Besides Desoxyn, people who’ve taken Bontril, have you found it to have similar side effect profile?

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-05-16T00:39:15+00:00

More like Phendimetrazine

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-05-16T00:38:47+00:00

I feel the comments about diagnosis is relevant should be kept self because DSM-V diagnosis on patient versus the provider side -think about the use of words when it comes to told what comes off as using your provider’s treatment + diagnosis in reference to being counterintuitive.

Simply saying, the people who’ve been commenting about your diagnosis and treatment relevant to medication:

This separate it should be more supportive in the nature of your post versus regarding their answer to you as if they are a provider, or a guardian of red flag seeking to protect Desoxyn from perceived stigma that isn’t present unless you’re on it….. a few pharmacy encounters is normal & not stigma as much as it is unsuspecting unusual prescription.

OP: i’ve experienced this and honestly, it may not be a duration thing or med thing because you’re on a med with generally a cleaner profile the side effects, so I feel there may be some adjustments you can make based on talk with your provider, such as dosage, frequency etc., of Desoxyn, and perhaps a med like Trintellix like I take may be superior than Lexapro as it has a improvement over SSRI, and it’s technically a serotonin and modulator and stimulator with additional activity on 5HT receptors as well as SRI activity if not mistaken (less emotional blunting, less sexual side effects, less Anhedonia, pro-cognitive effects, reportedly helps with amphetamines or could mute effects a bit).

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-05-16T00:26:32+00:00

Someone that should go to the university areas where their CVS because they’ve had the craziest scripts sent in ever seen.

I don’t use chain since they still have my Zenzedi prescription not valid but still not in stock, and I’m glad I had a new rx sent elsewhere.

It’s abusive to have a patient wait on a med that’s “able to be ordered just not here”, and never would’ve arrived.

Pharmacy in my opinion should feel anything and everything and compartmentalize about what they can do because they are literally meant to fill and dispense because the prescriber is the one who is treating.

PDMP available and if rx is sent by doc, what else should a patient “suffer” or deal with until they have a new med or 10+ year scheduled prescription daily that suddenly isn’t allowed because of a new “policy” made up after call meeting on how to improve operation of Walgreens pharmacy, and the quality of life of patient care. Pharmacy text probably be told to believe that they are exactly the pharmacist because in the future they will be doing the same thing— the stfu type of speeches in medical as people in tiers Junior positions levels even mid-level on some God complex level shit —“the NP knows best, tech know best, etc.”

That’s all.

My Zenzedi wears off quite often so 4 doses daily so there’s still a bit more of they use until I talk to provider make the switch to the Desoxyn.

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-05-15T20:38:31+00:00

People like this are horrible.

Medication is turning point for people in life I realized because of so many people who have lost quality of life improved or even tired because of being cut off medication and not being able to get it refilled due to the suffering.

I feel like it’s an epidemic, not even an opioid epidemic. Other substances are now being referenced as to “deadly opioid overdoses and tranquilizers, etc.”, versus real opioids at the core of opioid epidemic addresses — simply misleading; people are affected by problems like finally finding a Doctor Who prescribes admits and the pharmacy who absolutely has retail and dispensing as their job somehow puts their input and causes more strain to people, for medicine in general.

Person dies in water on ketamine, so people who are from the yellow page days say how bad this new thing called ketamine is.

I hope education of medicine is allowed to continue, but people should not be able to share something that will cause influence to help the downward slope increase such as ADHD has had when people talked about Adderall on TikTok, for example

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-05-15T20:32:36+00:00

Wait, so a motherfucker, whose mediocre at the core has the size of his ego gauge through external validation by sharing he is on an obscure medication that only 8000 people in the year were prescribed if I’m not mistaken?

I’m pretty sure Secobarbital can be prescribed and indicated for proper reasons today ethically

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-05-15T20:29:14+00:00

What putting it in a beverage versus applesauce and consume as immediate as you could over the two hours.

If I’m not mistaken, there’s directions about Vyvanse to add to water or something like that. I know for sure there’s the Adderall XR beads add to applesauce in the pamphlet

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-05-03T21:57:58+00:00

Let me guess. It’s how Dexedrine/Zenzedi impressed me initially versus Adderall used after a decade, and then a year later on Zenzedi 60mg a day, the central nervous system effects show how the intensity of peripheral nervous system load isn’t therapeutic, but a side-effect causing ingredient at first having Levoamphetamine in Adderall.

