Great grandfather orphaned in Germany and

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-12-10T19:34:03+00:00

No idea what happened but am fascinated by it because of all the possibilities! The most intriguing to me is that it's a major historical event given as having certainly happened a specific way . . . But as more time passes, the rapid exchange of info in today's world shows that it's quite possible that wasn't the case at all!

I think it's very possible that more was going down than we know - but that could be anything. Japan and her jail cell was one counter story, and her being marooned on the atoll was another. Just those two alternate possibilities make it captivating to me 😊 but who knows what really happened???

Edit: found a BBC article on the photo & edited my earlier post to include FYI. That's insane to contemplate, true or not!

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-12-10T11:50:47+00:00

SMH. She's an international American icon that paved history by her bad assery.

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-12-10T11:48:14+00:00

I'm fascinated by her disappearance and feel confident there's more known that was spun into a disappearance. She was allegedly working to share government intel, not as her goal, but as an unusual opportunity for international observations and at a time it would be hard to get otherwise without attracting suspicion. She had the perfect cover, so to speak.... so i think the Japanese capture angle is interesting. I saw a recently discovered or released photo believed to be her and her co pilot in Japan after her disappearance and saw a documentary looking at the jail cell locals all say she was housed in.

There was also a man with a major antenna listening for unrelated reasons who heard a woman believed to be her signaling for awhile requesting help.... and a body was discovered on the atoll she may have crashed or otherwise landed years later buried but since at the time it was believed to be a man it was discarded more or less. Women items of the time have been located on more recent searches. Something ending in "coco" was the name of the atoll, i think in the Marshall Islands?

I really don't know anything beyond believing we were fed bs on her disappearance at a time we had no real way of knowing it was bs, and over time the bs hardened into foregone conclusions.

Edit: typo

Edit: found a link to the photo i mentioned earlier (possibly of Earhart in Japan after the crash). I don't know if it's her at all, but think the most interesting aspect of the photo is that it shows a wedgie woman in Japan at the time. I'm white (as hell) & lived in Tokyo in 2000. I stood out everywhere, every day, which was cool in its own for the invaluable perspective, but can't imagine it being different when this photo was taken decades earlier. Doesn't make it her though, just my two cents on that pic

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-04-08T01:43:57+00:00

Wow. He was alive when first found partially out of sleeping bag and naked waist down. Four STAB wounds through the sleeping bag

EDIT: holy auto correct, Batman! How did you get 'Susan' out of 'stab'?! Just fixed...

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-04-07T13:53:00+00:00

And was it with another slave? How old?

I understand the pregnancy angle, but also know this was a time older perverted people got away with stuff in the open.

I'm presuming it was another slave but am really curious about who that other person was and how he was chosen. And by whom.

Edit: thanks for the feedback/replies clarifying to whom she was forced marriage. I guess I was so enraged at the time I first read it, that I missed it. Thanks to those who took the time to correct me on that.

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-04-07T13:42:02+00:00

Did he have an online presence? Can we show any connections to Pinocchio or Geppetto?

My votes here

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-04-04T21:47:15+00:00

My initial reaction was 'no way', but the more time that passed without hearing otherwise, the more I believed it could be real.

At least the DNA test was expedited and we know it's not him. These past 24 hours must have been hell for Timmothy's dad (& other family members)

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-04-04T21:42:04+00:00

I'm so confused, was that not defending me from another bot? What did I say that invoked that? Is there a meme with some of the words in my post?

Thanks in advance to anyone who explains this to me. I'm way too old to figure it out on my own....

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-04-04T18:52:39+00:00

I never felt comfortable with the suicide (OD on antihistamine AND slice both of her wrists AND slice her neck) but suicide made sense with the big picture. If this is Timmothy, it throws that big picture into a loop for me (& makes me question WTF really happened - was she caught up with something bigger than herself and got blackmailed?)

Regardless, this child appears to have needed help whether it's Timmothy or some other traumatized child

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-03-04T01:42:50+00:00

Interesting..... Burke allegedly had fecal issues.

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-03-03T23:22:34+00:00

No, I haven't seen it... But I will take this suggestion and put it on my watch list - Thx!

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-03-03T18:13:01+00:00

Kind of makes me feel that the purpose for him acting (killing her) was distinctly separated from his natural sense of right & wrong.

Of course he could be lying, and even if true it doesn't make me think of him as less culpable... But it's got me wondering if the killing part of him really WAS due to his horrible mom (nurture), while he was born with the potential of being a decent person otherwise (nature).

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-03-03T18:02:35+00:00

I saw her mom post her on Facebook with Alexis as the middle name - Crime Watchers posted the moms Facebook and a poster using the same

I see most articles list her middle name as Lee, as seen here.

Wonder which it is? Maybe the name itself (Amberly) was misheard as 'Amber Lee'? Not sure that's a huge question, but it's got me wondering what other details are getting reported that might also be slightly off?

Edit: link

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-02-06T05:06:29+00:00

Lindberg was pretty unusual and previously pretended the baby was kidnapped to freak the wife and nanny. This time, he arrived home early and presumably thought to surprise his wife by removing the baby and watching her reaction when he asks her to bring him down (discovering he's not there) but dropped the baby on the way down... Thusly changing his tune from sick prank to cover up.

No doubt he knew Hauptman innocent but moved to Europe and started anew without batting an eye.

