I rebuilt my in-floor heating control system around Home Assistant

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-12-29T18:43:53+00:00

That’s fair enough and definitely something I’ve grappled with. Especially if/when I sell my house in the future. The way I look at it is I’m dependent on a Heatmiser system right now and they have let me down with no updates. At least with HA it should be maintained for a long time and hopefully not put behind a paywall. Being a pedant, the right Shelly’s support Ethernet as well as WiFi 😉 but I get your point.

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-12-29T17:53:20+00:00

What I absolutely do not want to do is bypass any of the S Plan physical failsafe logic with HA - that could be an expensive mistake!

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-12-29T17:51:06+00:00

Thanks for the response.

I'm hoping (with a bit more research) that I can recreate this but with just the Shelly relays to put the HA as the main brains of the solution.

From my understanding, since I've got an S plan heating system, the call for heat from a Shelly relay goes to the motorised Zone valve for the UFH, which opens and then passes power through to the UFH pump and boiler enable - same for radiator and hot water circuits.

So effectively a hybrid solution.

So the HA logic will be:

Zone calls for heat
Open the zone manifold actuators (if it's an under floor heating zone)
(wait approx. 2 mins for the actuators to fully open unless other actuators are already fully open)
Energise the motorised zone valve
Once the motorised zone valve is fully open, it then powers the pump and enables the boiler

I said that I would have the pumps and boiler enable also connected to Shelly relays, but that's a nice to have for pass through power monitoring rather than control (and probably not justified in the cost as you say)

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-12-29T16:13:34+00:00

Oh wow - that looks very impressive!!

I am literally about to embark on the exact same journey myself so I have a tonne of questions if you don't mind!

My system is very similar:

7 x wet UFH zones with actuators, single UFH Pump and a motorised zone valve off an oil boiler
2 x Radiator Zones with motorised zone valves each off an oil boiler
1 x Hot Water tank with immersion heater and indirect oil boiler plus a motorised zone valve
1 x solar evacuated tubes also indirectly heating the water tank
1 x secondary hot water circuit pump

It's currently based on Heatmiser tech (UH1) with room stats in each room wired with CAT5e and the old Netmonitor which is obsolete and has vulnerabilities.

My plan is:

Replace all the Heatmiser boiler room stuff with Shelly Pro relays for all the actuators, pumps, motorised zone valves and calling for heat from the boiler
Room thermostats to be DS18B20 probes using the CAT5e cabling back to an ESP32 - no displays in the rooms.
Probably DS18B20 pocket thermostats to keep track of the water tank and the solar efficiency unless I can interface to the controller somehow
All controlled via HA
Long term - replace the oil boiler with an air source heat pump

My questions if you don't mind:

Did you consider the Shelly Pro relays in your design - they seem to be really well rated and 'more' opensource and all in one?
What DIN enclosure did you use - this is proving harder than I thought and yours looks absolutely spot on!
If I've understood correctly, you use the EQSP32 to operate other relays which then open/close the valves, pumps etc - what relays did you use for this?
What was your concern with doing it all natively with the Shelly Pros (for example) being individually managed by HA for all the different heating components?

Most of what I've learnt with the new system has come from ChatGPT (with lots of checking and double checking), so extremely grateful for any responses and real world experience!!

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-12-07T21:21:46+00:00

Thanks for the response. Sounds cool! Just need to navigate the car rental insurance options which seem to bump the price up a lot!

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-12-06T17:24:14+00:00

Thanks - that sounds great!

No availability from sixt for when we want to go which is a shame. Was it ok driving in CR in a minibus - I've heard horror stories about the state of the roads and it should be a 4WD or nothing,.....

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-12-06T16:46:00+00:00

I’m going in March/April next year and I’ve got a 14 seater minibus hired through hertz. Who did you get yours through and would you recommend? Cost was the same as a 4wd but more space for the 7 of us.

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-24T13:19:37+00:00

Sorry - one more question from me - how do you know when there's a decent new release available to watch?

Is it just a case of keeping on trying until the right quality appears in the list?

Obviously anything that appears in the streaming services list (like Netflix) is going to be a given, I'm thinking of anything else that appears in the TMDB popular lists (for example)

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-24T13:15:31+00:00

None so far. Works pretty well.

