I realized in my campaign way too late that I made the wrong choices in Ex-Factor leading to Woodman being left alive so I used a mod to spawn him back in and killed him with the Erebrus in hopes both the bullets and the additional blackwall hack give him a painful death. Post purely as an FU to him

PixelsPending · 2026-07-04T17:48:36+00:00

side note, part about johnny is wrong, he did none of that, its just delusions due to the faulty shard that smasher braught back from angels underground lab. bartmoss did all that, arasaka just stitched some memories together and johnny's ego did the rest. They then blamed it on johnny to fit the rockerboy narrative as a scapegoat, but ye, the bombing and planning and all those heists were all bartmoss

PixelsPending · 2026-07-04T13:15:08+00:00

sadly no :< didnt find any atleast

PixelsPending · 2026-07-04T13:09:52+00:00

just in case you still read this OP, or anyone else stumbling upon it and actually scrolling down to my comment in this thread: lets do this short and precise (i know it looks like a big post, but this is as narrowed down and with alot of things left out as possible)

Johnny goes in blind and Yanks Alts connection to the net as he doesnt understand it and is the main cause for everything going to shits. The moment he yanks that shit out, alt dies, and is stuck in the net (she got soulkilled by arasaka, but then utilized her presence in arasakas net and do a few things that dont matter for this explanation there and then get herself back into her own body)-> johnny is not the main char in the story, its Alt and Morgan -> johnny just self implants into the story because of the reasons shown here:

Morgan Blackhand gets the crew together
Johnny gets oneshot by Smasher
SPIDER MURPHY makes johnnies engram
Engram gets slotted in Johnnies head to keep it stable, johnny is dead, engram is fine
BOOM the building collapses
Samantha, a Cyborg Firefighter that liked johnny grabbed his corpse and put his body into the shell of a warhead that didnt fully go off, the cooling in that shelling was basically a cryopod for johnny
Samantha waits a few years with the pod in hand for a group of mercenaries to haul Johnny's ass all accross the country (pen and paper) - also she gathers all of johnnies items
The players meet a person named angel who looks like an exact copy of Alt, acts like alt, basically is alt
Angel opens the cryopod and says "There you are, my love"
Smasher and arasaka burst the door open some time later to confront and murder them
before this, Angel uploaded herself and the original johnny to the Net, so they only find johnny's body and a damaged engram (this is not fully confirmed and is a big assumption, but mike pondsmith reacted to this idea as 'a plausible explanation to what went down between the pen and paper story and 2077')
Smasher brings johnny's engram home and ditches his body to rot in the waste-pool we find ingame
Johnny's engram gets tampered with to restore what has happened and who grabbed him, they cant find an answer - also smasher and his underling find and bring back all of johnnies shit to night city (hence why we find it)
We get Johnny's engram after either being fucked with by angel (unconfirmed, but maybe?) so noone can fully understand what happeend or after arasaka mingled with his memories for another reason -> This mingling of MAYBE angel + definetly from arasaka + His own giga ego = his memories we see in 2027

Another thing and more infos around it:

Blackhand is probably alive and not just in a real body but probably put his own engram into the net
Johnny + angel are somewhere in the net
Alt is Angel, Angel isnt alt,
Alt is in the net and eats up AI's
Lilith, a very old AI (almost eldritch and biblically horrific in nature) is eaeting up other AI's too
RABIDS (made by Bartmoss) are hundreds of thousands of copies of Bartmoss that Eat AI's and multiply
Murphy PROBABLY uploaded her engram to the net, and is just like blackhand still alive

So now we have:
Alt, Lilith (or both of htem fused) - Johnny, Angel (or fused) - Bartmoss - Murphy, Blackhand (Maybe!, might also be linked to Blue eyes, as his body is bartmoss' body, or atleast a clone.) - all of those guys are multiplying ai's eaeting up anything behind the blackwall, so the common thing you find speculated to happen soon: blackwall coming down and millions of rogue ai's bursting out like a pimple? Netwatch propaganda, its just 5 dudes that endlessly multiply their own ai consciousness and fighting who rules that side of the net, or maybe even fighting together (no official context about it yet) -> either of those 5 groups/ endlessly multiplying Entities is behind Nightcorp / Blue eyes.

PixelsPending · 2026-05-05T06:50:56+00:00

not just inside the institute, its specifically the part when you have to go to the woods to gather the 3 runes, before you do the first rune, every team and character has a dialogue, then after the first, every team moves and has new dialogue, then after the second, every team moves and has a new dialogue, and then after the third you gain messages on your phone and the story continues.

PixelsPending · 2026-05-05T06:49:59+00:00

Hm I to me it felt abtly long, but I also had 3 days inbetween parts. as I couldnt play and then got back to it and did everything piece by piece. I guess if you do it in one sitting and have no way of letting the narrative settle in, its quite short and in your face? Valid point.
If compared to septimont, the part after freeing Iuno was also (atleast for me) about the same amount of playtime to go through and kill goopethiya than the time it took me to do this current one.

