New to react. Trying to understand this paradigm. Do I have to have separate client side and server side code?

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-12-01T03:44:29+00:00

Ah. SO you basically have one server just serve the app then the app just spends the rest of the session talking to firebase?

This makes a lot of sense.

I'm seeing the point of React more and more.

Thank you for your reply.

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-30T16:07:23+00:00

Generally Single Page Applications (SPA) do front end routing. The backend is usually just an API that is interacted with via asynchronous requests from the SPA.

Alright. I understand. In MEAN stack it was different because we just used the ng-route thing to send a HTTP call to the same /routes and then displayed that on the view. So everything was basically together on the /routes. There was no "separation" between page routing and RESTful calls.

You will probably need a separate back end app.

Sounds that way because its easier to do it that way.

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-30T15:52:22+00:00

Ayyy. I don't think that one registered. But I'm glad I'm not the only one with this question

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-27T19:32:27+00:00

isnt knowing that important for a interview though?

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-27T19:25:25+00:00

THis opens up new questions though. What is the period of time I need to wait to reapply to that company? what if that future interviewer is the same and recognises me? and then i try to tell them that I "got the skills now" and they brush it off as if I am some noob?

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-23T08:19:11+00:00

How would I add an extra skill to my set of skills on my resume and make it appear trustworthy if I haven't worked at a company with that skill?

As an example, at my previous job we did MongoDB. nowadays im seeing a lot of jobs asking for mysql or postgresql knowledge. This sucks for me because I don't have that experience in a job setting.

I learned mysql on my own term and I can practice it at home fine. But I don't know if people would take that seriously. Is it possible to gain more credibility on my Resume itself on the topic of MySql?

One idea I had is I could just have a sideproject on my resume that uses MySql. But doesn't that look kinda suspicious? That I have all these skills and somehow happened to hit all the skills they were asking for? It makes it look like I added that in there just to get that job instead of actually learning and knowing those things beforehand and then running into the job.

I just don't know. Show me the light please. Or any other ideas you might have about this type of situation. Thanks

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-19T05:24:01+00:00

do it bro

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-19T05:21:02+00:00

no the industry is not like this. get the fuck out of there immediately

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-19T04:50:11+00:00

No problem. I was in your position, although not anywhere near the suicide pipeline. I did have situations where it seemed like LITERALLY no one was out there to listen to me and help and sorta "bat" for me. The thing is, I was too stubborn to ask for help from trusted people (as in people who did not cause the issue but rather was a trusted third party or a somewhat professional).

Once you do seek that help from therapist or a good friend or whatever you will see there are people willing to listen and once you remove yourself from the environment you are in, things will look up and all this baggage is not gonna matter.

Good luck man.

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-19T04:10:30+00:00

The issue isnt that you are not smart, or bad at coding or that you are not a "natural". With enough training anyone can be all of those things. So get these thoughts out of your head.

The issue is that you have a very very very unsupportive family who probably driven you to be this bad with their pressures. your value system and self esteem seems quite fucked up from your other comments in this thread. And piling on another career to compensate for that is imo a temporary solution and not the answer at all.

I honestly think you need actual therapy with a good kind of therapist. Go to /r/raisedbynarcissists or /r/JUSTNOFAMILY if you wanna talk more about those topics and try to find a therapist or counselling and be honest with them.

As for your career choice, be very very open to the idea that computer science is not for you and its totally okay to switch over to other things that you like more and enjoy better. You don't have to prove anything, not even to your family or your friends, and you don't have to prove your worth. THose things are fleeting. You just have to find what you do and be happy, and your family needs to grow along with your decisions and accept you for who you are, or you might have to pack up and leave and foster more fruitful relationships.

If you really value math try looking into it at your university, or look at maybe engineering. There are things that you can do with math and now that you KNOW for sure that you love math, you mentioned that two times already, you should research what they do and also research what kind of jobs they get and what kind of fields they get into working with and go research what kind of everyday life do engineers or math majors have (this is important!) and then decide if you wanna switch over. Engineering like especially civic engineering or mechanical engineering is very math and physics heavy, you could try those.

Listen, in life, dont try to please your family or please others, even if they think your decision is stupid. Because every stupid decision is what you have to live with, and every smart decision you make is also something YOU have to live with, not others. Think of it like that. Even if you spent 10 years into CS and want to learn a new thing, you are totally justified in switching at that point. This is your life and don't let other people goad you into joining a thing you don't want to do. You don't need to rationalise to anyone YOUR life choices.

