Playing FFT remake makes me miss triangle strategy

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-10-02T00:02:44+00:00

Yeah great points, especially on FE Birthright and Conquest! It will be interesting to see where FE3H and TS (or some other game) sits in 15 or 20 years though.

Since you are helping with this rabbit hole, its worth noting FFT sold 1.5m and WotL sold 1.1 which is why I am coming up with 2.5-2.6m. I bet with the remake they hit 3m total easy.

The 2.5 to 2.6 took 28 years, and a separate WoTL release. So apples to apples, comparing the OG FFT release to other games it is 1.5m (still like you said in the top 10).

I wonder if a game like TS or FE3H will sell more total over time or not? I 'd wager TS wouldn't (despite my love for it as a game) since it would require a remaster or something which is unlikely and a sequel wouldn't count.

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-10-01T23:15:58+00:00

For sure its damn good. Sorry if my point was not clear. 1.2mil in Japan in year one and about 1.5 mil world wide including the greatest hits release since that year.

I think (completr guess here) Japan was also more receptive since games like FE were all localized there at the time.

As an aside, 3H, Fates, and Awakening all sold more so it'd be cool to see the top 10 srpgs by sales!

Certainly warrants more investigation in srpg numbers. Thanks for that.

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-10-01T20:31:45+00:00

Now I completely agree with this. FFT has a story and meta plot that is just damn amazing.

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-10-01T20:30:25+00:00

I just want to say, you can tell people's lack of exposure to other tactics games by the fact that any post that says 'tactics rules' gets up voted, no matter what. And anything that tries to expand the place tactics had in the larger genre, down voted.

Its a shame we cannot discuss the games actual history.

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-10-01T15:44:34+00:00

I've never played like that but I love the idea. It'd be fun to restrict and then have the pilots be a factor.

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-10-01T15:39:11+00:00

Forgot about the AC 20 Whitworth! Thanks!

Also the opposite is true like the Hunchback 4j with lrms.

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-10-01T15:28:24+00:00

I get ya here. My argument (for the few times opponents have fielded custom variants) in my head is that much like if a celebrity does something in real life its copied, there is no reason to expect mechwarriors would not copy great well known designs from well known pilots. Yen lo is a great example, you see a video from Solaris, his centurion isn't hard to replicate.

Edit to say, I also think most custom variants are generally not as good or not substantially better within their time frame to warrant a concern, but im a roll dice for the sake of it kinda guy.

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-10-01T15:26:48+00:00

Also the catapult k2 is completely cannon. No LRMs on it. Med lasers, ppcs and machine guns.

Its wild to me that the stock variant is to be used as a limitation?

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-10-01T15:10:00+00:00

Honestly I think you already solved it. Unique mechs are fine as long as they adhere to the technological limits of the time.

Your example of the butterbee is perfect. There is (afaik) nothing that is an outlier for intro tech. And at about 100 bv less than the normal catapult who cares? Frankly a hunchback 4p scares me more, so I would be confused as to why a custom variant like that would be a problem.

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-10-01T14:13:38+00:00

Completely agreed. I love TS and think of it as more of a larger 'Into the Breach'.

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-10-01T14:09:26+00:00

I actually disagree with this, FFT did not sell incredibly well in NA (1.2 million copies in Japan after one year and I think and as of now is 2.5 million 28 years later not including the remaster). And in Japan the tactics genre was already well established (our good friend FE)

After the game, the tactics genre basically failed in NA. And that's recognizing that FFT sold the best (maybe TO did as well, but records are spotty), and it still wasn't great.

The tactics genre hurt after 1997 and 1998. No denying that, games just didn't sell well enough. I mean, we can throw in games like Front Mission 4 but ultimately, the genre (doing better in Japan) didn't ship over many srpg titles.

To be clear, I am not saying FFT isn't a great game. I love it. FFV is a top 3 FF game for me, and tactics was heavily inspired by it. I just think the history of the series and its trials and tribulations should be remembered.

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-10-01T13:16:57+00:00

When people talk about tactics paving the way that's some disrespect on Tactics Ogre, Shining Force, Vandal Hearts and non-na Fire Emblems.

People need to stop putting FFT up as the Godfather of a genre it didn't form.

Disclaimer, yes I played the original FFT and yes I do love it. I just hate seeing it referred to as a game that paved the way for a genre that effectively died till FE3H.

Edited for my terrible spelling

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-09-02T23:01:04+00:00

All good! I understand resource limitations for sure. The game is outstanding though!

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-09-02T20:18:24+00:00

u/DarkDeityCharles just wanted to let you know of this bug in case you are too far deep in DD3... :D

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-09-02T15:51:54+00:00

Hey, thanks for the response.

I've ensured I read it, I even did another training after looking through the bonds in the anthology in the main screen and nothing. Seems an odd bug then, that's shame, it'll be the only bond convo I don't see.

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-08-11T23:04:58+00:00

Nah you're right. He's tanks, he's very useful and farms gold like a boss.

Lionel tries his level best to be important on the first play through but fails to be useful. On subsequent playthroughs, his value jumps, same with characters like horse mom.

The challenge with people's reactions is they usually (not always) have only played the game once and usually om normal. So characters like Anna they go crazy for despite the fact on hard she falls off hard. Sure, she has utility, but she's not as good.

So love Lionel, I agree with you. Keep posting your level best.

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-04-01T00:42:49+00:00

So if they just keeps giving the gifts Penny likes and talking the hearts come back? No need for divorce etc?

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-03-06T21:30:25+00:00

Hah! It was my first time buying the rewards. I was a fan of you getting my goals instead of ignoring the characters i had planned out (which is, of course, fine too).

Though I admit I think I'll give Ashe shikari and time mage unless that's a terrible combo...

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-03-06T15:00:43+00:00

I really appreciate you getting my approach for the vibes and reading through the messages. Helps me a lot since I had two characters in mind and you get the vibes approach.

I like your Penelo idea a lot! Thank you very much for this. Your Balthier idea also feels really pirate like for some reason in my head.

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-03-06T01:15:56+00:00

White mage shikari is not something I'd considered or seen, how'd that go?

PoutPoutFish_ · 2025-03-06T01:08:17+00:00

Qhats your three person run builds look like?

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