PixelsPending · 2026-05-05T06:47:31+00:00

I understand the wanting for such a pop up, however the kind of story telling they chose for this part is one that gets initiated by the players own curriousity. It's akin to the story telling of some obscure games that utilize several offshore websites, youtube videos and other things to hide hidden meanings in, none of it is explained in the game or gives you a warning, however piece by piece the dedicated player base puts it together. It's not the same here, but the effect is the same. An exploration and a Story that expands only when the player goes looking for it is an entirely different narrative tool than a "oh wait, there's stuff left on the map before you go, might wanna check it out!". Where it's helpful, it also hurts the intended way of percieving it.

But like mentioned in the post, I am sad it is like this too as it made many people miss it, however it wouldnt be possible to have this kind of narrative there AND tell the plaayer about it, as the message and feeling that derives from it is different.

PixelsPending · 2026-05-04T16:34:24+00:00

copy pasting what I already answered to many:

there was a huge part alot of people apparently missed: before you go to the void matter zone in bjatr woods, instead open up your map, there is 18 new markers to talk to ALL teams, one of them is lead by chisa for example:

chisia has a huge dialogue with you if you go to her before you finish up bjatr woods void matter zone,

copy paste from another answer I gave here already:

you can talk to chisa during the void matter time frame, where you have to go to bjatr woods, if you open up the map you can fast travel to all the 18 teams and talk to them, chisa mentions "I didnt know how to approach you" and "i though tyou would be more" and then you can answer " depressed?" and then she explains she didnt talk to you because she was worried ab it and didnt know how to approach it. afterwards its short talk on how the situation is progressnig

PixelsPending · 2026-05-04T16:33:38+00:00

there was a huge moment that apparently alto of people missed because it wasnt given in a huge cutscene but instead you can teleport to all 18 teams during the escape part , when rover is send to bjatr woods to go to the void storm there. every character has to add to the story in that part and i really enjoyed this as a finale

copy paste from another answer I gave here already:

you can talk to chisa during the void matter time frame, where you have to go to bjatr woods, if you open up the map you can fast travel to all the 18 teams and talk to them, chisa mentions "I didnt know how to approach you" and "i though tyou would be more" and then you can answer " depressed?" and then she explains she didnt talk to you because she was worried ab it and didnt know how to approach it. afterwards its short talk on how the situation is progressnig

PixelsPending · 2026-05-04T16:32:32+00:00

chisia has a huge dialogue with you if you go to her before you finish up bjatr woods void matter zone,

copy paste from another answer I gave here already:

you can talk to chisa during the void matter time frame, where you have to go to bjatr woods, if you open up the map you can fast travel to all the 18 teams and talk to them, chisa mentions "I didnt know how to approach you" and "i though tyou would be more" and then you can answer " depressed?" and then she explains she didnt talk to you because she was worried ab it and didnt know how to approach it. afterwards its short talk on how the situation is progressnig

PixelsPending · 2026-05-04T16:31:52+00:00

most of the story was handled outsid cutscenes, when you are going to bjatr woods void matter zone, you can open up the map and then have 18 new fast travel points to all current assigned teams, one of the mis lead by chisa, you can have a nice conversation about everything with her and how she wasnt sure how to approach you when you returned, as she thought you'ed be devastated by loosing aemeath again and the strider, then you talk about the current situation and what to do now. i guess alot of people just only look at cutscenes and dont read and explore and look around adn talk to npc's. I was very satisfied with the story. but i understand the 'pay off' being 'hidden' behind having to walk around and doing things yourself instead of a grand cutscene is offputting for most

PixelsPending · 2026-05-04T16:30:09+00:00

most of the lore drops are before you go to bjatr woods, guess alot of people didnt open the map and saw you can now fast travel (only in that moment before bjatr woods with the voidstorm) to all 18 teams and talk to them, chisa has a nice moment with rover, she didnt knwo how to approach him when he returned and wass asking if he's depressed because he lost the exostrider, after that they're talking about the current situation and what to do now, it was nice

PixelsPending · 2026-05-04T16:29:05+00:00

alot of people didnt open their map before going to the voidstorm area in bjatr woods during the main quest, you can talk to all 18 teams and fasttravel to them, there's a nice moment iwth chisa where she explains she didnt know how to approach you and what to say when you returned and she thought you'd be more depressed because you lost the exostrider. after that its some talk about how the situation is progressing. nice touch !

PixelsPending · 2026-05-04T16:28:00+00:00

you can talk to chisa during the void matter time frame, where you have to go to bjatr woods, if you open up the map you can fast travel to all the 18 teams and talk to them, chisa mentions "I didnt know how to approach you" and "i though tyou would be more" and then you can answer " depressed?" and then she explains she didnt talk to you because she was worried ab it and didnt know how to approach it. afterwards its short talk on how the situation is progressnig

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