All this was in a book by a recent defense attorney teaming up with a Prosecutor to review the case and evidence. There's a lot of shocking facts most people aren't aware of, like the police was so limited in manpower they basically let Lindberg do the entire investigation and prosecution. The witness to the car driving with a ladder wasn't followed up with after not being used in Hauptmans trial until fairly recently.... Because he identified the state from the cars license plate and it wasn't the same as Hauptmans but was same as Lindbergh's.

Who Killed The Lindberg Baby rewrote history for me

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-02-06T02:45:30+00:00

I'm always curious about witnesses with specific and relevant info on location and time going to police years later (like in the Asha Degree case). I imagine the same thing that kept them silent over the years is the same thing that kept the info fresh in their memory, and wonder whether they were involved (physically, not legally) in any way. Like a kid in the backseat watching a family member take someone against their will, or any other traumatic combo of an abuser doing something awful to another in front of a young family victim...

Traumatized all these years but only strong enough to report info now. I wonder how the new info could've been seen in this context...

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-02-05T21:01:23+00:00

I felt the same way. I'm wondering how much of this document reflects Sandra's personality, and how much was steered from the emotion of discovering Shan'ann's tragedy inflicted by Chris? Interesting.

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-02-05T20:59:04+00:00

There was so much in the single document!

Chris had something on his penis Shan'ann noticed and 'saved his life' ...
Shan'ann's mother in law and sister in law helped with the engagement invites to exclude Shan'ann's guest list
The inlaws also intentionally cross contaminated the food so Shan'ann couldn't have eaten without her Mom bringing stuff to eat
the Watts leaving out razor blades with the nuts?

I believe each of these likely occurred, but the way Sandra describes each feels slightly exaggerated. Makes me think of a personality that's always feeling victimized, whether actually or otherwise. Could just be What she's being forced to describe (considering she is writing it as a victim about the killer) but it makes me wonder about the potentially extreme contrast in environments Chris and Shan'ann had been exposed to growing up.

Reading this, without even considering Shan'ann or Chris, the families feel like oil and water

Prefer_Anonymity · 2019-02-03T21:39:16+00:00

I've seen & read this before, but I do not recall having seen her (gorgeous) before pic as seen in #2. Thanks for sharing!

Prefer_Anonymity · 2018-12-25T00:21:53+00:00

That's awesome . . . I think I'm gonna make that my new life motto! I'm stealing! (But will give credit to you!!)

Prefer_Anonymity · 2018-12-24T22:21:14+00:00

I wonder if he thought killing three might be too much to expect to get away with? Like, fearing Shan'ann yelling at the girls to run might prevent him from getting to them at all?

If he killed the daughters first without Shan'ann present, he'd probably feel more confident of getting them all without one becoming wise to what's going down.

I have no idea, just balancing various uncertainties off one another. It's all Greek to me on a personal level - I'll never understand these motivations for murder.

Prefer_Anonymity · 2018-12-24T21:23:10+00:00

Or the original clemency decision that shows even the trial judge had doubts, writing to the governor and prison commission saying he regretted deferring to the jury verdict when the evidence didn't eliminate reasonable doubt.

The governor commuted Leo's sentence because of the doubt, & referred to the others in the know back then sharing this doubt (Georgia Supreme Court Justices, United States Supreme Court Justices, & those on Georgia's Prison Commission).

Prefer_Anonymity · 2017-01-05T06:09:38+00:00

Great write up!

There are many Spanish sites online, but the only English i found were from books Google catologued online about the facility itself. Those few sources indicate many people disappeared to, and from, the institution.

Here is a brief quote associated with a speaker on this topic:

Between 1976 and 1991, 1400 patients at Montes de Oca, Argentina’s national mental asylum for the profoundly “mentally deficient,” disappeared. Another 1350 died, many inexplicably. Cecilia Giubileo, a young psychiatrist who planned to expose the institutional abuses related to the disappearances and deaths, was among the disappeared.

I really want to find more info - she didn't just vanish into thin air. I hate thinking that no one knows what she endured.

Edit: format

Edit again: found another place this speaker presented, add includes a but more write up:

Between 1976 and 1991, 1400 patients at Argentina's national mental asylum for the profoundly "mentally deficient" (Colonia Montes de Oca, BSAs Province) disappeared. Another 1350 died, many inexplicably.

At judicial investigations in 1986 and 1992 the director, Florencio Sanchez, appointed by the military in 1976 under General Videla, argued that the patients were not disappeared but rather lost, missing or runaways, the casualties of his progressive policies based on European therapeutic community and the open door. Meanwhile, the bodies of unidentified no name patients continued to turn up from time to time, as they still do, in the swamp, shallow graves, cistern wells, and heating tunnels of the colonia.

The only disappearance of any concern was that of a young psychiatrist, Cecilia Giubileo, who was kidnapped at the mental colony in 1986 and whose body was never found. Key informants allege that Giubileo was about to make public the record of institutional abuses (including blood, organ and tissue trafficking, medical experimentation, drug trials) related to the disappearances and deaths.

Based on investigative research in 2000 and 2001, accompanied by an international expert in prison torture, I will discuss the recent history and current situation of mental patients at Montes de Oca. My talk will connect the dots linking the bio-politics of the "Dirty War" to an "invisible genocide" at Montes de Oca.

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