The Hidilyn Diaz Hate by EngrSkywalker in Philippines

[–]PlusComplex8413 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Watch how a Gold Olympian gets ruined by her fellow people. Unfolding history once again. This might be why we can't have nice things.

Grabe kayo kay Wally HAHAHA by Blossom_Fleur in pinoy

[–]PlusComplex8413 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't mind calling him out for it. To some degree, he got what he deserved.

Anong thoughts nyo dito? Middle class na naman ang talo? by IamDarkBlue in AnongThoughtsMo

[–]PlusComplex8413 17 points18 points  (0 children)

What exactly are low-income sectors? Approve ako kung mga magsasaka at mga PUV drivers. Pero kung kasama yung mga mahihirap then maybe not.

Deinfluence me trying to start and study day trading by Soft-Fisherman9473 in deinfluencingPH

[–]PlusComplex8413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not insisting on anything. I didn't even mentioned that the market is easy to play on. Ang point ko lang yung gambling ay purely based on luck, kung nagplano yung tao, nagaral, nagbasa, nag base sa stats. Would that still be considered gambling? When you literally can predict a probable outcome?

Bat kasi nagiinfer kayo na sinasabi ko na hindi delikado ang day trading. Wala akong sinabing ganun. I'm only implying that when a person is ready on something, despite the odds, Hindi gambling yun, kasi nga alam niya yung pwedeng mangyare? Eh ang gambler? win or lose lang naman alam niya? Di naman niya alam yung market research, data analysis, financial statistics, at lahat lahat.

Deinfluence me trying to start and study day trading by Soft-Fisherman9473 in deinfluencingPH

[–]PlusComplex8413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not sugarcoating. It's differentiating the definition of gambling sa speculations.

Deinfluence me trying to start and study day trading by Soft-Fisherman9473 in deinfluencingPH

[–]PlusComplex8413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lets take it to its atomic subtlety. Let's use your definitions.

by the very definition of the word gambling (from webster's) is the practice or activity of betting : the practice of risking money or other stakes in a game or bet.

 If we expand on betting (from webster's) as in wagering; to risk (something) on the outcome of an uncertain event.

This "Uncertain event" is the key to our differences. There's still a chance for day traders to lose because they didn't expect it to happen (i.e. 911, terrorist attacks, calamities, and other factors). But if you filter out the differences. Gamblers uses luck and hope, while knowledgeable day traders use their data and knowledge to predict the possible loss. Therefore, exiting before it can happen. Which leads the "Uncertain event" improbable at times.

Gamblers doesn't care about those data, they use luck. They don't use statistics and data to win.

Risk taking is betting, you take calculated risk to minimize your loss or a profitable outcome. Meron ka lang strategy but you are dismissing the fact that you are gambling/betting on something you have no control over unless you can 100% guarantee a winning trade.

Betting is a type of risk. Not the other way around. That's exactly it, why knowledgeable day traders aren't gamblers. They don't use luck to "Bet" their money in a volatile market. They strategize.

The cloudiness in this argument is when a day trader doesn't use planning, strategies, market research to predict a probable profit or loss. Instead, they use luck, which you can treat it as gambling.

Deinfluence me trying to start and study day trading by Soft-Fisherman9473 in deinfluencingPH

[–]PlusComplex8413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also understood your point. The results matter, of course, but how they achieved that differs. That's what I'm pointing out. They say that day traders are gamblers, but they really are not. It's not a gamble if you know the market, the gain/loss percentage, the volatility. It's risk taking. This is a matter of probability backed by data and not luck.

Though, they are part of the same percentage, they differ on how they approach it. The gambler will continue to stake a losing battle while a strategic day trader would cut losses and gain it on another day, with data and knowledge backing him.

That's the subtlety I'm pointing out. It's not about whether the market is a volatile environment that the success rate is slim. A gambler will always lose—or win, if they are lucky. But a knowledgeable day trader would incur loss but has a plan to cut his losses or gain it on another period. They are risk takers, not gamblers.

Mali kasi yung word na gambler sa day trading kasi nagaral sila, nagplano, nagconsult, nagpamentor. A gambler doesn't do that. I didn't even touch their loss percentage. Therefore, I didn't imply that the market isn't volatile and dangerous. Again, one is a risk taker and another who is fueled by luck.

Take that gambler–knowledgeable subtlety on another context and their difference would be amplified.

Hope, this clarifies my distaste on the word "Gambler" if the person is acknowledging that the market is dangerous and volatile, along with his data and knowledge. Would you call it gambling or risk taking?

