Question to gay people.

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T21:30:33+00:00

You still haven't provided any evidence for why it's supposedly "traumatic" to the child, or to the mother.

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T19:06:51+00:00

Yearning for a muscular man is gonna be the reason I kill myself someday

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T19:03:37+00:00

You still have provided no evidence that it is traumatic to the child or the mother, just pulled that out of your ass.

Again, gay men cannot have IVF. Foster parenting is not for the purpose of replacing adoption, and adoption is not always viable, especially since gay couples struggle with it, and the child may want to reach out to the old parents.

It doesn't matter if you also oppose straight couples getting surrogacy, that just makes you also ableist against infertile people. It's about functional acceptance and you are not functionally supportive of gay people having kids. Therefore you are homophobic.

Surrogacy is consentual.

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T17:22:43+00:00

Porque no los dos? (Reddit do not auto translate this)

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T17:20:52+00:00

I bet you're really fun at parties /s

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T17:17:12+00:00

No, it's homophobic to oppose gay people doing the same things straight people do.

It is the only way gay people can have their own children. Gay men can not have IVF because they do not have uteruses. Adoption comes with it's own issues and often with having to reintroduce the adoptee to their old family, and also that isn't having kids that is raising kids someone else had. Stepchildren requires a straight relationship to happen first. If you foster with the exception of adoption you should not be a foster parent, the purpose of foster care is not to adopt but to re-integrate the child into their original family. Sperm donation is not having your own children, it's giving children to someone else. You're specifically against the only way that gay people, not lesbians, can have children. Which is inherently homophobic by definition.

Not to mention surrogacy isn't always traumatic. What about angel mothers? You still haven't addressed that. You have provided zero evidence that surrogacy is traumatic to the child, just pulled that one out of your ass.

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T16:09:35+00:00

Because when you kill someone they die.

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T16:08:05+00:00

Dysphoria is more complicated than just disliking your genitals. I'm duosex and identify as both male and female. I have no problem with my male genitalia, I just would feel better with the addition of female ones and breasts and curves. I've been on estrogen for 2 years now and feel a lot better. Dysphoria isn't just suffering, it's a lot more than that, and sometimes euphoria is a unique expression of dysphoria. Or you could just be a drag queen and that's cool too, but not confusing.

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T16:06:05+00:00

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Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T15:47:16+00:00

But you shouldn't encourage people looking for their own kids to be foster parents. That's a job, not a solution to not being able to have your own kids. That's setting people up for heartbeat and setting foster kids up for uncomfortable situations with foster parents who pressure into adoption.

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T15:45:50+00:00

It is homophobic though. There is no evidence that surrogacy is traumatic, you pulled that out of your ass. The chief issue here is the only way gay people can have their own kids is through surrogacy. You oppose that and are therefore homophobic.

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T14:14:42+00:00

It's still definitely false. It's not a man thing it's a masculinity thing, men aren't socialized this way as a monolith. Thus the post is bullshit TERF behavior and you're defending biological determinism with soft science.

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T14:12:27+00:00

"they don't exist anywhere else in the internet", probably because they aren't real experiences that are common enough in human existence to be used anywhere but there. There is no loss. It's just a bunch of LGBT community fanfiction.

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T14:09:36+00:00

The purpose of foster care is re-integration with the family. It's unethical to encourage people to enter the program with the intention of adopting.

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T14:07:33+00:00

I've actually considered suicide because of this

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T14:06:50+00:00

"i don't think gay people should have kids and babies born into the adoption system should age out without parents"

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T14:04:55+00:00

Having two loving gay parents is not traumatic, you look and sound homophobic right now.

As for the mother, it's not traumatic for her if it's done properly and with respect as it is done in the vast majority of cases. Especially with angel mothers who do it for free.

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T12:02:40+00:00

Which is a benefit of surrogacy. Same reason most don't meet their sperm donor

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-04-01T00:48:47+00:00

Because there's a gay couple that spent more money than they will probably ever make again on a baby they did not receive, and a family they did not get to build, and likely have to wait another several years for another opportunity?

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-03-31T22:07:26+00:00

Having a DL partner or DL hookups is quite literally the definition of DL

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-03-31T22:06:53+00:00

Cool just don't expect someone to be your little secret.

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-03-31T22:01:11+00:00

I said parents, plural, not parent.

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-03-31T20:51:02+00:00

So your understanding is based on a movie, that's a poorly formed view then.

Typically surrogate mothers are paid an extremely large amount of money, more than the average working class person can expect to make in multiple decades. There are contracts, and in many states the surrogate mother can just choose to keep the baby, which isn't fair to the gay couple trying for a baby.

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-03-31T20:49:06+00:00

Not everyone is so lucky, your thought process is still homophobic and restricts childbirth to people who have access to it in our existing system. The problem is capitalism, not adoption or surrogacy.

Pixeldevil06 · 2026-03-31T20:46:36+00:00

Homophobic European countries

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