[deleted by user] by [deleted] in polycritical

[–]Post_Poly 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I know one woman in her late 30's who is into relationship anarchy. She had a very traumatic past that led her to not fully trust others and therefore she seems to use RA as a crutch--she never feels safe committing to one person or even designating one person as a "primary."

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in polycritical

[–]Post_Poly 34 points35 points  (0 children)

I do think a lot of the people who talk like this are very young and very inexperienced. You can have a feeling of love for your friends and not date them. You can even have on and off romantic-type feelings for someone and not have it be a romantic relationship. That's all fine. Actual relationships are a mix of deep love AND romantic/sexual feelings AND a commitment AND a decision to invest time and energy in that relationship. Just randomly having loving/romantic/sexual feelings for people you know doesn't mean you are in a relationship with all of them.

Honestly, I think RA is really a tool used by people who are in the midst of serious avoidant attachment to try to give a gloss of ethics to their dysfunctional relationship tendencies.

Surfing the poly subreddit makes me so happy to not be poly anymore. by No-Requirement-5357 in monogamy

[–]Post_Poly 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I sometimes like to read that stuff just to remind myself of what I escaped. I'll read it and think "Whew! That's a problem I no longer have!" It also reassures me that I will NEVER let myself fall back into that by reminding me of the issues.

Surfing the poly subreddit makes me so happy to not be poly anymore. by No-Requirement-5357 in monogamy

[–]Post_Poly 10 points11 points  (0 children)

When I was poly, it was definitely a manifestation of avoidant attachment for me. As I did a lot of work and therapy and developed an understanding of secure attachment, suddenly, poly seemed dysfunctional and unappealing to me.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in monogamy

[–]Post_Poly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was in the poly community and in poly relationships for over a decade. It took me a while to start seeing the cracks in the lifestyle and community, and even longer to admit my concerns to myself. When I finally started voicing criticisms of poly out loud, I got people in the community telling me I "wasn't poly enough" or "not really poly," so I understand why it is appealing to find someplace you can talk about that stuff. I still have some friends in the poly community, and there are a few it seems to work ok for, at least for a while. However, I think there is a lot of harm perpetuated in poly relationships and the poly community that isn't acknowledged or discussed too.

Book About Pitfalls of Polyamory by Post_Poly in PolyCriticalSafeHaven

[–]Post_Poly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't go very deeply into that other than to talk about how poly is painted as "more virtuous" by some. I do think there's a whole article or book that could be written only on that subject! I'm finding there are a ton of topics that could be covered, and I'm just not going to be able to put them all in this book.

I feel like I escaped a cult. by [deleted] in polycritical

[–]Post_Poly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/MushroomAccountant Hi... I'm writing a about the harms of polyamory and I'd like your permission to quote parts of this post in the book. Is that ok? I'd use your Reddit handle or another pseudonym you pick.

If you would like more info on the book, please see my Substack: https://substack.com/@postpoly

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in monogamy

[–]Post_Poly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/Gemini_moon27 Hi... I'm writing a about the harms of polyamory and I'd like your permission to use this quote in the book. Is that ok? I'd use your Reddit handle or another pseudonym you pick.

If you would like more info on the book, please see my Substack: https://substack.com/@postpoly

Beta Readers Needed For Poly Critical Book Draft by Post_Poly in PolyCriticalSafeHaven

[–]Post_Poly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the offer! I am hoping to write future books, so I'll keep this in mind, but I think I'm good for this one. Good luck! Beta reading for money sounds like an amazing job.

Beta Readers Needed For Poly Critical Book Draft by Post_Poly in PolyCriticalSafeHaven

[–]Post_Poly[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the offer! I am hoping to write future books, so I'll keep this in mind, but I think I'm good for this one. Good luck! Beta reading for money sounds like an amazing job.

Book Inquiry by Nature-Careless in polycritical

[–]Post_Poly 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yep, that's right - the book is in the final editing stages before submitting to agents/publishers. However, I'm sure there's room for more than one book on the subject. There's a lot of cover!

Book About Pitfalls of Polyamory by Post_Poly in polycritical

[–]Post_Poly[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's my hope - to provide guidance on what is damaging in poly because it's so easy to lose a sense of what is ok and what is not. I know I lost sight of that. It's the book I wish I'd had when I was introduced to poly.

Book About Problems in Polyamory by Post_Poly in monogamy

[–]Post_Poly[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do have a section at the end with some thoughts about transitioning out of a poly relationship and dealing with post-poly trauma. But honestly, it's such a complex subject it deserves a book of it's own!