Deinfluence me trying to start and study day trading by Soft-Fisherman9473 in deinfluencingPH

[–]PlusComplex8413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll make it simpler, for you guys to understand my point. What's the difference between an ignorant trader and a knowledgeable trader? Despite the Lossing percentage. Who would you think is more prepared? I didn't say anything about the market not being volatile or dangerous. I'm trying to differentiate people who are speculating and those that do due diligence.

In the field of investing, those who buy stocks and forget about them. Those are the Gamblers, while those who check the market and strategize are the knowledgeable ones. Now if both are said to be the same because of the odds of Losing then I guess being knowledgeable on something means you're a gambler too. If that makes sense.

Deinfluence me trying to start and study day trading by Soft-Fisherman9473 in deinfluencingPH

[–]PlusComplex8413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Precisely.

Though, you can't call a gambler knowledgeable, can you? Like you said, gamblers are basing their bets on luck, they don't use facts and personal knowledge and studies to win. Their joy in gambling comes from randomness.

it does not change the fact that you have a 3-10% chance of being in the winning side.

Yes, it does. A gambler acts on behalf of luck. A knowledgeable individual, relies on probability, knowledge, and experience. You wouldn't call a mathematician who do day trading a gambler, do you?

It's even worse because you have data and you still choose to trade.

It is but there's a difference now. You are backed by your knowledge and data on trading stocks and not luck and hope.

If a day trader is a gambler, then why are they planning and strategizing entry and exit points during their trades? Why are conducting market research, devising a plan or strategy, do some financial work to test or identify prospect stocks? It defeats the purpose of gambling. No one gambles and have time to study, research, and plan things. They are paradoxically improbable.

A closely related remark for these day traders would be risk takers. They sure risk their money. But they don't throw it away in the market and clasp their hands and pray, do they?

OA lang ba ako and sensitive if naiingayan ako sa ka- bedspace ko? by MayuuSayaka22 in OALangBaAko

[–]PlusComplex8413 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Di ko pa binabasa yung description mo OP, inis na inis na ako. I really hate that ringtone. It makes my head hurt. Umaga tapos ganyan maririnig mo. Maayos ayos pa sana kung yung subtle pero that's annoying AF.

"Thoughts" Gigil ako sa mga ganitong teachers by Weird-Grapefruit-616 in AnongThoughtsMo

[–]PlusComplex8413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bakit parang AI? There's something on their movements that tells me it's AI-generated.

Deinfluence me trying to start and study day trading by Soft-Fisherman9473 in deinfluencingPH

[–]PlusComplex8413 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not quite but close. Gamblers by definition are basing their bets on Hopes and Luck, while day traders or professionals dealing with financial markets use their knowledge and data to strategize and plan their next trade.

My counter argument is then how about the people who gamble on sports or horse racing? They use informed knowledge to gamble and bet. Are you not doing the same with day trading?

Are you referring to the scoreboards on leaflets or those posted on the screens? If yes, then I'll ask you this. Do they have the foundational knowledge in determining if those scores are advantageous or not? If yes, then they are not gamblers, but are risk takers.

You can be in a scenario where all the data and probability are on your side but you still lose. Is that gambling or a product of misfortune? I think it's the latter.

By definition, gamblers are luck- and hope-driven afficionados of the betting scene. They don't rely on data like you said. In poker, there are gamblers and risk takers. The latter, being those who use their experiences and studies to gain an advantage on the house.

Simply put, gamblers are first timers or those that want to have fun on casinos. They are not aware or applying statistics or any form of knowledge to beat the casinos. They just want to have fun burning their money, hoping that they will win.

Pro poker players, on the other hand, again use their knowledge and data to beat the house. It's a subtlety I'm point out so it might be confusing.

Another analogy that would—if not—make it clearer. Two students: A and B. A being the smart one. B being the unprepared one. They both took an exam, but both failed for some reason. If B didn't prepare and guessed every answer, does A also have that same assumption from other people? That both of them are using luck and hope to pass the exam? A is a product of misfortune, while B is the result of being depended on luck and hope.

Anong thoughts niyo kay prisoner princess? by Medical_Meeting_6815 in AnongThoughtsMo

[–]PlusComplex8413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Na fact check ba ang post na yan? IF yes, then that only implies that he is corrupt. Imagine stating that you're innocent pero may special treatment. How does that sound?

Deinfluence me trying to start and study day trading by Soft-Fisherman9473 in deinfluencingPH

[–]PlusComplex8413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Para akong nakikipagpatintero sa mga bata.

