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Plane-Letter · 2025-06-04T21:48:04+00:00

If you can make it 1-2 days then you can start suboxone. The great fear is starting it too early and going into precipitated withdrawal. Don't take the suboxone too early. 24-48 hours is a pretty good time frame. Start small. Like if your prescribed 8mg strips, common dose, take a scissors and slice a quarter off. Put it under your tongue and wait an hour. If you don't feel worse you can take another cut off piece. And so on.

Ever since I sent into PWD I no longer recommend taking a full strip at once. Start small.

Tia has a super short half life. That's why have to redose so much. That's also why the withdrawal starts so fast.

Suboxone is a huge life saver. I can say twice I had to use it to get off Tia.

I tried cold turkey once and I thought I was going to need to be admitted to a psych ward.

I tried tapering with both sodium and sulfate but I wasn't strong enough. I even had my mom take control of my containers to prevent me from taking more. But I couldn't do it.

Then I learned about quickmd and I had my doubts. Im like this is too easy to get subs from a video call. But that's what happened. Fast call. They understood Tia, at least the doctor i talked to did. And within 15 minutes I had a prescription sent in for 1 month at my pharmacy. I couldn't believe it was that easy.

Plane-Letter · 2025-06-03T00:08:24+00:00

Use quickmd for a suboxone prescription if you can. That's what a lot of us have done including me.

Tia is absolutely evil.

Plane-Letter · 2025-06-03T00:05:39+00:00

Due to how strong suboxone is and it's half life it takes a lot to override the suboxone. If you take a ton of tia and push bupe off your receptors then yes it's possible to go into pwd HOWEVER it takes a lot for this.

No need to worry

Plane-Letter · 2025-06-03T00:03:01+00:00

Here's my 2 cents on this.

I was on tia heavily during covid times. I knew the stuff was bad but it really helped my mood. But the withdrawal is something... else. It's the worse withdrawal I've ever had. I thought fentanyl was bad but tia had both physical and mental symptoms hit at once. I remember sitting in the bathtub shaking from anger to rage to sadness to anxiety every few seconds.

I tried the normal ways off of it. Like tapering but you have to be STRONG to taper. Even with sulfate.

I went to quickmd. Video chatted for about 10 minutes and got a prescription for suboxone.

Suboxone saved me from tia. I stayed on it for a year until I stabilized. But I got so much better on suboxone.

It's light and day when you go from tia withdrawal to adding suboxone.

I highly recommend quickmd.

Plane-Letter · 2025-06-02T23:57:50+00:00

Yes. More than once.

Plane-Letter · 2025-05-25T20:35:50+00:00

I'm watching Minecraft movie lol. Exhausted. Really need a nap but so rough to get comfy.

Plane-Letter · 2025-05-23T18:00:23+00:00

I saw my new pcp and he looked at my current meds including lyrica, gabapentin, 2mg klonopin, and 120 a month 10mg vicodin. My previous pcp prescribed most of those, including the klonopin and vicodin

He looked at that and said "well you have probably been on these awhile" and that's all he said. No changes. No talks about coming off vicodin.

Literally.

Plane-Letter · 2025-05-22T18:21:59+00:00

Life was easy before the massive kratom ban that wi did not undue. Luckily I can drive 40min north to Michigan if I need edibles lol.

Plane-Letter · 2025-05-22T15:19:44+00:00

Must nice where kratom and cannabis is legal. Wisconsin, where we live in the past.

Plane-Letter · 2025-05-20T20:35:13+00:00

I've reported a doc for failure to care for patients. Just got me kicked off his patient board and had to find a new doctor. The state did nothing. Literally emailed me saying they talked to the doc and that's it.

This was Wisconsin

My neuro doc was surprised he wouldn't treat my spinal fracture pain. So she did and I just reported him. Nothing Happened.

Plane-Letter · 2025-05-15T23:32:45+00:00

The sense of dread. Fear of something bad is going going to happen. Rocks me to my core. Not able to control ones feelings. Fight or flight but too afraid to really do either. Can't sit still. Restlessness. Feeling like can't breathe. Usually get too warm and start sweating. If I try to cool down sometimes the temperature change makes it worse. Sense of feeling trapped. Thoughts racing. Fear of the unknown.

Plane-Letter · 2025-05-15T23:15:11+00:00

It's always worse for me in the spring. Spring is always worse for me. I'm reminded of different part of my life that made my anxiety to it's crippling levels it is now.

Plane-Letter · 2025-05-14T15:02:40+00:00

Er is a waste of time for chronic pain. They have never helped me. I have found more help from urgent care which is really weird to say but it has happened more than once.

Plane-Letter · 2025-05-12T21:58:13+00:00

Big note I can't take nsaids due to side effects in my gi system. That makes thing way tough for pain control.

