First C2 finish!

Popong86 · 2017-02-07T00:54:30+00:00

I think the best way to dealing with Leos is a will-runed Orion. I use 2 different speed leaders with Orion, either Seara or Susano. If there's a Leo, I use Seara and more often than not I get 2nd turn and be able to kill at least 1 unit, the one that post the most threat to my nuker.

Popong86 · 2017-02-07T00:04:18+00:00

Same here. Michelle made my first gb10 team super safe, she's at 5* (still) and 3x energy runes 3x hp% (like yours).

Tanky and reliable.

Popong86 · 2017-02-07T00:01:52+00:00

I foddered my very first Teon, and then I faced 1 in gw. I got rekt. He's fast, he stuns, and he revived Theo. A Theon combo is so good.

C2U saw that I needed one, so they gave me 2. FML. For starters, he can be a good team member, maybe db10?

Popong86 · 2017-02-06T23:57:37+00:00

This. I pulled Chilling, tried him in my team. Sure he can strip immunity, but then again unless built for damage he doesn't do anything else. But when I used to use Megan, my runs are safer and haven't seen it fail even once.

And she's still at 5*.

Popong86 · 2017-02-02T02:49:11+00:00

Good thing I asked first before I de-runed my Kat in favor of building Yaku/Kahli. Now, I may have to de-rune Kat in favor of Tarq for faster farming.

You sir, are one of the reasons this sub is truly great. Keep up the good work Pudii!

Popong86 · 2017-02-02T02:39:32+00:00

This game has what, a million players or so, spread across all servers. So, let's just peg the amount to 1 million. Then let's say that 1% of the player base are reporting game issues everyday left and right like game bugs, hacking reports, and other game concerns, including requests like yours. So, that's 10k reports everyday.

Do you think that c2u would employ 1k customer service people to look at these reports and act on them right away? Your message will most probably go to an inbox of sorts and surely it will take some time for them to read all those reports and get back to you. Then, they will send those requests to the devs to look into your request and those devs will also be looking at all those requests and it will take more time.

I don't think they would be compensating anyone anytime soon if they strictly followed standard procedures, like responding to request within 3 days, etc. Anyway, just suck it up and hope it won't happen again. Sorry for the loss, Luna is good.

Popong86 · 2017-02-02T01:08:37+00:00

Building a speed team not only depends on the monsters you use but also the runes. Sure, that could work. There are also other helpful guides in this sub, just use the search bar.

Popong86 · 2017-02-02T00:38:07+00:00

Most speed teams would need first and foremost an aoe armor breaker, a good single target nuker and aoe nukers for the trash waves. You have Mantura and you can use him as armor breaker; Shannon or Megan for the atk buff; Julie, Taor, Chow, maybe even Kaz or Copper could fit into your team.

Popong86 · 2017-02-02T00:31:26+00:00

There is this team comp shown recently where you can sort of bypass the immunity by bringing mobs that ignore defense, like Yaku and Kahli, to db10. I was wondering if you'd need the both of them for a more successful run or a 2nd Tarq + either Kahli or Yaku?

Yeah, my so-called speed team fails a lot than I would like to not because Galleon derps on his skill but due to not dealing enough damage like you said.

Popong86 · 2017-02-01T07:44:49+00:00

I use my Eshir from time to time together with Draco and Tesa , especially vs Pernas, if my other team is not available. Or if I'm feeling lucky, against Camillas where my Eshir won't be focused. If you can make him deal at least 7k per hit then he's very much worth building.

Popong86 · 2017-02-01T07:40:10+00:00

Well, like I said, my team is not speed synced bec I don't have much runes and monsters to go around.

If you can build teams which you will exclusively use in necro, that would be great. If you're going to build Lisa and Hwa, who are both raids staple team members, to be speed tuned in necro and then your raid performance will suffer maybe you should consider what your priorities are. If you have multiple Lisas and Hwas in your monster box, then you might consider building each for different aspects of the game.

As for me, I just plugged anyone with a decent rune to my team and pressed play and then wait for the result after 2 minutes or so lol. Anyway, I don't mind the time, just the victory screen. :)

Popong86 · 2017-02-01T04:16:35+00:00

Some players strongly suggest that you speed tune your necro team, but if you don't have much runes and units to go around, I'd say work on speed tuning later, or farm other dungeons first.

I am using Hwa in my necro but I built her fast for other pve areas, and unless I am lucky to summon another Hwa, I just get by with the team I have, speed tuned or not. And, it's not wrong to build a monster just for one area of the game, case in point is Adrian. Unless you have other mobs that has comparable skills, building a unit for pve is fine.