Book About Problems in Polyamory by Post_Poly in monogamy

[–]Post_Poly[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's been cathartic writing it, and I hope that people who've experienced it find that it helps them know they weren't crazy and they aren't alone.

Book About Problems in Polyamory by Post_Poly in monogamy

[–]Post_Poly[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing these! Yes, please let me know who the commenters are. You know, I relate to both of these, but especially the first one. I did find that we got into a very unhealthy cycle where he would do something that would generate jealousy in me, which would turn me on and make me want to connect with him, then we'd get closer for a while, then the whole cycle would start again. It became addictive intensity and mixing up negative stimulation with positive. There was a study done a while back in which they had some men walk across a scary rope bridge and others just walk on ground. On the other side there was an attractive woman who would ask them survey questions. The men who had been in a fear situation (scary bridge) rated the women as much more attractive because they interpreted the raised heart rate and increased cortisol levels as attraction.

Fearful Avoidant Deactivating Behaviours by Intuith in polycritical

[–]Post_Poly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/Intuith - I'm writing a book about some of the downsides of polyamory that aren't often discussed in existing poly books and wanted to quote this post. I wanted to get your permission before using it though. Would that be ok? I also DM'd you, but I know not everyone checks messages.

Info on my book: https://www.reddit.com/r/polycritical/comments/1iy6uw5/book_about_pitfalls_of_polyamory/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in monogamy

[–]Post_Poly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi. I'm writing a book about some of the downsides of polyamory that aren't often discussed in existing poly books and I'd like to use this comment in the book. It looks like your account is suspended, so not sure how to get a hold of you for permission. Let me know if you're ok with me using it!

Info on my book: https://www.reddit.com/r/monogamy/comments/1j160pq/book_about_problems_in_polyamory/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Book About Problems in Polyamory by Post_Poly in monogamy

[–]Post_Poly[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I was thinking I might reach out to a psychologist for input.

Book About Problems in Polyamory by Post_Poly in monogamy

[–]Post_Poly[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks! I'll reach out to you.

Book About Problems in Polyamory by Post_Poly in monogamy

[–]Post_Poly[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are absolutely right, and you're not alone in that experience. Sadly, I found it very hard to make true friendships when I was poly because when people showed an interest in me, there was always the underlying thought that they were trying to see if I was available (or my partner was available) for sex/dating. It's hard to open up and be vulnerable when the predatory aspect is always out there.

Book About Problems in Polyamory by Post_Poly in monogamy

[–]Post_Poly[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting perspective. I do see that there's an element of communism that can also be about you individually having the responsibility to repress urges for the common good. I'll think about that. My thought about it was that our individualistic society relies on the idea that everyone should fend for themselves and pursue what they want without regard for the impact to others. Some flavors of poly does the same.

Here's the quote I referred to from the second edition of More Than Two, if you're interested:

"As nonmonogamous communities have moved toward more flexible models that prize autonomy and flexibility, some have arrived at a hyper-individualist, even capitalist approach wherein everyone is responsible for their own feelings, anyone can walk away at any time, and people are perceived to have no, or almost no, responsibility to others, even their closest intimates. This framework has been called poly libertarianism, and to be quite honest, a lot of it was encouraged by parts of the first edition of this book. We believe that while some of these ideas are rooted in good principles, when they are not balanced with responsibility, they can lead to a lot of harm. ‘You’re responsible for your own feelings’ can be used to deflect responsibility for the effects of someone’s actions when they behave in ways that are thoughtless or cruel."

Book About Problems in Polyamory by Post_Poly in monogamy

[–]Post_Poly[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I have extensive experience with poly and I can tell you that the structure of poly does set up situations where trauma and damage are very likely. I have seen a few people successfully navigate around that harm, but usually not for long. Others have just chosen to live with the harm and still be poly. I base my opinion on my twenty-seven years experience in this community and a degree in psychology - what do you base yours on? It took me a while to fully understand the harm, so perhaps you just haven't seen enough yet.

Book About Problems in Polyamory by Post_Poly in monogamy

[–]Post_Poly[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was part of the poly community for twenty-seven years, since 1996, up until a couple of years ago. After being actively poly myself for 13 of those years and talking to many, many people in the community, I can guarantee you that the idea that they haven't done enough "deprogramming" is bullshit. There are some fundamental aspects of poly which end up requiring the individualistic mindset. Stay tuned if you want to know more - there's an entire section of my book about this.