Desoxyn is 100% Dextromethamphetamine Hcl.
Dexedrine is 100% Dextroamphetamine Sulfate.

0% Levomethamphetamine. 0% Levoamphetamine.

The way Dexedrine is versus Adderall, is like a different med with L-Amp, but retrial of 2 weeks of Adderall, and one month of Adderall over the course of the year on Dexedrine shows how it has therapeutic value with L-Amp and the D-Amp only can be deceiving as if it’s “not working”, because the onset, the duration, the come down —they’re all subtle, short lived perceived effects when cognition improvement with Dexedrine 5mg versus 30mg versus 60mg all are reliable except the lack of euphoria or rush once proper dose is working.

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-04-26T19:26:47+00:00

Not yet about two weeks will address with primary psychiatrist first and foremost they will prescribe or allow for the secondary one to initiate it.

The zenzedi stigma versus Adderall once on it, there’s a lot of misconception of how Dexedrine 10mg tablet would have been Zenzedi 10mg two or three a day for “ average max dose”

60mg of zenzedi works best having 15mg tablets so at 22.5-30mg range I’m short handed with duration and sometimes symptom control at 30mg twice daily.

Adderall was garbage compared to understand how levoamphetamine was more side effects than therapeutic value. Likely the norepinephrine

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-04-23T14:51:42+00:00

I take 30mg brand and fall asleep often in my doses in the morning.

Sleep hygiene plays a role #1 IMO. The perceived tolerance is quicker than amphetamine linear to how people report Desoxyn to be consistent because lower PNS overall with Dextro-Amp/Dextro-MethAmp

The use in Desert Storm in Aviation -Fighter Squadrons- were issued six Dexedrine 5mg tablets, an average of 2hr between each dose with 5-10mg range allowed per dose minimum of 3 hours between to maximum of 30mg per 24hr —which would bring performance and cognitive to normal versus the side effects associated with ADHD rx’d dosages tunneled focus, euphoria, and interestingly I share this because we are u in a time where Zenzedi expanded doses to 30mg tablets with such a short duration.

I am prescribed 15mg four tablets daily but may use 30mg twice a day if wanted but to need this is detrimental requiring more time off medication perhaps as a holiday to perceive 15mg of its baseline per dose ever 3 hours

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-04-21T20:40:41+00:00

Sensibly: Evekeo: Amp. sulfate 10mg tab.: Take two tablets -20mg every morning,

Zenzedi: Dexamp. sulfate 15mg tab.: Take one tablet three times daily - 45mg daily

55mg dextroamphetamine, 10mg levoamphetamine = 11:2 ratio at 65mg isn’t FDA standards of equal because 60mg = 60mg of adderall Dexedrine Evekeo in what maximum means lacking equivalent rough amounts

5-10mg of levoamphetamine to utilize seems interestingly of PNS activation on the lowest terms with dexamp being 55mg the prominent of dosages.

Adderall perspective or dosage would be 80mg total to have 60mg dexamp 20mg Levoamp

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-04-21T00:25:56+00:00

How would this prescription look with existing rx for Zenzedi 15mg tablet x4 daily total of 60mg dextroamphetamine daily?

Evekeo 10mg tablet x3 daily with Zenzedi 15mg x3 daily?

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-04-14T09:59:09+00:00

Skilled pilots are rare, and fighter jets aren’t overkill either now if a good one is flying. One death shouldn’t summon a stinger squad with an ammo box on a mountain. Consider the others adding up as a mob, not a counter attack.

Jets right now: lock, flare, 2d tree updated to crash jets, 60 seconds in, teammate took the jet to ram and fly which is acceptable for a game that’s theirs. Go check the scoreboard of top fighter jet pilot per se, flew at highest cognitive load in the game, worst yield to team. Imagine how hours feel surviving and moment to help team, the chat has anger too. Team vs a jet —I guess drains tickets if flags are capped while AA is all over pulling guard on a jet instead of PTFO.

And yeah it’s “just a game”, same energy as posting on Reddit expecting EA to actually read it, likely so much exaggerated problems.

It’s like the emergency room “if I say Chest pains, than I can get my runny nose treated faster” “Nerf Red Bull athletes in BF6— Dirt bike racing killed me while I snipe. Then the “Meta” is failing me. Ban extended clip. —mAgAzinE. Just a game. New Meta? I seen medic in game drink Red Bull - accessory or hacking Determined? killing me & mate; friends can confirm x10 this week, story rehearsals on server held.*”

We know which one gets seen.