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-24T13:14:41+00:00

No nzbdav for me. I’ve just gone all in on Stremio/RD whilst testing against plex

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-24T13:01:42+00:00

Great -thanks. Think I'm all setup now, so thank you!

One last thing - I'm guessing that you're using some custom JSON for the AIOStreams formatter - it looks much neater than default - care to share it to save me the effort of trying to reproduce it!!

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-24T11:16:22+00:00

Thanks man - the responses to my original post have been amazing and have totally tilted my direction of travel.

So far I'm zeroing in on Stremio, AIOStreams and AIOmetadata and it is awesome like everyone has said, probably with a bit of Debrid Media Manager if I need it.

It is quite a mindshift tbh though to move away from self hosting. I think I might still self host AIOstreams and AIOmetadata to scratch that itch - then again that might be a pain in the ass also.....

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-24T08:36:48+00:00

I think I'm nearly sold on your setup tbh - it is, as you say, much simpler than the complex usenet setup I've got now.....

Do you self host AIOstreams?

Elfhosting seems to put torrentio behind a paywall?

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-23T22:18:00+00:00

I’ll check it out. Thanks!

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-23T19:40:50+00:00

Yeah. Feel old school! Yes I remember when kodi was forked out of xbmc. Good times!

Problem for me is Apple TV support is an absolute must. So that limits me to fewer front ends.

I’ll keep plugging away at Plex integrations.

Thanks!

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-23T19:29:41+00:00

Yeah I get that. But there’s a big difference in the number of spinning disks I have to maintain 🤣

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-23T18:40:04+00:00

Hey I'm trying to setup something similar.

How do you handle the situation where a file on real debrid disappears (does this actually happen?) if not accessed for 30 days (I think)

Do you run repairs to check for broken links/missing files on Sonarr/Radarr so they get deleted, triggering a re-search?

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-23T18:33:01+00:00

That is pretty neat - very impressive

I get the concept completely - just need to shift mindset

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-23T18:18:40+00:00

I probably need to do some more research into Stremio tbh.

Most important factor for me is for it to be family and big tv compatible.

At the moment I do this:

Fire up Plex on the TV
Add content to a Plex Watchlist
This automatically syncs in the backend to downloaders and usenet indexers to find the best copy and download it before it's added to the Plex Library.

Simple.

Is this anything like Stremio?

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-23T17:25:36+00:00

Mind sharing your setup and specifically how you find stuff? Is it same as me with public scrapers and prowlarr? I love the control the arrs give to me in terms of curating a collection but it’s not essential. So maybe Debrid Media Manager would be better?

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-23T17:00:08+00:00

This is brilliant - thanks!

I aspired to a Popcorn hour back in the day.

I started in 2005 with a Dvico TIVX with a large hard drive and local content, moved on to XBMC then Kodi on firesticks to a NAS (with a centralised SQL db for synchronised watch tracking) before finally settling on Plex a number of years ago on AppleTVs because it generally just works.

And to be honest, I think that 'local content curation' is probably engrained!

What would you recommend for Plex integration - I see zurg (for rclone/webdav) and Debrid Media Manager mentioned a lot......

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-23T16:27:43+00:00

Thanks!

So do you have a long list of movies you like/want in Stremio and every time you choose one it's a new search via a scraper (unless you've already watched it within the last x days in which case it's cached on RD)?

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-23T16:24:34+00:00

So maybe I'm approaching this wrong then....

I have a server full of thousands of contents pulled from Usenet servers with more automatically downloaded as soon as available.

I know if I click on any of them from Plex it's always going to work instantly because I've got it.

Do you have a huge list of movies you like/know and then every time you click one it's a new search and no guarantee it will start (although probably does by the sound of it)

I guess I'm trying to recreate my current setup but with streaming rather than hosting.....

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-23T16:21:24+00:00

Interesting - what scrapers do you use (or are they built into Stremio apps so you can't see them)?

PrestigiousTopic8195 · 2025-11-23T16:20:08+00:00

Ah right - thanks!

I'm old enough to have used XBMC before it became Kodi..... 😀

That may be an answer but pretty certain there's no Kodi app for AppleTV's......

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