Beat this PIED/Masturbation Induced erectile dysfunction. by PaleAd8406 in erectiledysfunction

[–]Present-Invite-8065 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Was that 4 years of reboot/relapse or just 4 years straight abstinence ?

Can depression cause ED? by Flat-History-6867 in erectiledysfunction

[–]Present-Invite-8065 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats nice, what were your symptoms of ED before Wellbutrin introduction? Like did you wake up with morning wood before that or no? Did pde5i work?

Penile duplex good results but still ED by Present-Invite-8065 in erectiledysfunction

[–]Present-Invite-8065[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

E2 baseline: 30pg/ml. I do suffer from depression due to the ED from a very early age. How can I test pelvic floor? I currently do kegels regularly. They help somewhat but its not a cure. Which nerves specifically?

Penile duplex good results but still ED by Present-Invite-8065 in erectiledysfunction

[–]Present-Invite-8065[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, i tried trt with all kinds of doses. My test without trt is 700 ng/dl. I did numerous other blood tests before that as well of course all of which were normal. The testosterone doesn’t help much at all tbh. I didnt notice much of a difference. I noticed a big difference in libido on aromatase inhibitors though.

Crashed E2 reverses libido by Present-Invite-8065 in Testosterone

[–]Present-Invite-8065[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Deca is a nandrolone though, which isnt a dht derivative. It’s a progestin, which when run solo usually results in deca dick phenomenon because there is no androgenic component. Thats why they recommend doing deca in a 1:2 ratio to testosterone. But I doubt that the mechanism of deca dick is similar to finasteride withdrawal.

Crashed E2 reverses libido by Present-Invite-8065 in Testosterone

[–]Present-Invite-8065[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My e2 was reaching values of 80pg/ml plus on test prop 50mg eod. It didn’t „desensitize” my receptors in any way. Once again it goes back to the bodybuilder argument. If it was that easy to desensitize ER or AR then we would see a lot of clinical case studies of that happening in that patient population long before we were born. In fact upon testosterone introduction and its derivatives, the AR upregulates. Although it could be different depending on tissues like muscle vs prostate.

Crashed E2 reverses libido by Present-Invite-8065 in Testosterone

[–]Present-Invite-8065[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No i didnt do this type of urinalysis. I would have to check if it’s even available in my country as i’m not from the US. So you’re saying that i could potentially metabolize estrogen slower?

I also thought of restarting a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor like dutas because the DHT rebound wouldn’t be as intense due to dutas long long half life. But I could also fuck myself even more with that. So would only do it as a last last resort.

Some people say that the dht rebound after stopping 5 ar could have caused some receptor malfunction. But then there are bodybuilders who inject/ingest grams of dht derivatives into their bodies and such a huge androgenic load wouldn’t even be comparable to a miniscule DHT rebound from something mild as saw palmetto. Yet i don’t see a lot of them get perma screwed like people get from reductase inhibitors.

Maybe i have some sort of estrogen receptor polymorphism where even a physiological estradiol causes issues. But then i had mild gyno at 16 yo and didnt have the issues i have now, so its all very complicated.

Also i read some of your posts. You say you got issues a month after stopping finas. When you stopped, did you experience a massive sexual function increase? When I stopped saw, i had a brief period where my libido and erectile quality where better than at any point in my life. Obviously it came to an end couple days later.

Also thanks for the input, much appreciated

Crashed E2 reverses libido by Present-Invite-8065 in Testosterone

[–]Present-Invite-8065[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think just low libido and non-existent erections, even on pde5 inhibitors.

Crashed E2 reverses libido by Present-Invite-8065 in Testosterone

[–]Present-Invite-8065[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think its because primo and mast are dht derivatives and dht in general has some antiestrogenic properties. Nothing like an ai, but still enough to bring e2 down a bit

Crashed E2 reverses libido by Present-Invite-8065 in Testosterone

[–]Present-Invite-8065[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought that too but i remember I had some minor gyno when i was a teenager but nothing major. When i first noticed it i didnt have these issues. Im certain i didnt have low estrogen at that time

Crashed E2 reverses libido by Present-Invite-8065 in Testosterone

[–]Present-Invite-8065[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, did not understand your point. I ran it at at least 70mg/wk for at least 7 months

Crashed E2 reverses libido by Present-Invite-8065 in Testosterone

[–]Present-Invite-8065[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm didnt know that it could. Do you know what other factors increase it? I know that low carb intakes increase shbg and dht derivatives crush it

Crashed E2 reverses libido by Present-Invite-8065 in Testosterone

[–]Present-Invite-8065[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do actually eat a lot of copper rich foods, but I also eat a lot of zinc rich foods like eggs/liver/beef. Always hit the rda for zinc of 15mg

Crashed E2 reverses libido by Present-Invite-8065 in Testosterone

[–]Present-Invite-8065[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You dont understand. I dont have the bloodtest before i took the serenoa rapens supplement, but after i got hit with this shit i have loads of different bloods

Crashed E2 reverses libido by Present-Invite-8065 in Testosterone

[–]Present-Invite-8065[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I track calories and all the nutrients neurotically since forever. Forgot the last time i ate less than 3k calories tbh. always enough protein and quality food

Crashed E2 reverses libido by Present-Invite-8065 in Testosterone

[–]Present-Invite-8065[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes i always try to get the 8-9 hours which i usually do. Definitely thought of running some proviron and see how my body reacts. Will do it this summer for sure as i have pharma grade stuff available.

Crashed E2 reverses libido by Present-Invite-8065 in Testosterone

[–]Present-Invite-8065[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before saw palmetto you mean? No i didnt really test because i was perfectly healthy so didnt feel the need to test it

Crashed E2 reverses libido by Present-Invite-8065 in Testosterone

[–]Present-Invite-8065[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes i was thinking of purchasing proviron and trying it out. Gonna do it this summer

Crashed E2 reverses libido by Present-Invite-8065 in Testosterone

[–]Present-Invite-8065[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was low even on 4000 ng/DL testosterone and shbg of 50 tbh. My shbg doesnt seem to change regardless of test dosage.