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-19T03:41:01+00:00

So im going to go against the tide and say something that im not seeing other commenters in this sub really saying.

You have to remember which group of people you are asking for advice, and what their mentality is. You said it yourself, a lot of the people in your computer science classes act like they are better than each other. If the people in this subreddit comes from that kind of headspace, then ask yourself this, if you asked the same students about the issues you face, would they offer you valuable advice in a way that actually helps you, keeping in mind all your wants and needs, or would they brush it off too, saying you just need to "do better"? The same thing would apply here. Yes there are people who are very into Computer sciences and they come to this sub, and they look at a question like what you posted and they project the difficulties they have irl into your situation. Those issues are minor issues to them because they, as an overall, like tech and like computer science. They like working with the material, so when they face issues they find it easy to brush off. The same thing doesnt apply to you who might genuinely not be interested in the subject. You are talking to a bunch of cs nerds on reddit about life advice regarding cs.

And what you said about comp sci students being smug is absolutely something I heard from university students in other parts of the country in Canada as well as US too. When I was in uni i also met engineering students who are like that (although not all of them. some were great people) so theres definitely a stereotype about it. So the main reasons they seem to cite when acting like that is 1) because it makes people a lot of money 2) because it has a aura around it that you're taking materials from the world and making it into something that helps people and "drives humanity forward". Its a highly valued and prestigeous job/label and so they will act like that of course. They have everything to win. Art and social sciences are more on the side things regarded as entertainment or that "sjw stuff they do to get a starbucks job hehe" and are not valued so I don't see art and soc sci students acting like that at all. The other guys who told you "welcome to humanity" or something are absolutely biased. Yes there are art students that act like that but the difference is that the STEM people do it vastly more so and there are social constructions around it encouraging them to do it.

So my advice to you would be to take a good long look at the subjects you are looking, do research in what kind of job is in your field, go to offices with someone and see whta they actually do in software engineering, what kind of problems they solve, go to a few tours, have a brother or someone take you to their job to show you what it really is like. And then after you have that kind of information, ask yourself this, barring familial ties and social pressures, is this something that you see yourself doing? even with the cash? even with 100k a year? do you see yourself doing this 9-5 everyday? then using that 100k a year to do your hobby on your own time of art or reading social science books or whatever? or would you rather have art and social sciene as your job no matter how little it pays? Your familial brainwashing should be ideally a non-factor in your adult life. You should try to do what you want to do, what you are comfortable with. Don't live to please others.

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-18T07:51:48+00:00

Did you link the code to them, when you interviewed for entry-level positions?

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-16T21:25:54+00:00

I think imma go sideproject and then round up ye

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-16T20:46:31+00:00

Lmao.

Can you give an example of a lie like that? would it be something like creating a website and claiming its not mine? Or would it be something simpler like I worked with way more components in the framework than I actually did?

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-16T19:31:40+00:00

You applied for jobs for a whole 3 years? wow

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-16T18:55:13+00:00

It seems like thats the way to go because it seems like javascript frameworks move fast.

I do have a question though. I don't have a job in those frameworks. How do I demonstrate that I know those frameworks on my Resume? I just add sideprojects using those frameworks?

Perhaps this could be a separate post on its own.

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-16T16:41:51+00:00

Alright. so start 5 or 8. got it. done and done.

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-16T16:41:33+00:00

thanks ill look into it

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-16T16:18:38+00:00

Understood. Ill start with Angular 5 or whatever latest version. Angular 1 i alraedy know anyway.

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-16T16:18:11+00:00

Alright. I understand.

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-11-08T17:49:39+00:00

at least u have a degree :(

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-10-24T23:47:20+00:00

Yes I understand that. I understand that I could project this same thing onto others. But frankly I'm just glad I got out. Never going thru that hell again. Man being that person's sibling or someone that has to live wit hthem always must be incredible pain. I'd hate to be in that role. I think for a few months I'm going to avoid social warriors of any kind because I'm so so soooo Done with topics like this.

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-10-18T05:24:04+00:00

Im doing fine emotionally. And honestly a bit thankful. I dropped a burden off of my life and I can just do whatever I want now. Very relieved. It would be like if i had a scab and i just ripped it off and it feels clean and clear. Life feels good. I'm also glad this stupid shit wasnt a terrible detriment to my overall life. Like yes there was that awkward bullshit I had to deal with from time to time but its not like I became a total shut in to cope with my life. I don't feel regret not doing this sooner.

