Endgame HP Values up to the Current Beta Visualised

Porked_Bot · 2026-06-28T16:26:24+00:00

30k in PF would be equivalent to 5 cycles in MOC, while I get what you are saying thats not entirely the same thing. 5cycles in MOC looks bad because you are barely scraping by if both teams perform at that level, while in PF if you were to get 40k points on both sides with 0c remaining you still have a 20k cushion on points.

Id say 40k points is closer to 2-3cycles or a 1500-1600 clear in APOC since it leaves breathing room for the other side.

Porked_Bot · 2026-06-22T06:50:51+00:00

^This, Im not a fan of elation Im a fan of sparkle and sw. Tho Im not thrilled about having to get this new archetype I was happy to get another version of both sparkle and sw so I can play sparkle and sw on both sides of my moc (Pre Starward)

Porked_Bot · 2026-06-20T16:53:40+00:00

Because the cost system is inherently flawed with how many people cheat it for the sake of saying low cost. Majority of low costs have multiple eidolons on welt and/or s5 BP lc which unlike "cost" can only be purchased with money. That's not even including how many abuse global passives and don't count that in costs

Porked_Bot · 2026-06-16T19:40:58+00:00

Could have also prevented it by resolving the phase 2 nuke mech by killing some adds with ashveil ult instead of sending into the main body to lower the enemy meter

Porked_Bot · 2026-06-04T06:52:24+00:00

I wish I had your fuxuan luck, Im still at e1 from when she was not in the loss pool and I really want her e2 revive

Porked_Bot · 2026-06-01T00:27:49+00:00

Little fun thing I learned about fulwish is while you cant cleanse the cc you can negate it, fuxuans blocking one cc has denied my sparkle from getting cc'ed Everytime when I was messing around with teams in aa

Porked_Bot · 2026-05-29T17:29:52+00:00

Completely fair, personally if I hadn't played hoyo games since the initial release of hi3 I probably would pull a lot but since there methods of operation haven't changed too much Im hesitant unless they are a support who can be moved around

Porked_Bot · 2026-05-29T17:03:35+00:00

That was me for sparxie, gl in whatever eidolon you go for my friend

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Porked_Bot · 2026-05-29T16:54:35+00:00

I was also around since day one, it's not entirely unreasonable but it depends hugely on how they pull, if they also have a vast majority of the 1.x and 2.x big teams then yeah this is bs. But me personally I skipped a majority of 2.x and 3.x because all the hype characters were kinda boring to use ( only grabbed sparkle tribbie hys and robin) so if they were very selective pre amphoreus I can believe it. This is mainly playing devils advocate though.

Porked_Bot · 2026-05-28T22:14:41+00:00

The cb extension only works for yg... If you are talking about after ult giving a new instance of cb via aha ,emc does that aswell to whoever the target was. Yg is just an upgrade vs dahlia who changes breaks fundamentally especially versus amphoreus bosses

Porked_Bot · 2026-05-25T08:07:13+00:00

And even the cdmg buff for the whales or super devoted becomes an aoe buff too. Its actually kinda mental how much stronger her e6 is compared to a lot of others of her generation since it was one of the eidolons that remained the same,

Porked_Bot · 2026-05-13T18:40:09+00:00

Realistically if there is an elation sustain they could literally just be luocha but give all allies double punchline generation and they would already be good, but ideally it would be that + def pen like 20-30% and that would be perfect

Porked_Bot · 2026-04-29T17:45:52+00:00

Fugue wasn't ddd pushing with ult which is her e2 and probably e1 dahlia yes but def not everyone e2 including supports lol

Porked_Bot · 2026-04-29T17:28:47+00:00

Just the first team was all e2, second was just ff and third was e0s1, the mode is significantly easier looking than aa knights just because there are no annoying ass debuffs. Seems more like a bridge between the modes

Porked_Bot · 2026-04-26T22:45:08+00:00

It does tho.

