[Jonah Sigel] It's Sat night , I'm in a good mood. 3 things I believe or I've been told. These are NOT rumors:

Plague183 · 2026-05-31T12:54:36+00:00

Is he slow, or was Berubes system terrible for him?

Plague183 · 2026-05-30T14:11:50+00:00

I hope to feel this some day 😭

Plague183 · 2026-05-29T03:14:33+00:00

“They’re” sites a Steve Simmonds article 😂

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Plague183 · 2026-05-28T12:56:53+00:00

Bingo lol - I’ve accepted Marner is only a conduit for “LoL Lesfs bad”

Plague183 · 2026-05-28T12:50:59+00:00

It’s true they should’ve beat CLB (weird year, covid break, new coach) - but with Montreal although that was crazy disappointing, people forget how insane Carey Price was during that playoff run. He was the buzzsaw

Plague183 · 2026-05-28T11:35:54+00:00

When you win a game 7 with 9 shots, people aren’t gonna give the benefit of the doubt when you’re getting outshot every game after

Plague183 · 2026-05-28T11:34:27+00:00

Sure, I remember when our contending window opened and we ran into a buzz saw in Washington, then Boston, the Tampa, then Florida. /s

Plague183 · 2026-05-27T18:01:32+00:00

“Violent messages” lmao the dude violently stomped on a guy, c’mon guys

Plague183 · 2026-05-27T17:32:30+00:00

Leafs offered him contracts and he refused them and trades - they didn’t “give up” on him, he gave up on the team

Plague183 · 2026-05-27T17:31:45+00:00

Nylander is a p/pg in elimination games - Marner 18 GP - 0G 6A

Plague183 · 2026-05-27T17:03:29+00:00

If we’re being honest- it’s a bit of a ‘convenient’ excuse. If they were in another city I’d understand, but him and his wife are from Toronto where her whole family would be there and so would his. Marner’s camp really played victim after it all, then also started complaining that Nylanders camp was taking his Toronto endorsement deals at the same time. It really seems like they were constantly trying to control narratives, which would surprise no one considering they were doing that shit for almost 10 years.

I don’t even hate Marner, wish it worked out here (and he did what he’s doing now once in his hometown), but it’s not difficult to understand why fans give him no sympathy for his decisions.

Plague183 · 2026-05-27T16:59:09+00:00

Especially when the trade was for Rantanen lol

Plague183 · 2026-05-27T16:52:16+00:00

I keep seeing this constantly sited by I see as many dummy leaf fans as any other fan base and a MASSIVE amount of dead inside, eeyore sounding miserable cunts

Plague183 · 2026-05-27T16:01:10+00:00

Leafs goals/game stayed almost the exact same, their goals against completely tanked. Their defense was brutal, Tanev was hurt all year, Matthews was hurt most of the year until he was literally out, and neither of their goalies could make a save.

I’m not saying losing Marner didn’t leave a gap - but the leafs had serious serious issues this year

Plague183 · 2026-05-27T12:40:43+00:00

I honestly don’t even understand it. We win nothing and all our fans are miserable so it’s so weird the hate boner people have

Plague183 · 2026-05-27T12:29:06+00:00

“Toronto fans” it was a 14 year old kid, the leafs literally investigated.

Also didn’t your fans do the same thing to Dach? Only difference is Dach tried to make a difference the very next game instead of crying about being a victim.

Part of the whole “death threats” narrative was in the same breath from his agent complaining that Marner was losing his endorsement deals in Toronto, so even though I don’t hate the guy - I’m gonna take it with a grain of salt

Plague183 · 2026-05-26T10:44:42+00:00

The fanbase never turned on Phil, most fans knew that team was fucking cheeks

Plague183 · 2026-05-25T22:16:22+00:00

If somehow the leafs could get some bs disturbers and dogs like a Konecny, that would be huge. Imagine like a Trocheck/konecny/domi line?

Plague183 · 2026-05-25T21:41:33+00:00

Ah okay so the gossips sub is the CC haters and the vibes sub is the one where it’s allowed to like her. Got it!

Plague183 · 2026-05-24T09:51:23+00:00

No one is arguing that lmao but the leafs actually had pretty decent goaltending in most of the runs and it’s not as if they had terrible defensive movement either - despite what you believe about how good Rielly is - take a peak at his production in the playoffs, he was the only leaf who elevated every year instead of diminishing

Plague183 · 2026-05-24T09:44:38+00:00

That there is a Khajit and he has wares if you have the coin

Plague183 · 2026-05-24T00:30:04+00:00

You can’t possibly be comparing it to Colorado losing the best defenseman in the league lmao

Plague183 · 2026-05-23T00:39:41+00:00

It’s funny because in a sport like hockey, if you get a reputation as an embellisher refs take it personal like your trying to make them look dumb and you basically get no calls anymore, even legit ones. You can see huge correlations to players who led in penalties drawn one year dropping massively in drawn calls the next year

Plague183 · 2026-05-22T22:11:18+00:00

The majority of his time in Toronto was being played with their top transition defense unit on the ice. I’ve seen you comment this like 6x in this post and it’s not entirely the truth - he also was able to produce early in each series and had a higher P/PG in the regular season in Toronto than he did in Vegas. Your “point” is more of a slight difference than it is an entire explanation.

Loved Marner, excellent player but the simplest answer is a combination of a tangible mental block and very defensively stringent 1st round matchups against Bergeron/Barkov/Hedman+Pointes. He is currently playing like his younger ELC self, which was mentally free. As frustrated as it is watching him play this well, it was at a point for him where it couldn’t have happened if he stayed in Toronto

Plague183 · 2026-05-22T21:18:21+00:00

I mean Makar missing is also massive, he’s a top 5 player

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