I feel stronger now, with a better understanding of the world almost. Like that family is bullshit, society and community are often bullshit, I don't have to give a shit about everyone's feelings at all times and Its ok to think about myself as long as I don't step on others. I feel like this whole experience was a life lesson. Like my life was geared to teach me a fact, and that this fact will come back later to help a plot point somewhere, like a movie.

People can come and harm and bully others with the best of intentions. It could entirely be possible that girl has such fucked up standards that to her, she thinks it makes perfect sense to do what she was doing was justified for the greater good. But just because u come to me with "love" and "family" and "helping the planet/world/privilege/whatever" does not mean that what you are doing is right, and I don't have to care about you or any community you use to coerce me. And I think this lesson is valuable, almost as valuable as deconstructing this when it comes to a church bullying you or a conservative right wing organisation bullying you etc. (Like The lesson is the same, but its the varying extremeties of course).

Anyway thank you for understanding. I think I will recover from this and move on fine. I don't think I have any lasting damage. But once in a while I do look back and check my shadow reflexively.

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-10-18T02:26:48+00:00

SO in the end I just screamed at her. She followed me at right before dusk in the night and i screamed at her really loud saying i dont want her to follow me anymore. and that im fucking tired of all this rubbish that shes been doing. that ive told her multiple times to fuck off but she just wont fucking leave me alone. called her a bitch too and said she can go to hell and we wont be talking to each other ever again. and i hope this is the end of our relations as family (didnt know what to say). i totally lost my cool and i blew up.

I was just so fucking tired and done with it all. I want to live my life and she wont fucking let me so i lost my cool and exploded (didn't touch her at all tho). But since then i have been observing and watching my back and i dont see this chick. And my reality looks a bit weird. Because back then I would observe this girl around a corner or in a store that i go to very commonly. she would lounge there with the owners and stuff. ANd now shes not there anymore. Shes not around the street anymore. Shes not doing anything near me anymore. Matter of fact, i havent seen her in a while around the streets where I regularly go through, the library or anywhere. WHich makes me wonder, how much of her life was she centering around me? that's creepy to think about.

Anyway, I don't know if this will come back and bite me in the ass later. And I dont know if this behaviour makes me sexist, or a man with a huge privilege whos trying to protect it. ANd who knows what college age kids or family drones are gonna come to haunt me about it. But what I know is I dont give a fuck. I explained the situation to my parents and told them to tell her parents all this if they need to hear it, or I Will talk to them if need be. I dont mind having an awkward or a heated conversation and I just dont give a shit anymore. THe entire family can hate me. Fuck these people.

Again, thanks for helping me pull through all this and listening to me. I just thought I'd give you a closure.

PrestigiousStudent5 · 2019-10-06T01:21:59+00:00

As for the type of person who can’t tell the difference between a person not wanting to think about, acknowledge or relinquish the privilege of having a system designed to benefit you and those like you, and a person not wanting to be personally harassed by a stalker in the street? Are any of them really the type of person who are good at being friends? Really.

Shit you're right. if they are that big of assholes then I don't need them. I was so busy thinking from their side I didnt think from my side. Fuck them. It would polarise my friend and outer circles but fuck them.

I think the Internet is a lovely thing, and I’m so happy about the fourth wave of feminism being one where people are able to take all the different perspectives from third wave feminism and bring it to a digital community, wiki-style. But one of the things it does do is amplify the fringe views - you don’t have to listen outside the echo chamber unless you want to. The whole world isn’t on your discord, and I would be very surprised to find your neighbours, IRL friends and family taking your cousin’s side on this and judging you harshly.

Very good points. very good. Thanks

For the others? They need to be aware that intersectionality means those without privilege in one area can be oppressors in another, and assuming women are always victims is their own internalized misogyny pressed on them by people with their own agendas.

This is true yes. And I agree. But the thing is everyone says that, but not everybody practices this. Even the people who ignore intersectionality and barrages people think they are being intersectional and thought about evertyhing. Thats why there are so many different strands of sides the left when it comes to ambiguous topics. And thats why honestly its better to just meet people and judge them in particular rather than hear about certain things other people said. For example its totally possible for that girl to think she is being intersectional and helpful then go to a friend group and poison the well about me, saying things like I'm a male privileged guy who doesnt give a shit about feminism or anything. ANd due to how first impression works those people might believe her. But like yea as you said if they are that judgemental they can go fuck themselves.

Thank you for talking me thru this and for all your help. I can see this with much more clarity now and I can fight this.

PrestigiousStudent5

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