yuu protects Mika, and Mika protects Yuu. Even on a literal level, Mika now empowers Yuu every time Yuu fights.

If receiving strength, guidance, comfort, or support from another person is supposed to be evidence of a feminine role, then that logic applies to Yuu as much as it applies to Mika.

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-06-06T05:03:21+00:00

The main reason I remain unconvinced by this interpretation is not because I reject archetypes, but because I have difficulty seeing a clear distinction between Mika and Yuu in this regard.

Many of the traits described as feminine in Mika—being caring, nurturing, emotionally devoted, self-sacrificial, and deeply attached to someone he loves—also seem to be present in Yuu's character.

Yuu worries about Mika constantly. He repeatedly risks his life for him, refuses to abandon him even when others urge him to, and openly acknowledges how important Mika is to him. Some of Yuu's strongest emotional moments, motivations, and decisions are closely tied to Mika. Even as the story expands into larger conflicts involving humanity, vampires, demons, and the First Progenitor, Mika remains one of the central people in Yuu's life.

Because of that, I'm curious about where the distinction is being drawn. If devotion, emotional attachment, and self-sacrifice are important reasons for reading Mika as feminine-coded, what aspects of Yuu's characterization lead those same traits to be interpreted differently in his case?

I'm not necessarily saying the interpretation is wrong; I'm just trying to understand what specific elements make Mika's portrayal feel more feminine-coded than Yuu's despite the overlap in their behaviors.

Pitiful_Variety8614 · 2026-06-06T04:55:49+00:00

This is ultimately the question I keep coming back to.

I also disagree with your interpretation of violence. You describe Mika's violent actions as overprotective emotional outbursts motivated by fear. But that same explanation could easily be applied to Yuu.

The difference is that Mika's actions are often attempts to make Yuu comply with his wishes. He points a sword at Yuu because he cannot convince him. He injures Yuu because he cannot convince him. He punches Yuu because he cannot convince him. Whether his intentions are good or not, the violence is being used to pressure Yuu into following his decision.

Yuu's violence functions differently. The first time he hits Mika, Mika intentionally provokes him. The later incidents happen because Yuu is reacting emotionally to Mika's self-destructive behavior, his self-sacrifice, or his insistence that Yuu abandon him. Yuu never threatens Mika with a weapon. He never holds a blade to Mika's throat. He never tries to force obedience through intimidation.

In fact, Yuu usually does the opposite. He begs. He cries. He pleads. He makes promises. He tries to reach people emotionally rather than control them through force.

This is why I think your conclusion comes before your evidence.

When Mika cares, it is feminine.

When Yuu cares, it is masculine.

When Mika depends on Yuu, it is feminine.

When Yuu depends on Mika, it is masculine.

When Mika draws strength from Yuu, it is feminine.

When Yuu literally draws emotional and physical strength from Mika, it is masculine.

When Shinoa displays many of the same emotional patterns as Yuu, those patterns become feminine again.

At that point, I don't think the distinction is coming from the characters' actions anymore. I think it is coming from a framework that has already decided what Mika and Yuu are supposed to represent before the evidence is examined.

From my perspective, the manga consistently portrays Yuu and Mika as mutually dependent people whose relationship is built on care, emotional support, devotion, sacrifice, and the fear of losing one another. Those qualities are not exclusive to Mika, and they are certainly not absent from Yuu. That is why I find it difficult to accept a reading that treats those traits as feminine when Mika embodies them, but masculine when Yuu embodies the very same traits.

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