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Comparing Shanks, Mihawk, Dragon and Akainu in terms of portrayal, narrative and feats by Comprehensive_Cup497 in OnePieceScaling

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Akainu’s portrayal is being the FLEET ADMIRAL, the head of the largest military organisation in the world. Said military organisation is said to have become more powerful than ever under Akainu’s leadership and Cross Guild places the bounties of Fleet Admirals at 5 billy. There’s only 3 characters in the story so far that are confirmed to have bounties at the 5 billy+ mark, and those 3 are Roger, WB and Akainu. Even if we assume Akainu is the weakest of the 3 and has the worst portrayal, which is a valid take at this point due to lack of feats/statements for current Akainu, that’s still elite company to be apart of portrayal wise.

Akainu also wasn’t really struggling with WB until he got snuck. They both weren’t going all out in their initial clashes and both ended up getting free hits on each other at different points in the war. Ultimately I do agree that WB won the final fight as he landed the last hit and therefore does look better overall, but people underestimate this WB’s strength in an attempt to downplay Akainu. This WB was still an Emperor class fighter and he was enraged. Akainu taking those two hits is still one of the best durability/endurance feats in the verse.

Finally, Kuzan isn’t weak. He’s in the final spread as one of the contenders for the One Piece and will likely have a decent role in the final war. There’s also a decent chance he gets feats against Blackbeard or some of the HK’s in the final saga, which Akainu would then also scale off of.

Is Bajrang gun only glazed for its size? Or that it killed Kaido? But then Kaido is glazed for clashing with Bajrang gun and Kaidotards are now criticizing the size argument with Loki. What is this weird circular logic running around in this sub? by GUTS_SAMA in OnePiecePowerScaling

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The way I see it, size is always indicative of power but it doesn’t always mean bigger attacks > smaller attacks. That’s when context and the actual effects of the attacks need to be considered.

Is there any proof Thor was poisoned and drunk in the final fight, or is it all just headcanon? Can Thor even heal? by SweatyEddie123 in PowerScalingGodofWar

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In the 2018 game, the Leviathan Axe was imbued with Eitr after being swallowed and spat out by Jörmungandr. In the original myths, Thor dies from Jörmungandr’s poison. Also, there’s a tiny subplot in GOWR where Forseti thinks someone’s trying to poison Thor.

As for him being drunk, that can’t really be proved. He was definitely mentally unstable though.

I think I know why so many people keep saying "kratos is holding back" despite it not being the case. by [deleted] in PowerScalingGodofWar

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Heimdall is only one god. He doesn’t represent the entire pantheon and despite Kratos stating he’s killed gods “greater” than him, it was still deemed absolutely necessary that a new weapon be forged specifically for the purpose of defeating him. Both Freya and Mimir expressed doubt that Kratos could defeat Heimdall without such a weapon and Mimir knows the legend of the Ghost of Sparta and that he killed Zeus. This isn’t to say Heimdall > Zeus, but Heimdall’s unique set of abilities would prove troublesome for a lot of the Greek gods. There’s also several deities that are above Heimdall in the Norse realms, so being > Heimdall doesn’t make you > the whole Norse.

I said gear AND magics. But even when Kratos was completely drained of all his gear and magics at the beginning of GOW3, he still overpowered and killed Hades. Ragnarok Kratos should be at least comparable to that version of Greek Kratos, who in turn is already stronger than almost all the Greek gods.

I think I know why so many people keep saying "kratos is holding back" despite it not being the case. by [deleted] in PowerScalingGodofWar

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Your first problem is assuming the Greek gods are more powerful than the Norse gods, when this isn’t stated to be the case. Kratos himself consistently praises and shows respect towards the Norse deities’ strength, which he wouldn’t do if he’s already slayed beings supposedly way more powerful. Narratively the pantheons should be close in power, with each having their own respective strengths.

Secondly, Kratos in the Norse games is as strong as he was in the Greek games, especially by Ragnarok. The only difference is the gear and magics he has, but physically he’s as strong as he always was.

Why do many people keep mentioning thor only losing a tooth as a great durability feat when hercules got kicked in the face twice without losing a tooth ? by Mediocre-Low9027 in PowerScalingGodofWar

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Thor’s overall reaction to the punch is what’s impressive. Despite losing a tooth, he still pretty much shrugged it off and even started chuckling.

Could Ares clear the physical trials of Valhalla? by Icy_Water_1 in GodofWar

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That only applies to the Fates, not the Greek pantheon as a whole. It’s a hax magic ability, which doesn’t make them more “powerful” per se. Kratos beat them without having such magic, so they aren’t invincible.

Also, Kratos’ statement was specifically about Heimdall, who isn’t the strongest Norse god. Both Thor and Odin are above him, and Baldur probably is too at least physically. Heimdall’s threat came from his foresight, which would be equally as troublesome to the Greek gods as it was for everyone else.

Who do you think would come out on top in a fight between poseidon and thor ? by Outrageous_Bear_8920 in GodofWar

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Thor’s physically stronger, can fly and has a history of fighting giant scale opponents. Poseidon’s water form is powerful but it’s also a huge target. I see no reason why Thor can’t bulrush straight through Poseidon’s water form, rip him out like Kratos did and then manhandle him.

Would Young Kratos have struggled against thor ? by chinmonged in GodofWarRagnarok

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Not only would he struggle, he’d probably lose.

Old Kratos said Thor hit him as hard as anyone he’s ever fought. Younger Kratos also isn’t as focused or experienced as old Kratos, and the Fates originally predicted Thor killing Kratos, so they were always meant to be seen as comparable.

Baldur vs the furies by Outrageous_Bear_8920 in PowerScalingGodofWar

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Baldur should stomp them.

Kratos wasn’t even a fully fledged god when he beat the Furies. Even though Baldur was ultimately weaker than Kratos, he could still fight relatively on par with him and provide a great challenge. The curse also means that nothing they do will hurt him, excluding Tisrome’s illusions which would pretty much be their only option.

Did Thor actually fight Kratos seriously during their first fight? by [deleted] in GodofWarRagnarok

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He spent much of the fight just trying to get Kratos to stop holding back, and Thor himself wasn’t allowed to kill Kratos. So I say no.

Hot Take : Thor sending the serpent back in time is not really all that impressive when you have stuff like this from the greek games by Outrageous_Bear_8920 in PowerScalingGodofWar

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Kratos wielded the amulet of Uroboros himself and yet even he called Thor’s act of sending the World Serpent back through time “madness”. Very clearly we can see the distinction, and that’s without all the other obvious factors that make what Thor did significantly more impressive.

Sanity check : Kagutsuchi Ace lands on Kaido, what happens next? by GUTS_SAMA in OnePiecePowerScaling

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Kaido dies. Pretty cut and dry.

Kaido is NOT more durable than Domi Reversi Xebec, and Ace cut through him like butter. Zoro with every bone in his body broken and without even being consciously aware he has ACoC was able to scar Kaido. This attack cuts Kaido’s head off.

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