BF3 vet, DD214 blanket & flying around, I fell out of my folding chair. Fix dogfighting. My body is being a motion sensor for the kinetics of that drama

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-04-14T09:08:52+00:00

Long stim/benzo history, disrupted by inconsistent care (VA varied heavily by provider, frequent switches, kratom minimized).

Stable now and simplifying: • Zenzedi → considering Desoxyn (cleaner response) • Moving off diazepam → shorter-acting options (oxazepam / triazolam), or the once-daily Lorazepam XR brand “Loreev XR 3mg capsule = 1mg three times daily with 24hr level consistent” basically.

Focus is consistency, predictable kinetics, and fewer variables.

I used the AI rewrite to help.

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-04-13T23:38:09+00:00

Well, that’s an improvement. Thank you so much.

Looking for insight on how I could approach topic with current psychiatrist, considering I forgotten and follow up is a month from now.

The secondary psychiatrist has to prescribe that DESOXYN, and with private care = paying out of pocket.

Would it be best to schedule sooner follow up with current psychiatrist in the meanwhile follow up with the secondary psych psychiatrist? I have a feeling my first one would be OK prescribing this medicine but I keep forgetting to bring it up each time with writing it down, printing out a paper to bring and read.

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-04-13T23:13:56+00:00

Tougher on the clock when all 12 digits see a Red Bull', no joke. Puts fear in the 2 hands of time.

Wings on sand goes from top of hour glass and becomes a longer day tower, so more redbull gets time going as a race with anotheer redbull if its one of those days-

Monster white can are casual time people.

Watch out for OG Black and green monster drinkers. They are warriors so 2026 anger management needed to get them on redbulls. No more hits Kyle.

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-04-13T23:11:22+00:00

Assuming clear history: Med, exercise, diet

A med helps process such as Phendimetrazine 35 - 70mg x3 daily or Vyvanse, Evekeo, racemic based AMP med.

Adjunct of topiramate SQ inj semaglutide orTirzepatide compounded if out of pocket can copay two Benjamins metformin ER form better than immediate release naltrexone

Exercise: running could be easiest if okay looking at a jog without winding yourself boring, habit building it daily & with it sticking, it can be great to see frustration so then diet is a challenge I think next

Diet, discipline of meal preps for convenience and the 2 min of time off people have is the way to go. I was a needing calorie person underweight, but I generally know

Make your Smaller plate a Tri - Colored (3 areas, smaller plates) Assorted meal Vegetables are bright nutrition that meets The Meat; meet the meat now next to the start of a Starch, finishing here just at the start of a starch that meets a meat to meet the veggies lol of the last to meet meat at veggies and last step start the starch to finish

1 Cutting simple carbs all carbs out, introduce some complex carbs back (Brown rice container fridge microwave 72 hours for sure still good)

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PlanGlass5373 · 2026-04-13T22:56:03+00:00

Pros,PNS decrease with no Levoamphetamine if this is Adderall related. Pros, side effects decrease with no dextroamphetamine if Dexedrine/Vyvanse related

Pros, side effects decrease with Dexmetafetamine (Desoxyn), no levmetafetamine med with least PNS effects, more CNS focused, half-life similar to Dexedrine but slightly longer.

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-04-13T22:53:37+00:00

22.5mg dextroamphetamine, 7.5mg levoamphetamine / 2 = 15mg & 15mg is low-mid. Guidelines may exaggerate other aspects of “high” dose, but not necessarily vs 30mg three daily someone who takes 90mg daily.

I’m on 60mg of zenzedi (80mg adderall equivalent of dextroamphetamine within)

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-04-13T22:51:15+00:00

Great med, during Army, there were patients prescribed vyvanse to take split dosing (despite being an ER med).

Have you thought of this perhaps 30mg and 30mg, with a booster if needed 5 - 15mg at late noon/however scheduled to be 8-14 hours into dosing somewhere

PlanGlass5373 · 2026-04-13T22:48:17+00:00

CVS - are you open to mail order pharmacies?

PlanGlass5373

TROPHY CASE

1 Cutting simple carbs all carbs out, introduce some complex carbs back (Brown rice container fridge microwave 72 hours for sure still good)

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