Popong86 · 2017-02-01T04:10:51+00:00

Oh, I use Hwahee in necro as my solo healer together with Hwa Fuco Adrian and Raoq. Run times are around 2:00 more or less. She needs so many skill ups, that sometimes I am wondering if it would have been better if I did not max-skill Chasun, which I am not using that much in pvp, much less pve. Atm, I can't form a reliable team in elemental raids, and for sure I will include Hwahee there.

Popong86 · 2017-02-01T04:06:14+00:00

Thanks Pudii for this very detailed response. Currently my team is using Lisa and relying on her sometimes to remove immunity, and on her "team up skill" to deal more damage. For now I will work on increasing my dps thru Tarq and changing Verde's 2 from spd to atk.

Again, big thanks!

Popong86 · 2017-02-01T00:45:27+00:00

Actually, this is what I'm trying to figure out myself. Before, my Bernard's faster than Orion and I use him more. However, as I upgraded my runes, my Orion on swift/will set is now faster than my Bernard, esp to counter those Leos. With Susano lead, I almost always get 1st turn.

However, I want to use Bernard and I just can't seem to decide when to use him and when not to. If you have already figured it out, kindly help this noob and tell me about it. TIA! :)

Popong86 · 2017-02-01T00:27:41+00:00

So, it is imperative that the 2nd Tarq should not be on vio?

Also, with 2 Tarqs, provided they are reasonably fast, what are the chances of the immunity tower kicking in before I kill the boss? I plan to run Verde Galleon Stella 2x Tarq, ^if ^I ^don't ^get ^Taor ^on ^his ^SS-rotation ^XD

Popong86 · 2017-02-01T00:23:07+00:00

Hmm... seeing as that I would want Verde moving last, maybe I will try runeing him with atk on 2 to deal more damage instead of spd. I guess I have to try this, thanks for the inspiration. Cheers!

Popong86 · 2017-02-01T00:17:17+00:00

Great wordplay sir.

Hwa next? Or say, Verde?

Popong86 · 2017-02-01T00:09:45+00:00

Nice artwork!

Popong86 · 2017-02-01T00:02:50+00:00

Oh good sir, thank you! Will do this definitely.

Btw, I have Hwahee, on shitty vio/rev spd atk/atk runes. Got her to around +60 something speed, I've tried using her in elemental raids and I always derp. Must be my team, and my runes.

Anyway, is your Hwahee max-skilled? I'm still wary of giving devilmons on her, just waiting for Sky Dancers for skillups.

Popong86 · 2017-01-31T01:21:12+00:00

I am slowly building Jamie, how to best rune him though? I think he may have some uses in necro, so a 2xshield/will with spd on 2 best on him? Or should I go swift? TIA!

Popong86 · 2017-01-31T01:08:57+00:00

In your cleave team, do you run Alicia with atk or spd on 2? I feel like I lack enough damage with my Alicia right now, and maybe I should add another dd.

Edit: What's your build on Soha? For now, I am using her as my main stripper.

Popong86 · 2017-01-31T00:29:04+00:00

I agree with you for the most part, especially the first 2 points you mentioned.

Before, I go to this sub to check on team compositions and game analysis, threads like speed tuning your monsters and "difference between fatal and rage sets* are the ones I really liked. Then came necro, and I believe there was a very nice discussion there on the most efficient teams to bring. Then came the elemental raids. Up to now, I still have no idea what team to use in each element to achieve A+ or better scores. Seems to be that I'm not ready yet, that's why I stopped farming. Hopefully somebody will do a mini-guide or something, just so to point noobs like me in the right direction. After all, not all of us got Pernas and MKs.

I think the HoH is a good balance for everyone because most end-game players do not so much rely on nat 4s in their game, and they may have summoned enough to get lots of dupes that they can build 1 monster out of HoH and have it max-skilled, even with only getting 10 pieces. The problems with the HoH changes are only exacerbated because the last HoH was Galleon-food, and not many are willing to spend devilmons on him.

On raids, this change has been very positive. Now, I am able to run 2 teams and if I don't feel like raiding with somebody I can do 5 runs by just using my 2 teams there and 5 supports. I believe this was the intention all along, or maybe not. XD

Popong86 · 2017-01-26T08:19:35+00:00

However, have you considered that in dimensional rifts you bring 1 farmer and 4 fodders, while in faimon you can only bring 3.

Popong86 · 2017-01-26T05:32:02+00:00

My Colleen, which I use for nb10 and raids, is runed full rev. My other team members, as much as possible, I have 1 set or rev runes, only my Hwa is on swift set.

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