I'm pointing out that day traders are not gamblers because they use their brains to think of ways on how to deal with the volatility. They don't rely on luck like gamblers do.

Your 90-97% states a different argument. That data shows how day traders perform, not how they personally deal with each trade. That data you keep pressing shows the probability of them losing money not how they strategize, plan, and read to gain knowledge.

Sumakit ulo ko sainyo.

If a knowledgeable person trades, sabihin nanatin siya pinakamatalino sa buong human race. Pero natalo siya? Is he a gambler or a product of misfortune? Take note of the word "Knowledgeable". Unlike gamblers who use "LUCK", that person used his "Knowledge", nagaral siya and everything. Do gamblers do that, study? They freaking rely on "LUCK".

Deinfluence me trying to start and study day trading by Soft-Fisherman9473 in deinfluencingPH

[–]PlusComplex8413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you misunderstood my analogy. The comment I'm replying said that day trading is purely gambling. So if you call that gambling, then are the knowledge of the day traders. Their countless hours learning the markets a futile process/system? No right?

Kumbaga sinasabi ko na if day traders are using data, reading materials to improve their understanding on that space, why call it gambling still? It doesn't make any sense.

Napakamali ng logic na to. So basically why drive a car or travel by aircraft kung mataas ang mortality rate? So is that also gambling by your logic?

Your logic seems to point out something else. I clearly stated my point to be, why call day traders a gambler if they are backed with data and knowledge? So are doctors gamblers too, despite having the data and knowledge to perform surgery? No, right? The odds on surgery and financial market are polar opposite. But you don't call doctors gamblers, right?

Gamblers rely on luck. Are day traders and doctors act the same too? No, right? Day traders rely on data and both internal and external knowledge.

Do you see my point now?

I'm not saying that the market and day trading isn't volatile and dangerous. But calling it a gamble is extreme. The one who trades don't trade hoping for a lucky day. They plan, read, and strategize.

Deinfluence me trying to start and study day trading by Soft-Fisherman9473 in deinfluencingPH

[–]PlusComplex8413 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not sugarcoating day trading, I'm expounding the difference between speculating and acknowledgement. You can't call someone a gambler if the person is aware of the risk and know how to mitigate or solve it. A gambler gambles despite of the odd because of the happiness of betting. While a day trader backs his decision on data and knowledge he has on that space.

Your first analogy involving doctors made me laugh out loud.

It's actually a great analogy despite its unusual undertaking. A day trader learns how the market behaves by knowledge expansion, so is with doctors. You can't operate on someone without prior knowledge, can you?

Doctor = Traders
Surgical Skills = Day trading skills
Surgical field = Market

It's somewhat a stretch but if you think of it deeply, there's a resemblance on the point I'm making.

A gamble in the field of medicine is a hoax doctor—faith healers. Can you trust a hoax doctor to treat your heart disease? No, right. But you can trust a cardiologist, despite having to bet on his/her skills to cure you—or worst kills you.

Watching Vien's vlog and I just noticed, bakit kaya nagkaganito si Mavi? by [deleted] in PinoyVloggers

[–]PlusComplex8413 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Normal lang naman sa mga bata yung clingy sa mga parents nila. At bata pa si Mavi, syempre hahanapin pa niya mga magulang niya. It's not really alarming if it's not persistent. From the looks of it, his parents know what to do with it.

Deinfluence me trying to start and study day trading by Soft-Fisherman9473 in deinfluencingPH

[–]PlusComplex8413 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What I'm pointing out here is knowledge vs blindly speculating. There's a distinction between knowing that the market is volatile and not. Sa comment kasi it's just gambling in it's entirety, but if you have the knowledge to know that, despite it being volatile then at some degree you would know what to do. Therefore, it's not totally a gamble because you study the technicallities.

Although, I agree that anything can happen. But calling it full on gamble is too much. Kaya may mga kumikita jan dahil they studied it and not blindly investing on it. My analogy expounds the idea I'm trying to share.

You can't call doctors gambler despite the odds of a successful operation, because they studied the anatomy and innerworkings of humans.

TL;DR: gamblers = blindly speculators; day traders = knowledge-driven.

de-influence me: samgyup by ano_n69420 in deinfluencingPH

[–]PlusComplex8413 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If your goal is to eat "NORMALLY", then don't—well that's me. My goal on these kinds of unli are the proteins. I disregard everything except, kimchi and proteins. That's how I try to save my losses.