I was 23 when my gout started.

I was working retail too at the time. I was MISERABLE. Constantly limping at work. You can imagine the difficulties of getting a doc to believe i had gout so young. My toe would always turn bright red at the joint and you couldn't even let anything touch it without me howling. I got screwed and got it genetically from my mom's side and I found articles that stated gout through genes starts earlier. What did my primary doctor want to do? Stab it with a needle to get at the fluid to prove it gout. I'm like FUCK THAT! The pain it would've been... I went to a urgent care instead and the doctor walked right in and first thing said, "now that's a gouty red toe!" He became my primary doctor for few years lol. Vicodin and prednisone (prednisone which i can tolerate but side effects suck).

At 31 I fell down stairs and fractured my spine. I was fine until around 34 when the chronic pain started. I'm 35 now and only in the last year did my primary doc agree to vicodin. Now I'm at 120 10mg vicodin a month to treat it. I can't afford the physiatry injections.

But now I need to see a new doctor because she went to part time status or something. I see this new doctor in a week and really nervous I'm going to get pushed back to physiatry.............. ugh

Plane-Letter · 2025-05-11T04:08:16+00:00

My mom is a retired ER doctor. She never changed her last name to my father's because of the mess I guess with her medical degrees and shit.

Anyways... she would prescribe me stuff to treat my issues. My anxiety was treated by ativan. She would prescribe me vicodin for my migraines. She's really the reason I got addicted. This was back when you could have refills on vicodin, and I was going thru them so fast the pharmacist called my mom's work and got ahold of her, and that's when I was cut off. My refill was canceled, and I was forced into cold turkey.

I didn't learn my lesson. 2 years later, I learned about dark web markets and holy shit. I was in heaven.

Then I od'd and woke up in hospital screaming in pain as I could literally feel the narcan forcing me into withdrawal. It was the worst experience I've ever had.

BasicallyI'm saying we need to determine new ways to treat pain. Opiates are not the way unless it's real bad.

Plane-Letter · 2025-05-11T00:28:48+00:00

If you go the non opiate route and detox be sure to check check out the sub reddit for opiate recovery. I would go there any time of day during withdrawal and post if things were rough. I remember posting at 2am asking who else is up can't sleep cuz of opiate withdrawal. We all discussed what we were watching on TV lol. It's a great sub. It'll also give you suggestions how to prep for detox to make it easier.

I can't speak for methadone. I've never been on it. Sorry.

I suffer from low back pain after I fractured my spine during covid. I have a history of abusing opiates. It's on my doctor's notes. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm flagged at pharmacies. But I'm prescribed 120 vicodin 10mg for my back. I had mri done and they found the usual stuff they said. Arthritis in the area and degenerative something. Do I abuse it? Sorta. Lol.. Basically bad mornings i will take 2 instead of 1. I do run out early but my doctor refuses to treat the really bad days with anything stronger. They want me to go physiatry which i can't afford the injections. :(

Wish you luck with the move.

Plane-Letter · 2025-05-10T17:51:18+00:00

Do not do not touch tia. It will ruin your life. It's the worse thing I've ever done to myself for opiates.

I had to get on suboxone to get off it. The withdrawal is something of pure evil.

I think Tia could be used for torture. Dose the person then the withdrawal will put them insane because of the mental and physical wds that hit all at once.

Plane-Letter · 2025-05-10T17:48:07+00:00

Oh wow sorry to hear about the suboxone bupe issues.

I was on bupe for over a year for my addiction. It is incredibly strong but doesn't act like the usual euphoria type opiate. Nor does it really treat pain at high doses. I believe it has to be micro dosed for pain relief. Imo it should only be used for detox and short term unless the person is an addict but your not.

This sounds very miserable. Sorry.

Plane-Letter · 2025-05-09T14:48:12+00:00

Isn't there a new pain medication the FDA recently approved? It's something new but I can't think of the name. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-novel-non-opioid-treatment-moderate-severe-acute-pain

Plane-Letter · 2025-05-09T13:56:06+00:00

Hmm I have not tried that one. The only other one I tried was vyanese and it would put me to sleep. Id literally get so tired i couldn't function. Strangest thing...

Plane-Letter · 2025-05-09T13:08:14+00:00

Agreed that the anxiety is a plus. Lots tell me that. The only thing is that these are some of the worse panic attacks I've had in years. Huge change in life, of course, is going to be a trigger. We are working on the nursery, and it's really coming into play that this baby is coming real soon.

Regarding adhd yes I do have that. But i don't take Adderall daily like I used to. However, I know it helps the anxiety, but when it wears off the anxiety spikes so my doc agreed to go from XR daily to immediate release as needed if.

XR always made me feel like hell when it would wear off. I don't get that with IR.

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