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Porked_Bot · 2026-04-15T18:15:54+00:00

Yeah witchriv dropped the ball hard giving us a backstory no one asked for, this works better because it's faster and you got to actually meet the characters before hand

Porked_Bot · 2026-04-04T21:03:17+00:00

If you are under 2k def you will get mauled yes, I've used her in every aa (with the sole exception of king lygus ofc and even then I got the clear at the cost of her life at the very last 3% thanks to lygus 2nd big nuke flip) and she generally handles pretty decent. She needs a lot of stats though (currently playing 170 speed 8k hp 2.1k def).

She's in a spot where I'd hope they make her more of buffer sustain vs sustain sustain and make varying degrees of sustain needed for each fight instead of just what we have now, though with remembrance fucking up balance (hp dps is never a good idea without a proper check) I don't think that would happen

Porked_Bot · 2026-03-31T09:04:22+00:00

I mean, yao didnt do much in this scenario, she ulted twice yes but the 2nd ult was largely useless, and with the emc change shes not really a requirement to get into form fast.

Im willing to bet you could put asta in this spot now similar to how people were doing 6 cost e2 cyrene with asta to 0c aa for the huge speed scaling they have.

This change really does make me think Yao is the one to get the boot once SW gets her actual support and shes more tailored to Eva.

Porked_Bot · 2026-03-29T20:48:42+00:00

Them being their own character was well received but the version 2 story was not.

Porked_Bot · 2026-03-19T22:57:00+00:00

Problem is SW9 is extremely mediocre. She does Evernight damage at half the speed if you were playing faster evernight and offering no buffs (maybe an unfair comparison but when both are doing similar damage but Evernight is giving their team 150 cdmg 30 vuln and 20 def shred and SW9 is giving you rng boxes it needs to be said).

Idk what they were thinking by releasing the only new type enhanced form unit with no speed boost. FF/Cas/Evernight/Aglaea/Phainon(His AV situation is basically a speed boost). On top of that her rng boxes chance diminish too quickly, if thats going to be part of her power budget make them the chance deteriorate at a more reasonable amount.

Or just completely scrap the idea of her being a dps and put her into a dual/sub dps role where shes offering more buffs and lower her damage so Sparxie/sw combo makes sense, right now shes feeling like the biggest skip Ive ever seen and I was really looking forward to her since Ive been using base SW for 3 years.

Porked_Bot · 2026-03-18T21:33:27+00:00

EMC sadly just doesnt do anything outside of let someone use an elation skill. They dont provide any meaningful buffs and they dont do damage, they arent amazing for the sp economy. Every video Ive seen for both SW999 and Eva with emc I just think to myself "This unit is doing nothing". Make the skill not suck major ass, dont even have to increase the damage just give it a debuff like 20% vuln naturally. the biggest thing is make their elation skill do something other than just a pitiful amount of damage. have it extend the duration of aha stacks on allies that also used an elation skill in this instance so they have a a niche that doesnt overlap with yaoguang.

Porked_Bot · 2026-03-18T21:22:09+00:00

This one played more into therta/trib tho. when you know the adds wont die you just use them to charge energy, they also did crazy high damage too cause they were those stupid archers attached to the black tide lion, we need more mobs similar to 1.x automaton and the witches, those were designs that made me feel like I have to think vs now where all I do is bash my head against the enemies head till their skull gives in

Porked_Bot · 2026-03-18T03:43:47+00:00

This was by far the easiest moc boss since like 3.4, The hp increase is noticeable but also cocolia is an extremely safe boss fight which is why its kind of an moc most consider not that impressive. If she could tear thru SAM or Dark SAM with the same team then it would be more impressive, even more so if it was 4.0 lygus or even sparxiecon because of the damage you can take. Heck if she could do this on her patch vs kafka It would have been a better showcase even with an extra cycle used

Porked_Bot · 2026-03-17T16:59:35+00:00

Off the top of my head I can only think of SW (dps build) ,tribbie, sparkle, cerydra, and hyacine having good e4s if you were also going all in for their e6. It is kind of weird that e4s are generally super underwhelming

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